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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:30 pm 
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its an ar*e covering exercize

Oh yes.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:59 pm 
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And these "signs of abuse". Surely should be recognised by the parent, the teacher, the social worker, the police officer, all of the above, professionals in their field, if a social worker, ( with a degree, and years of training,)fail to spot abuse, what chance has the average taxi driver got after a one day lecture? If I had wanted to be a social worker, or a cop, or a teacher, I would have applied for the job.


You are assuming that the child is already "in the system". Not all abused kids are "in the system". Many are abused by members of their own family and do not know that the treatment they are getting is wrong.
Ask yourselves this question. When you were growing up and were under 16, did you ever engage in any activity with another under 16 year old that you found enjoyable? Follow this with what you would now think if it were a 30 or 40 something adult doing exactly what you did as a teenager. Would you consider this to be any different?



The only thing I am assuming is that if my council decide I should go on a course, I will have to give up my time, AND pay for the privilege.

But if Toots, and others, think that tens of thousands of taxi and PH drivers attending an awareness course "might" just save one child from abuse, and therefore be "worth it" I have a further high and mighty, pious suggestion to make.

I propose that all taxi and PH vehicles be made wheelchair accessible forthwith. If that helps just one wheelchair user to get around, it will, after all, be "worth it".

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:07 pm 
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I wonder once we've all been trained as kiddiefiddlerhunters - wannabe Stinson Hunter's so to speak - if the authorities will take our wild tales of colleagues illegally plying for hire and not complying with licensing requirements more seriously?

thought not.

I find this entire thing totally outrageous - and the only reason they are picking on licensed drivers is that we're basically the only ones they actually have any control over.

we should add ice cream van drivers to the list;

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/n ... -1-3226217

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... m-man.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/4241706.stm

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:21 pm 
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“Taxi drivers have an important role to play as the ‘eyes and ears’ of the community.”



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:55 pm 
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I agree with all that has been written by Jimbo and Cabby John and Gus.

Just google 'teacher has affair with pupil' or 'Little Teds Plymouth'......these f*ckers are far more prolific sex offenders and abusers of childrens than taxi drivers.

I think part of every council doesn't want to think that such happenings at schools are possible - teachers and nursery assistants are positions of trust and in the general scheme of things its the taxi driver who is looked upon as a piece of sh*t in the hierarchy of occupations.


It seems to me that you think it's an exercise in catching taxi drivers as abusers. You should try reading what they said instead skimming and drawing a paranoid conclusion ffs

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:02 pm 
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any children that I have ever picked up have ALWAYS been with an adult


Yeah that's as it should be, unless of course the adult is the abuser. Personally I don't see the harm in the proposed 'session' and as I said if it helps one child then that's enough for me. Finger pointing has never been my game you can't change the past you can only hope the future is better, it probably won't be but I'd like to make an effort, you of course can sit there with the opinion that you never created the problem so it's not yours to help fix and that's fine with me too. BTW I don't have bad days :wink:

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:44 pm 
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any children that I have ever picked up have ALWAYS been with an adult

Of course they have. Do you have a sign in your car stating no passengers under 18 allowed unless accompanied by an adult? Do passengers who appear to be under 25 have to produce proof of age before you let them in. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:52 pm 
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It seems to me that you think it's an exercise in catching taxi drivers as abusers. You should try reading what they said instead skimming and drawing a paranoid conclusion ffs


it seems to me your all innocent

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:09 pm 
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any children that I have ever picked up have ALWAYS been with an adult

Of course they have. Do you have a sign in your car stating no passengers under 18 allowed unless accompanied by an adult? Do passengers who appear to be under 25 have to produce proof of age before you let them in. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:




Anyone who is 16 years of age and up is classified as above child age, absolutely shocking that you think that people between the age of 18 to 25 might have to give proof of age #-o .

I drive a cab.......I do not run a club or a pub :D

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:36 pm 
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Cabby John 1 wrote:
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any children that I have ever picked up have ALWAYS been with an adult

Of course they have. Do you have a sign in your car stating no passengers under 18 allowed unless accompanied by an adult? Do passengers who appear to be under 25 have to produce proof of age before you let them in. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:




Anyone who is 16 years of age and up is classified as above child age, absolutely shocking that you think that people between the age of 18 to 25 might have to give proof of age #-o .

I drive a cab.......I do not run a club or a pub :D

I said "appear to be". As we all know some young ladies who are under 16 years of age can appear to be much older, so without proof of age, how do you know that you haven't carried a 14 year old without an adult?

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I said "appear to be". As we all know some young ladies who are under 16 years of age can appear to be much older, so without proof of age, how do you know that you haven't carried a 14 year old without an adult?



Hmmm not quite! You said.....
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appear to be under 25




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Of course they have. Do you have a sign in your car stating no passengers under 18 allowed unless accompanied by an adult? Do passengers who appear to be under 25 have to produce proof of age before you let them in.


Okay you are right re young women dressed up to the nines. Having said that going on some course is not going to help you/I in spotting the fraud. If I do spot someone dressed up like an adult (and that is what you are alluding to) what am I supposed to do, as half of Cardiff on a Sat/Frid night is getting stuck into one another. What this course would be ( I assume) is something on the lines of spotting the near obvious signs. Regarding your illustrations then I would say that you are on the wrong track.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:56 am 
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I wonder if the training and awareness program in 2015 will be the same as the one in 2013?

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/loc ... ed-6285508

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I wonder if the training and awareness program in 2015 will be the same as the one in 2013?

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/loc ... ed-6285508


If it is, what's your point?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:31 am 
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I wonder if the training and awareness program in 2015 will be the same as the one in 2013?

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/loc ... ed-6285508


If it is, what's your point?


they are running these courses on a regular basis ?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:35 am 
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I wonder if the training and awareness program in 2015 will be the same as the one in 2013?

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/loc ... ed-6285508


If it is, what's your point?


they are running these courses on a regular basis ?


That's a different type of course. Perhaps if they had put serious thought into these courses they could knock out just the one :wink:

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