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Local street corner taxi shop co-operatives the likes of City Cabs and CRT are highly inefficient and costly to run. They are top heavy with staff and have committeemen drawing ridiculous salaries. In short, they are no longer economically viable in the modern world of global app technologies.

So how long will it be before City Cabs and CRT succumb to the onslaught of Uber and Get Taxi to name but a few, that is the question?

Oh and before Dougie comes on giving it “ City Cabs app is wonderful” think about how much work City Cabs or CRT can afford to lose before the owners stop paying hiked radio dues to keep the company afloat.

I'll give it 2-3 years before the rot has firmly set in, it might even be sooner.

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Approaching 10,000 posts from the man they call the Skull and not a positive one amongst them.
The prediction that the end is coming repeated over and over.
Just finished a Friday night shift in Edinburgh's Premier Taxi Company.
A cracking shift finishing off with a St Michaels near Leuchers from Market Street. Yep there is no future in this business.
Here's to the next 10,000.

What can I say, I was ahead of my time.

Oh and Les, 02:18 in the morning and you are still out working?

And that job to Leuchers, off the street or from ECPH ?


Oh and lets not forget your salary from City Cabs? No fear of you working over the Christmas period on tariff 3 that's for sure.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
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Yeah you're not bitter Skull. You predicted the demise of Central taxis after losing use of the airport. Didn't happen. You're certainly no mystic meg and you'll be wrong again. Bring on Uber! I'm up for the challenge. Your attitude would be just tell Uber to F off, then the council, then the cab office, then other cabbies, then the world! Your modus operandi is the easy way out. Anyone can say F off to everyone but to take on challengers and roll up your sleeves is harder. The black cab trade is far more robust than you think.

I don't agree with most Dougie writes but at least he's positive and honest in his opinions. He's concerned about the trade and wants to try and promote a better future and living for those in it and I applaud that.

You've been out of the trade so long yet still spew your negativity on here constantly. It's tragic. Your only purpose would be as a glory hole on the feeder rank

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"I'm going to tell you the story about the geese which fly 5,000 miles from Canada to France. They fly in V-formation but the second ones don't fly. They're the subs for the first ones. And then the second ones take over - so it's teamwork."

The demise of CRT was a wind-up. You seem to forget that I've seen it all before when City Cabs stabbed everyone in the back at the Waverley. Oh and that was another real smart move, you ended up paying for something you already had just like out at the airport but then again, you are now working for Private Hire.

However, these GLOBAL app companies are a whole different ballgame. They are highly efficient and have money to burn. On the other hand, City Cabs and CRT are highly inefficient and don't have a pot to pi** in. They are too busy buying work. In fact, if it wasn't for hiking radio dues to buy the work, these old bowling club style co-operatives would have went down the pan years ago.

No Artur not this time, City and CRT are fu*ked. Now answer the question if you dare, how much work do City Cabs and CRT have to lose before paying hiked radio dues becomes the last nail in the company coffin? My bet is not much. And rats and ships spring to mind...

Oh and lets be quite clear, City and CRT might survive if they find some broom-cupboard to operate an app from but certainly not in their present form.

For these companies to survive they would need government to step in and save their ass and I can't see that happening any time soon.

Oh and Artur, me, bitter, you are having a laugh, I've never had it so good. "But to take on challengers and roll up your sleeves is harder" when has the taxi trade ever rolled up it's sleeves and taken on challenges? Artur you must be living in some sort of parallel universe to come away with that sh*te!.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
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Oh and Artur, I think giving City Cabs and CRT three years is being generous. Once they start losing work and the rot sets in it could happen overnight. There has to be a tipping point. Then you will see Les and the boys running out the back-door with the company silver in a bag with swag written all over it.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

Morning Skull, hope you're well. Ok lets go through your remarks......

You don't start well by admitting future predictions were a wind up. But i'll over look that and play the game. The waverley incident was about 30 years ago and yes it may be looked at as unsavoury to the taxi trade but in any other business would have been a shrewd move.

The working for the private hire is your awful attempt at to rile myself and others on here so we'll move on.

Yes these global apps have money to burn but whilst they are riding the crest of a wave just now on investor money these shareholders will want to see a return for their money and that's when the pressure of returns starts to add pressure, that's capitalism for you baby They also face another problem that's hindered the private hire and that's getting the number of drivers needed. Its my understanding they'll have to use licensed cars and taxis.

Oooooh ok i'll dare skull.......Ok assuming Uber make a real dent i'd imagine they'll go for the contracts in town forcing the companies to offer more discount increasing the radio fees. But i'll ask you.....how much could they offer to discount? Central are already discounting at 35-40% allegedly There is no more room for manoeuvre. If anything they'll just attract private hire drivers who'll soon get sick of working for reduced uber fees.

We've seen this before with comcab who were going to sweep the board with everyone. City and Central will be fine and it gives me satisfaction that will annoy you further as you sit wasting your time trying to convince yourself you've let go and moved on from the dreaded taxi trade you so hate.




Really Skull?? Try being truthful with yourself....it might just set you free

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"I'm going to tell you the story about the geese which fly 5,000 miles from Canada to France. They fly in V-formation but the second ones don't fly. They're the subs for the first ones. And then the second ones take over - so it's teamwork."

Christ listen to yourself! You sound like a patriot

Company silver?? thought the companies didn't have a pot to [edited by admin] in??

