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 Post subject: Re: RIP
PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:23 pm 
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So you found it Riveting then, the sequel is on its way 8)

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 Post subject: Re: RIP
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Private Reggie wrote:
So you found it Riveting then, the sequel is on its way 8)


No Dougie, I don't think I could take any more. #-o You just seem to make things up and then spew it forth without taking a breath. It's a sort of scatter-gun approach to making a point and then you spiral off in all directions. I can't read your posts without feeling dizzy. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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The Global Conglomerates hooked into information technology and where we are all heading.

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The Super Rich and Us. Two part series BBC.
Horizon. The Dark Side of the Web. BBC.
Citizen Four. Channel 4.
Dennis Potter's Karaoke / Cold Lazarus. Channel 4 / BBC.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP
PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:52 pm 
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Dougie with the greatest of respect your comments re owners doing more radio work than drivers is in my near 30 years experience absolute bollox.
Every owner I have worked for over the years usually paid ME money each week as I did more chucky than cash/street work most weeks. Why?? Cos to me a job was a job any chucky went to them and I did not care. You do not do yourself any favours with your sweeping generalisations :---)
Yet again this forum degenerates into personal insults and abuse from owners and others and you wonder why the trade is the way it is #-o


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 Post subject: Re: RIP
PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:08 pm 
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During times of high demand Owners are more likely to be loyal to radio work than drivers, that's what I'm saying, using the fact at times of high demand there will be more drivers than owners running mobile, im not singling out you as an individual, City Cabs have some great drivers who do the work on the circuit, you surely can't be advocating drivers are more loyal than owners :roll:

The majority of City Cab members/owners are extremely loyal to City Cabs and also to our present committee, the stats back this up, the point I'm also making is what chance have stand alone Apps got when at times of high demand a lot of Taxis are running mobile, that's where we have the advantage, we have a huge loyalty to our radio work, owners and drivers, I'm sure the stats prove my comments are correct.

Again the point I'm making is a collective point :wink:

On your last point about insults and abuse, the abuse is only coming from 1 or 2, I presume the insult/owner comment is aimed at me, I'm not insulting anyone, if it's taken by you as an insult and a personal one at that then that's your issue, there is no evidence of insulting the drivers of City Cabs coming from me :wink:

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Private Reggie wrote:
During times of high demand Owners are more likely to be loyal to radio work than drivers, that's what I'm saying, using the fact at times of high demand there will be more drivers than owners running mobile, im not singling out you as an individual, City Cabs have some great drivers who do the work on the circuit, you surely can't be advocating drivers are more loyal than owners :roll:


Is this based on any facts at all Private Reggie??

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The majority of City Cab members/owners are extremely loyal to City Cabs and also to our present committee, the stats back this up, the point I'm also making is what chance have stand alone Apps got when at times of high demand a lot of Taxis are running mobile, that's where we have the advantage, we have a huge loyalty to our radio work, owners and drivers, I'm sure the stats prove my comments are correct.


Ah its based on that rock solid "i'm sure".................. :wink: And then its just drivel.....i honestly don't know the point you're trying to make, but fear not its all covered by the i'm sure policy. Not once do you mention the actual customer in your vision for the future ramble.

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Again the point I'm making is a collective point :wink:


I'll need Dougie translate for this quip....you make no point and certainly not one that is collective :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: RIP
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Dearie me Artur :roll:

It's based on fact Artur, City Cabs like most companies during times of high demand for taxis find it difficult to get drivers to cover the Work, owners are not the problem, mentioned to me in a conversation with one of our committee men, some owners do run mobile but most go that extra mile as do some drivers, I'm not saying you or hssc do not cover the work, you may more than some owners but the bigger picture is, owners collectively are not the problem during peak periods, in my 17 years as a cabbie running mobile at peak periods has always been a problem, in Radio Cabs, in ComCabs, in CRT and in City, yes I've been in them all, City Cabs though are a stand out above the rest, ive been in for 6 years, I'm making money.

On Loyality, the stats do back up the majority of owners are loyal to City Cabs and our committee, they pull in votes and a majority who don't vote do so because they are happy with the way things are going, a non vote can be a vote of confidence, if I'm wrong where is the mass protests, where are the mass calls for our committee to resign, again the majority of members are loyal, the same can be said for many drivers.

During times of high demand Uber and Get Taxi will struggle more than an established circuit especially in Edinburgh to cover work, why, drivers running mobile, fact

As far as drivel goes, my first thought on your post was the same :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: RIP
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Private Reggie wrote:
Dearie me Artur :roll:

It's based on fact Artur, City Cabs like most companies during times of high demand for taxis find it difficult to get drivers to cover the Work, owners are not the problem, mentioned to me in a conversation with one of our committee men, some owners do run mobile but most go that extra mile as do some drivers, I'm not saying you or hssc do not cover the work, you may more than some owners but the bigger picture is, owners collectively are not the problem during peak periods, in my 17 years as a cabbie running mobile at peak periods has always been a problem, in Radio Cabs, in ComCabs, in CRT and in City, yes I've been in them all, City Cabs though are a stand out above the rest, ive been in for 6 years, I'm making money.


