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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:18 pm 
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Fears over wheelchair taxi scheme £20 fee

WHEELCHAIR users in the Capital are to be hit with a £20 charge for discounted taxi journeys – but the plans have been branded “discrimination”.

They would be charged a membership fee to join the scheme in a move aimed at covering administration costs and generating £180,000 a year for the city.

If approved, the levy would be part of a wider overhaul of taxi subsidies for residents whose mobility is severely impaired.

But angry campaigners said free access to the scheme was crucial and that new fees could force many into poverty and isolation. Bill Scott, 
director of policy at Inclusion Scotland, said: “We do believe that these sorts of changes are discriminatory because they have a disproportionate effect on ­disabled people.

“Disabled people are already facing huge cuts to their ­benefits. Their average income is already falling and if you’re levying charges on what’s left, it means they’re not able to be in the community or go 
shopping because they can’t afford it.”

Edinburgh’s taxi card service currently pays the first £3 of journeys for people who have difficulty transporting 
themselves across the city because of medical or mobility issues, up to a maximum of 104 trips per year.

As well as charging a £20 membership fee, the council wants to remove the cost of this subsidy by including the 
card in its general taxi contract so those using the scheme would get a discount directly from firms.

It is hoped the overhaul will generate a total saving of £800,000 as the city battles to plug a £67 million budget gap.

Campaigners said some of the changes “seemed to make sense” but warned against making vulnerable individuals bear “the cost of inclusion”.

Sebastian Fischer, of Voice of Carers Across Lothian (VOCAL), said: “Our priority should be to remove barriers and further integrate citizens with support needs and mobility problems and their ­carers. A contributory membership fee may be justifiable for users who make significantly more journeys and who do not depend on welfare benefits, but this would require a proper consultation process to allow all stakeholders to assess the impact.”

Florence Garabedian, chief executive of Lothian Centre for Inclusive Living, added: “Targeting cuts to the very services that support [disabled people] to live independently, and to remain members of their ­communities, would just lead to more exclusion and marginalisation, and increase the gap between those who have and who have not.”

Council bosses said they had consulted extensively with users ahead of a final budget decision next month.

A spokeswoman said: “We have already met with Taxi Card users and will continue to involve them in discussions on how the service can be improved should any changes be implemented.”

source: http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/n ... -1-3665567

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:16 pm 
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Fears over wheelchair taxi scheme £20 fee

WHEELCHAIR users in the Capital are to be hit with a £20 charge for discounted taxi journeys – but the plans have been branded “discrimination”.

They would be charged a membership fee to join the scheme in a move aimed at covering administration costs and generating £180,000 a year for the city.

If approved, the levy would be part of a wider overhaul of taxi subsidies for residents whose mobility is severely impaired.

But angry campaigners said free access to the scheme was crucial and that new fees could force many into poverty and isolation. Bill Scott, 
director of policy at Inclusion Scotland, said: “We do believe that these sorts of changes are discriminatory because they have a disproportionate effect on ­disabled people.

“Disabled people are already facing huge cuts to their ­benefits. Their average income is already falling and if you’re levying charges on what’s left, it means they’re not able to be in the community or go 
shopping because they can’t afford it.”

Edinburgh’s taxi card service currently pays the first £3 of journeys for people who have difficulty transporting 
themselves across the city because of medical or mobility issues, up to a maximum of 104 trips per year.

As well as charging a £20 membership fee, the council wants to remove the cost of this subsidy by including the 
card in its general taxi contract so those using the scheme would get a discount directly from firms.

It is hoped the overhaul will generate a total saving of £800,000 as the city battles to plug a £67 million budget gap.

Campaigners said some of the changes “seemed to make sense” but warned against making vulnerable individuals bear “the cost of inclusion”.

