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Thatcher closed the pits. Scargill was the only one to speak the truth during the miners strike when he said that was thatcher's intention.

We now sit on loads of coal and have to import it from Russia and other eastern places, and it's inferior quality to what we could produce. If any of you have tried firing a steam loco, you'll know what I mean.

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correct =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>but aided and abetted by SCABS like Nidge #-o #-o

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Labour closed more pits than the Tories....


sorry



When I was employed by the coal board it was the Tories along with Scargill who is now sitting on a couple of million quid who closed all the pits.

If Scargill took notice of the Notts NUM we would've won the battle within a few months and been back at work within 10 weeks.

He went at it without having a national ballot, us in Notts were out, me personally I was out for 6 months without a ballot, nothing was moving so we decided to head back to work.


you really are a despicable assole Nidge aint yer :evil: :evil: :evil:

Thatcher did in the pits because the miners destroyed Ted Heaths government /////////////////no other reason #-o

Most miners voted with their feet always the best policy fekk ballots its action that wins battles,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,kkkkunt :evil:

So you went and scabbed yer fekking lowlife beyond comprehension someone once described scabs as "a stinking puss filled boil on the face of humanity" which clearly describes YOU SCAB :evil: :twisted: :twisted:

you fail to mention you joined the UDM or the Imprisonment of their Leaders for embezzling the members money "GREATOREX"another cu9t :twisted: :twisted:

And even now after all those years you continue to spout the same neo fascist sh!t by your support of UKIP ffs your a piece of sh!t beyond belief #-o #-o

One of your heroes one Winston Churchill once proposed the selective breeding of humans ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,having read your's and wanna's putrid contribution's for some time just maybe i would agree with him you and yer fekking fellow scabs should have been castrated at birth yer fekking vermin :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

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Any pit is unwelcome, as is any wind turbine, housing development, shopping centre and dont even mention HS2!

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wannabeeahack wrote:
"We live on tons of coal now.......blah blah blah"


Try opening a new pit and listen to the NIMBY's scream, we had trouble getting a fecking chicken farm here with 1 articulated truck a day in/out and the sheds hidden from view....and all them that keep on about the coal reserves can go and dig it out, i still have purple scars on my back from a 48" thick seam and a 400yd coalface.....buy Russian i say!


I have some sympathy with your quote re scars on your back, certainly not a job i would ever have considered . but with modern methods surely ite possible to extract the coal in a workforce friendlier manner :?: :?: :?:

When the heroic striking miners arrived in London we did not believe they earn t so little we Printers earn t more on a Saturday NIGHT THAN THEY DID IN week . so clearly you were somewhat lacking in militancy #-o #-o #-o

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Just before the First World War the mines employed more than 1 million men in 3,000 pits producing 300 million tonnes of coal annually.

By the time the industry was nationalised in 1947 700,000 men were producing just 200 million tonnes a year. To improve this situation, in 1950, the first Plan for Coal pumped £520 million into the industry to boost production to 240 million tonnes a year.

This target was never met. In 1956, the record year for post war coal production, 228 million tonnes were produced, too little to meet demand, and 17 million tonnes had to be imported. Oil, a cheaper energy source, was growing in importance, British Rail ditching coal powered steam for oil driven electricity, for example.

Jobs were lost in numbers that dwarfed anything under Thatcher. 264 pits closed between 1957 and 1963. 346,000 miners left the industry between 1963 and 1968. In 1967 alone there were 12,900 forced redundancies. Under Harold Wilson one pit closed every week.

1969 was the last year when coal accounted for more than half of Britain’s energy consumption. By 1970, when the Conservatives were elected, there were just 300 pits left – a fall of two thirds in 25 years.

By 1974 coal accounted for less than one third of energy consumption in Britain. Wilson’s incoming Labour government published a new Plan for Coal which predicted an increase in production from 110 million tonnes to 135 million tonnes a year by 1985. This was never achieved.


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trotskys twin wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
"We live on tons of coal now.......blah blah blah"


Try opening a new pit and listen to the NIMBY's scream, we had trouble getting a fecking chicken farm here with 1 articulated truck a day in/out and the sheds hidden from view....and all them that keep on about the coal reserves can go and dig it out, i still have purple scars on my back from a 48" thick seam and a 400yd coalface.....buy Russian i say!


I have some sympathy with your quote re scars on your back, certainly not a job i would ever have considered . but with modern methods surely ite possible to extract the coal in a workforce friendlier manner :?: :?: :?:

When the heroic striking miners arrived in London we did not believe they earn t so little we Printers earn t more on a Saturday NIGHT THAN THEY DID IN week . so clearly you were somewhat lacking in militancy #-o #-o #-o



Face workers were earning a thousand pounds a week 30 yrs ago.


