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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:11 pm 
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That's a different type of course. Perhaps if they had put serious thought into these courses they could knock out just the one :wink:

Will not happen, why charge once when you can charge many times?

Only Undertakers aim to deal with a client once.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:45 pm 
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any children that I have ever picked up have ALWAYS been with an adult


BTW I don't have bad days :wink:


Phew I would hate to be around when you do :roll: it must be like Armageddon :) :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:48 pm 
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any children that I have ever picked up have ALWAYS been with an adult


BTW I don't have bad days :wink:


Phew I would hate to be around when you do :roll: it must be like Armageddon :) :wink:


I haven't a clue because as I said I don't have bad days, I have Ok days and better days :lol: It seems tho you may be referring to my temper which is the type that explodes but is very, very short lived and I never bare a grudge and I often wonder why people are still sulking after the event. That said I'm still wondering why taxi drivers feel like they are "being treated like criminals over child sex abuse sessions", imo they're not being accused they are being asked to help.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:18 pm 
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Phew I would hate to be around when you do :roll: it must be like Armageddon :) :wink:


I haven't a clue because as I said I don't have bad days, I have Ok days and better days :lol: It seems tho you may be referring to my temper which is the type that explodes but is very, very short lived and I never bare a grudge and I often wonder why people are still sulking after the event. That said I'm still wondering why taxi drivers feel like they are "being treated like criminals over child sex abuse sessions", imo they're not being accused they are being asked to help.


That said I'm still wondering why taxi drivers feel like they are "being treated like criminals over child sex abuse sessions", imo they're not being accused they are being asked to help.


Taking your last paragraph. You know enough about the trade to realise that we are not treated well and constantly via the press have the finger of guilt pointed at us. The LA's also seem to want to wield the big stick instead of backing us up, so is it any wonder that many feel like we are being treated with contempt. We then have to put up with nonsensical courses by the bucket load and many are also seeing this in the same vein.

With regards to help then I like to think that I would be amongst the first in the queue. Having said that I have not heard of children being abused in the back seat of a taxi and that a good every day driver has ignored it. This kind of thing goes on in homes, care homes, etc etc, as such this is not a taxi issue as others are in a far better position to spot what is going on. Unfortunately amongst those who can put things right cannot go whistle-blowing as it has become a no no.......as such they then wish to pass it onto us. #-o

Obviously if you saw a young child displaying sexual tendencies then one might raise the issue.....but it is a very thin line between helping.....and getting yourself into trouble. As I say many others are in a position to spot these things...as already said if a teacher is missing it.....then how is a dull taxi driver supposed to join up the dots.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:37 pm 
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With regards to help then I like to think that I would be amongst the first in the queue. Having said that I have not heard of children being abused in the back seat of a taxi and that a good every day driver has ignored it. This kind of thing goes on in homes, care homes, etc etc, as such this is not a taxi issue as others are in a far better position to spot what is going on. Unfortunately amongst those who can put things right cannot go whistle-blowing as it has become a no no.......as such they then wish to pass it onto us


Whilst you raise some valid points you still seem to be missing what they are asking drivers to do. Nobody is suggesting that the abuse is being carried out in taxis and drivers are ignoring it, nor are they suggesting that there is any improper behaviour within taxis between children and adults. What they are asking is that if you see signs that a child is being abused please let the authorities know, this can be done annon. What exactly is the problem, is it that drivers can't be bothered, they don't care, it's not their problem, they're worried that they may be found out telling tales, ignorance, apathy...... the list is endless as to why we shouldn't, couldn't or wouldn't help and there is only one reason why we would and that is for the one child it MAY save.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:03 pm 
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I have been reading this thread with some interest...not so long ago I was invited to attend a meeting with Sefton council on this subject...What they wanted was for the Taxi and PH to work with them and the police..to be extra eyes ...and to use the dedicated phone line if we saw something that we felt was wrong...which we agreed to.. working with.a big yes...but compulsory training.......No...