Absolute drivel and nonsense. Do you kiss the city badge before you go to sleep at night? So the problem when we're busy is the drivers fault, ok private reggie. As i've stated before Farage has your vote for certain. Having been both my working practices were the same. Lousy :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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On Loyality, the stats do back up the majority of owners are loyal to City Cabs and our committee, they pull in votes and a majority who don't vote do so because they are happy with the way things are going, a non vote can be a vote of confidence, if I'm wrong where is the mass protests, where are the mass calls for our committee to resign, again the majority of members are loyal, the same can be said for many drivers.


Can anyone seriously help here and explain what he means?? what are you going on about votes??? Mass protests?? mass calls??? You were at the agm, where were those who shout loudest?? For me this is the problem, too many chiefs not enough indians! If guys like you would just drive and give the customer excellent service, cause after all these people give us the means to own a house, have holidays etc etc, the trade wouldn't be so doom and gloom all the time.

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During times of high demand Uber and Get Taxi will struggle more than an established circuit especially in Edinburgh to cover work, why, drivers running mobile, fact

As far as drivel goes, my first thought on your post was the same :lol:


You've lost me again. You keep harping on about drivers running mobile like this is some point. The thing is PR uber and get taxi won't care about such things as if they have high demand then they've already forced their way in.

Can't you see it? its there right in front of you..........

There is no threat from uber and get taxi if no licensed driver signs up. We have our destiny in our hands.

Now mr smarty pants tell us what role ETA will have in promoting the black cab trade? please

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 Post subject: Re: RIP
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Private Reggie a job is a job it's all money one way or another if it's chucky it pay's the dues , credit card goes straight to the bank and hopefully the cash stay's in the pockets , with the addition of new apps arriving on our door step so to speak we must change accordingly to meet demand , but if that means reducing fares then we are screwed if we earn less for our working week it would be better to sell up . There is no difference between a driver and an owner we are all out to make a wage unless your sitting in an office and only work the cab for beer money .


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Not a member of ETA, it's a driver association, it's open to both owners and drivers but I'm represented by City Cab reps, im bound by the rules and laws of the association but seeing as your easily confused by simple arithmetic I won't go in to that :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: RIP
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Artur writes:
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There is no threat from uber and get taxi if no licensed driver signs up. We have our destiny in our hands.


Not quite true Artur, you could certainly slow down the rot but in reality, it's only a matter of time before companies such as City and CRT are obsolete. Their business models are inefficient, costly and redundant. :-| Oh and you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that taxi apps are the future. =D> =D> =D> =D>

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 Post subject: Re: RIP
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Private Reggie what about the STF that's also an association of which we are members so what's the difference .


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 Post subject: Re: RIP
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the real taxi driver wrote:
Private Reggie a job is a job it's all money one way or another if it's chucky it pay's the dues , credit card goes straight to the bank and hopefully the cash stay's in the pockets , with the addition of new apps arriving on our door step so to speak we must change accordingly to meet demand , but if that means reducing fares then we are screwed if we earn less for our working week it would be better to sell up . There is no difference between a driver and an owner we are all out to make a wage unless your sitting in an office and only work the cab for beer money .

Edinburgh is a small market, I've made the point before, I'm not going to chuck the towel in, at 50 I'm in for the long haul, I believe Uber and Get Taxi will struggle again I've given my reasons why, the main reason though, is driver Loyality, we struggle as it is, what makes Uber or Get Taxi so special, plenty of evidence showing the way Uber treat their drivers once they have a grip of their baws, it's happened before with ComCab, I bought into that I'm not buying into Uber or Get Taxi, City Cabs is worth fighting for, because it's Edinburgh and the market it is, like before we can come through the challenge, firstly though we must push for a level playing field, Ubers business practices have been proven to play outwith regulations, Price surging in Scotland is not allowed, we must also ensure any mass PH licence requests are based on SUDs, our LA can do this, the trade has to demand a level playing field, my main worry though is driver Loyality to the Trade.

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the real taxi driver wrote:
Private Reggie a job is a job it's all money one way or another if it's chucky it pay's the dues , credit card goes straight to the bank and hopefully the cash stay's in the pockets , with the addition of new apps arriving on our door step so to speak we must change accordingly to meet demand , but if that means reducing fares then we are screwed


If we reduce fares you're right it will be a race to the bottom. But it won't come to that. We can't be frightened every time a new threat comes along. But everyone promoting the company would be good. Mention to the customer to take a card with number on it. Back bumper adds etc etc. Simple stuff.

TRTD you sound like you're up for the fight against these apps. I'm heartened.

We also have a captive market coming out the airport, could we do more to boost our business with them?

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 Post subject: Re: RIP
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Private Reggie what about the STF that's also an association of which we are members so what's the difference .

STF are national, ETA are local, Radio Companies like CC&CRT could deem ETA at anytime detrimental if it becomes radical, All local reps must get around the table and find some common ground, that is going to be difficult because there are to many egos who have agendas against individuals, our trade has come close in the past, let's hope the fight against Uber brings us that little bit closer.

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