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Lets call it a truce and place the blame equally on the miners (who walked out with no national strike), the unions (who called a strile with only 1 reagional vote) and the government who, in all fairness, were duly elected by the voters (the only vote in this matter actually) and no government can accept anarchy instigated by the likes of Comrades Scargill and McGahey, clones of these two also broke the car industry, the steel works and the railways.....well done chaps

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mancityfan wrote:
trotskys twin wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
"We live on tons of coal now.......blah blah blah"


Try opening a new pit and listen to the NIMBY's scream, we had trouble getting a fecking chicken farm here with 1 articulated truck a day in/out and the sheds hidden from view....and all them that keep on about the coal reserves can go and dig it out, i still have purple scars on my back from a 48" thick seam and a 400yd coalface.....buy Russian i say!


I have some sympathy with your quote re scars on your back, certainly not a job i would ever have considered . but with modern methods surely ite possible to extract the coal in a workforce friendlier manner :?: :?: :?:

When the heroic striking miners arrived in London we did not believe they earn t so little we Printers earn t more on a Saturday NIGHT THAN THEY DID IN week . so clearly you were somewhat lacking in militancy #-o #-o #-o



Face workers were earning a thousand pounds a week 30 yrs ago.


Borrocks were they, I was there when the NPLA came in...

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 Post subject: Re: Nigel
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wannabeeahack wrote:
Lets call it a truce and place the blame equally on the miners (who walked out with no national strike), the unions (who called a strile with only 1 reagional vote) and the government who, in all fairness, were duly elected by the voters (the only vote in this matter actually) and no government can accept anarchy instigated by the likes of Comrades Scargill and McGahey, clones of these two also broke the car industry, the steel works and the railways.....well done chaps


Thatcher owed her most uncertain victory in large part to the folly and the strangely blinkered obstinacy of Arthur Scargill. Proof of his almost pathological aversion to inconvenient fact is his remarkable failure, to this very day, to acknowledge that he lost the strike; he lives in isolation, estranged from almost all his friends and family, in a limbo of denial.

The miners' total defeat, and particularly their unnecessary humiliation, was due in large part to Scargill's intransigence at the time, and to the failure of any of his close colleagues, of the TUC and of the Labour leader Neil Kinnock, to stand up to him and make him accept any of the reasonable compromises offered by a nervous government. Other trades unionists recognised this, or came to recognise it, at the time. The electricians' union leader Eric Hammond, for instance, borrowing the phrase used of the troops in World War I, described the miners as "lions led by donkeys".

The result was the destruction not just of the miners' unions, but of trades unionism in general in this country. Almost overnight the mighty union leaders turned from household names into nonentities, unions themselves became an irrelevance with a collapsing membership and they have remained so to this day.


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trotskys twin wrote:
roythebus wrote:
Thatcher closed the pits. Scargill was the only one to speak the truth during the miners strike when he said that was thatcher's intention.

We now sit on loads of coal and have to import it from Russia and other eastern places, and it's inferior quality to what we could produce. If any of you have tried firing a steam loco, you'll know what I mean.

"Peep" said Thomas.


correct =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>but aided and abetted by SCABS like Nidge #-o #-o


I wonder how many people now remember that Arthur Scargill, shamefully, never called a national ballot. That is because he would almost certainly have lost it.

I wonder how many people are aware that the NCB offered very generous settlements at various stages.At the beginning of the strike the energy secretary Peter Walker offered a redundancy package that was hugely generous by contemporary standards. In July the NCB offered Scargill what the engineers' leader John Lyons called the nearest thing to victory that any trade leader can ever expect – "95 per cent of what they are after". But Arthur was after something else, and pressed on, to the very bitter end.


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Mant folk overlook the fact a pit has a finite life span, the easy (cheap) coal comes out 1st, in our pits case that was in the mid 1850's!

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Face workers were earning a thousand pounds a week 30 yrs ago.


Step away from the crack pipe, PLA was something like £33 per shift plus bonus, making a face worker in the region of £350-£400 a week depending on bonus.


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were mines moth balled at all

could we re open them that are worth re opening cheaper and easier than a totalnew one or is that the problem thay had all run there course.

real shame what went on.


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 Post subject: Re: Nigel
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tangarinearmy wrote:
were mines moth balled at all

could we re open them that are worth re opening cheaper and easier than a totalnew one or is that the problem thay had all run there course.

real shame what went on.



Yeah there's a few mothballed round here, there's a few in Yorkshire they can be opened within 4 months.


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mancityfan wrote:

I wonder how many people now remember that Arthur Scargill, shamefully, never called a national ballot. That is because he would almost certainly have lost it.

I wonder how many people are aware that the NCB offered very generous settlements at various stages.At the beginning of the strike the energy secretary Peter Walker offered a redundancy package that was hugely generous by contemporary standards. In July the NCB offered Scargill what the engineers' leader John Lyons called the nearest thing to victory that any trade leader can ever expect – "95 per cent of what they are after". But Arthur was after something else, and pressed on, to the very bitter end.



I said only a few weeks into the strike when I met Scargill at Orgreave coking plant that he'd lost the plot.


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