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:32 pm 
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With regards to help then I like to think that I would be amongst the first in the queue. Having said that I have not heard of children being abused in the back seat of a taxi and that a good every day driver has ignored it. This kind of thing goes on in homes, care homes, etc etc, as such this is not a taxi issue as others are in a far better position to spot what is going on. Unfortunately amongst those who can put things right cannot go whistle-blowing as it has become a no no.......as such they then wish to pass it onto us


Whilst you raise some valid points you still seem to be missing what they are asking drivers to do. Nobody is suggesting that the abuse is being carried out in taxis and drivers are ignoring it, nor are they suggesting that there is any improper behaviour within taxis between children and adults. What they are asking is that if you see signs that a child is being abused please let the authorities know, this can be done annon. What exactly is the problem, is it that drivers can't be bothered, they don't care, it's not their problem, they're worried that they may be found out telling tales, ignorance, apathy...... the list is endless as to why we shouldn't, couldn't or wouldn't help and there is only one reason why we would and that is for the one child it MAY save.


No I am not missing the points: What I am pointing out is that we are not in a position to see what others are actually in a position to see, and to actually do something about it. Make no mistake this is a back door attempt to cure all of us of the "Rotherham" syndrome. As mentioned "Teachers/Nursery" 6 hours a day times 5.......and they are not spotting the signs! When I see these muppets taking the course.........then I might start to take the courses as a genuine attempt to get these issues sorted out.

A taxi driver xxxx minutes per day is just not going to cut it, when taking into account that others of a perceived higher intelligence are missing the signs.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:40 pm 
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As mentioned "Teachers/Nursery" 6 hours a day times 5.......and they are not spotting the signs!

of course all abused children are in school everyday. :roll:

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As mentioned "Teachers/Nursery" 6 hours a day times 5.......and they are not spotting the signs!

of course all abused children are in school everyday. :roll:



Ahh another one missing the point. I am referring to the amount of time spent by teachers/nursery personnel in the company of these unfortunate children, compared to the small amount of time that a driver who should be concentrating on the road would have, the comparison being is that a teacher/nursery person who is actually focussing on the child...........and still not seeing it.

All these teachers missing it.........and I have still to see that they are going on the same course. You have got to get it right at the top, before you pass it onto the likes of us :roll:

With regards to these children being in school every day ! surely you do need me to tell you that the symptoms would not just show up during week days/term. As a matter of interest when was the last time you spotted a child with that problem and if so what did you do about it? There are professional people dealing with this and getting it wrong big time....and you think that possibly a taxi driver going on a course is going to sort it out!

I reiterate....someone has got taxi drivers and Rotherham on their mind ! Should it not be teachers, nursery, care workers, social workers etc etc getting it right before they turn to us. When it is genuine I will be there, until then it is b*ll*7ks.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:10 pm 
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Cabby John 1 wrote:
As a matter of interest when was the last time you spotted a child with that problem and if so what did you do about it?

A few months ago I became concerned about the welfare of a child of about 15 months old. I reported my concerns to social services and after their intervention and with a court order the child has been removed and placed with foster carers whilst social services work with the parents to see if they can be allowed to have the child returned.
My ex wife and I were foster carers ourselves many years ago and as part of the training process we undertook all sorts of training including looking for signs of abuse. Not all signs are obvious.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:43 pm 
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The council is proposing to make attendance at the training sessions a condition for Hackney Carriage and private hire taxi drivers getting a licence to work in the borough and the new rule would also apply to anyone handling calls in a taxi office.


CC.Don't you need a bylaw to alter a hackney driver licence

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:14 pm 
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The council is proposing to make attendance at the training sessions a condition for Hackney Carriage and private hire taxi drivers getting a licence to work in the borough and the new rule would also apply to anyone handling calls in a taxi office.


CC.Don't you need a bylaw to alter a hackney driver licence

What license does a telephonist need from the Council.

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The council is proposing to make attendance at the training sessions a condition for Hackney Carriage and private hire taxi drivers getting a licence to work in the borough and the new rule would also apply to anyone handling calls in a taxi office.


CC.Don't you need a bylaw to alter a hackney driver licence


Hackney Carriage drivers are governed via byelaws

I would suggest the council in this case will make sure a driver undertakes the course upon renewal - of course a driver may appeal that as it changes the rules

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The council is proposing to make attendance at the training sessions a condition for Hackney Carriage and private hire taxi drivers getting a licence to work in the borough and the new rule would also apply to anyone handling calls in a taxi office.

What license does a telephonist need from the Council.


no license - I suspect the council are making rules up

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:29 pm 
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The council is proposing to make attendance at the training sessions a condition for Hackney Carriage and private hire taxi drivers getting a licence to work in the borough and the new rule would also apply to anyone handling calls in a taxi office.


CC.Don't you need a bylaw to alter a hackney driver licence

What license does a telephonist need from the Council.

What would a telephonist see from behind a desk

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