Sebastian Fischer, of Voice of Carers Across Lothian (VOCAL), said: “Our priority should be to remove barriers and further integrate citizens with support needs and mobility problems and their ­carers. A contributory membership fee may be justifiable for users who make significantly more journeys and who do not depend on welfare benefits, but this would require a proper consultation process to allow all stakeholders to assess the impact.”

Florence Garabedian, chief executive of Lothian Centre for Inclusive Living, added: “Targeting cuts to the very services that support [disabled people] to live independently, and to remain members of their ­communities, would just lead to more exclusion and marginalisation, and increase the gap between those who have and who have not.”

Council bosses said they had consulted extensively with users ahead of a final budget decision next month.

A spokeswoman said: “We have already met with Taxi Card users and will continue to involve them in discussions on how the service can be improved should any changes be implemented.”

source: http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/n ... -1-3665567



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:41 pm 
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Surely the over all benefit offered by discounted travel will far outweigh the £20.00 membership fee, and also if they are in a Wheelchair they would qualify for the higher rate mobility component worth £56.75 a week on top their other income...and that is exactly what it's there for.

They dont just want equality some people, they want preferentiality.

£20 seems a fair deal to me.

Mind, all that from a council that blew a £Billion on Tram system that no one cared much for and now they go targetting the disabled in a bid to save a £180,000 a year and then expect the private sector to take up the slack..numpties or what?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:04 pm 
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and also if they are in a Wheelchair they would qualify for the higher rate mobility component worth £56.75 a week


For many of them, this money is used to pay for a car which they hardly ever use.
Personal transport for a relative or friend, or an ornament decorating their driveway.
I've even heard of some used as taxis :shock:

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:09 pm 
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bloodnock wrote:
and also if they are in a Wheelchair they would qualify for the higher rate mobility component worth £56.75 a week


For many of them, this money is used to pay for a car which they hardly ever use.
Personal transport for a relative or friend, or an ornament decorating their driveway.
I've even heard of some used as taxis :shock:


We have em here to...the Family motor but not always the family of its owner. :roll:


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:14 pm 
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Mind, all that from a council that blew a £Billion on Tram system that no one cared much for and now they go targetting the disabled in a bid to save a £180,000 a year and then expect the private sector to take up the slack..numpties or what?


To be fair, the current council were left with the trams, courtesy of the former administration.

Anyway, is this any worse than the private sector banks losing trillions of pounds of money they didn't have, then expecting the public purse to pick up the tab? Then targeting the disabled and everyone else to pay for their feckless gambling? :shock:

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This is from a council that want to waste money introducing 20mph zones, totally unnecessarily, all over the city. I suppose once you have a massive hole in your budget who cares how you spend the remaining money in the coffers. What a bunch of idiots that run our council, we did elect them!!! How can they possibly justify this charge. Should the Scottish government step in here?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:45 pm 
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This is from a council that want to waste money introducing 20mph zones, totally unnecessarily, all over the city. I suppose once you have a massive hole in your budget who cares how you spend the remaining money in the coffers. What a bunch of idiots that run our council, we did elect them!!! How can they possibly justify this charge. Should the Scottish government step in here?



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Nahh...they are to busy banning air rifles and whining about fracking...much to busy.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:20 am 
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Gus the majority of our current council are those who fought hard for the trams in the first place, how Andrew Burns current leader is still there beggars belief, we now have Lesley Hinds running Transport, another Jenny Dawe in my opinion, 20 Mph zones an aw that, Labourite thinking at its worst :roll:

The current discount to a W/CH passenger phoning a cab is £3.80, the cabbie gets £3 back from the council, the cabbie puts his meter on to load and on stop to unload, so in a way we do get more for taking a W/CH passenger but it's not much more, not enough for a cabbie to drag to, W/CH jobs can also be a hassle, many jobs are short journeys etc, I can understand the cabbie getting more but can't understand the membership rip off which also passes on any discount to the cabbie meaning the loser isn't the council but the cabbie, any which way to screw the cabbie, that's the agenda of our council.

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