And Skull when i joined the taxi trade 19 years ago all i got told was it was doomed. It goes with the territory. Sadly the trade has a percentage of pessimistic goons such as yourself.

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"I'm going to tell you the story about the geese which fly 5,000 miles from Canada to France. They fly in V-formation but the second ones don't fly. They're the subs for the first ones. And then the second ones take over - so it's teamwork."

I was talking about the petty cash and whatever equipment they can get oot the back door. Oh and Artur your trade is a former shadow of the earning potential there was 25 years ago.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
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Artur writes:


No. The only wind-up was when CRT lost the airport to City Cabs. And as for the Waverley being a "shrewd move"… are you insane? City Cabs paid millions for work they already had and ended up no better off than CRT. In fact, the same thing has happened again out at the airport, the work has evened out over the peace. And the only winners in the game were the Railway Authorities, BAA and ECPH.

Artur you would have to be insane to think selling out the trade by taking over the Waverley or the airport for that matter, was a “shrewd move”.


Oh that’s right, it’s perfectly normal for Taxi companies to fulfil the contractual agreements of Ph, especially when ECPH couldn’t have won the airport contract on their own, on their best day. Honestly Artur you are a clown, if you think working for ECPH was another “shrewd move”.



Artur these GLOBAL app companies could buy and sell the Edinburgh Taxi Trade, you are not even in the game. Shrewd or what?



There is no competition here Artur, the minute Uber or Get Taxi make a serious dent in City or CRT it’s all over. They will go down like dominoes. They only need a relatively small percentage of major contracts to destabilise the whole trade and it's all over. Oh and they know it. Then it's just a mopping up process. Now that is shrewd.



No. you’ve not seen this before with ComCab, not even close. These are billion dollar Global technology platforms which completely cancel out the need for inefficient costly street corner operators the likes of City Cabs.

It’s game over. The question is not, if, it will happen but when? Shrewd? I think so.

Skull wrote:


Artur wrote:


What? You think I would be happier being a Cab...nigger like you. Honestly Artur, you might not be shrewd but you are delusional.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
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THE LOVE! These wickets think working against their own interest by dividing their trade, is a "shrewd move".

And they wonder why I feel nothing but contempt for these greedy, stupid parasitic ars*holes. They buy a licence plate, they don't really own, feed off their drivers and pretend to be businessmen. What a fu*king joke that is... Oh and now that everything is going Pete Tong, they are a "United Trade" that's going to fight off the nasty billion dollar multinational corporations.

The sad thing is, they don't even know where their best interests lie. And to think I spent twenty odd years working with these cretins. A lot of murderers don't do that kind of time.

And now because I laugh like a cavalier at their antics, I am bitter. I wouldn't miss this for the world.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

For Uber to do as you predict Skull the fences they need to jump are, driver participation ((plenty evidence of mistreatment)) they need App users ((Edinburgh is a small city in comparison to NY, India and London etc They won't get away with the bad press here, the App market is not as big as you think, Every company in Edinburgh including Ph operate their own Ridesharing App, CRT&CC Apps are well established, customers trust because of the reliability&service of our Apps, the customer has plenty of back up using our App, plenty of evidence within Ubers T&Cs that they are not responsible for driver behaviour etc)) They need local regulation to turn a blind eye to their working practices ((That's not going to happen, our trade won't allow it, the council won't allow it, they have a tram to pay for, they also have a huge shortfall in their budget, the last thing they need is a Taxi Price War, they also have the power to limit private hire, the last thing our council needs is a saturated market, they are trying to promote 20 mph zones, a cleaner greener City))

Driver Participation
App Users
Local regulation

3 huge fences, not hurdles but big jaggy fences Skull, the same ones you and your fellow crusader faced when trying to screw a trade, how did you's get on, you's fell at the first, you's kept trying but again you's just kept on falling, that should be failing but it's close enough.

If Uber does enter the market it'll have done so because of the trade, we'll fight fire with fire Skull, they will play by the rules we play by, remember Scotlands regulations differ from ((envied by)) England, those regulations are going to get a whole lot tighter.

So it's game on, Uber are hoping to be at the starting line, you again and again and again are at the starting line, let's see how you both clear the big jaggy fences, you don't half make some laughable predictions Skull, tell us one Cmon just one where you have been proved right, you know bang on I told you so

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The trade may want to consider the above if they are looking to what the future may bring.
There is no doubt the taxi trade and the general public will be tempted with what will be offered initially by these slick organisatios but perhaps we should be looking at the long term prospects of our trade.
Money will be thrown at enticing both drivers and passengers to try out the new service.
Ultimately the venture capatilists, who fund this, will want a healthy return and that can only come from either of two places. The customer or the driver.

Bravo Dougie! Bravo!

No doubt you'll feel the full force of Skulls bitterness and negativity but you make some great points. Skull sadly is too blinded by his hatred of the world to have any serious debate with him. His business plan is to tell everyone to F off!

Your avatar says it all Skull. A sad grown individual still playing the rebel sticking his middle finger up to the man!

I'm not sure your veins will be able to take much more bitterness coursing through them after the black trade send Uber hame to think again!!

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"I'm going to tell you the story about the geese which fly 5,000 miles from Canada to France. They fly in V-formation but the second ones don't fly. They're the subs for the first ones. And then the second ones take over - so it's teamwork."