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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:20 am 
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les mcvay wrote:
To be honest the last 3 years have been quite eventful and challenging in other areas.
Apart from preparing ourselves to match any and every service level our competitors offer, which we have achieved, apart from the discounting levels, I am not sure what else could have been done.
Our members and drivers will be up for this challenge. If Uber and Get Taxi decide to flood Edinburgh with discounts there is not much anybody can do about it other than concentrate on our own performance.
If drivers are seduced by these short term offers then I again refer to the links previously posted on how these companies operate and how drivers ultimately lose out.
City Cabs was founded in 1925 by a handful of taxi drivers who decided that it would in their interests to establish a democratic Association which would be ran by the members for the members.
Although technology has changed somewhat the principles are the same. Our members and drivers have a choice whether to retain their destiny in their own hands or jump ship to a group of entrepreneurs from Tel Aviv or a bunch of venture capitalists from the east coast of America.
I have a busy few days ahead so don't take it personally but I won't be back on here for a wee while. Perhaps when I come back you will have started a new thread about the same negativity.

Perhaps we could ask the administrator to start up a "Skull's Scottish Section"


Les the above is bollocks!! #-o #-o #-o

Not only have you admitted to failing to properly inform your shareholders of a serious threat to their company of which you were fully aware but as an office-bearer, you have admitted to an act of negligence and a dereliction of your duty under company law. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

This is a criminal offence. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


You are nuts Les.... :shock: :shock: :shock:

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:47 am 
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You really have to try and let things go.
You were awarded a taxi Operators Licence on two occasions by the City of Edinburgh Council and you chose to sell them both for a tidy profit. You went back a third time and because Edinburgh city centre was full of taxis and private hire vehicles the Council had decided to reintroduce a restriction. Your third application was declined. This along with the decision by the Council to withdraw your taxi drivers licence has made you a bitter person towards the whole trade and everyone in it.
I think this is probably, sadly, a natural reaction for many but to keep it up for this period of time is a concern.
I really do recommend "Stop Thinking Start Living", no disrespect intended, but if you don't have £6.49 private message me your address and I will gladly send you my copy.

You may well think that The Democratising of Transportation is a good thing and that the way forward for our trade is that anyone with an e-mail address can download an App, as is happening now in Edinburgh, and overnight become a taxi/private hire driver, without any thought for the Public Safety issues that would surely follow. I again refer to some of the links above detailing horror stories. The bottom line is you messed things up for yourself as a taxi driver now you have a mission in life to mess it up for everyone else.

Now I want you to sit down and be still for a few minutes and think about this. Do you really think that I should resign because you say so?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:20 am 
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les mcvay wrote:
You really have to try and let things go.
You were awarded a taxi Operators Licence on two occasions by the City of Edinburgh Council and you chose to sell them both for a tidy profit. You went back a third time and because Edinburgh city centre was full of taxis and private hire vehicles the Council had decided to reintroduce a restriction. Your third application was declined. This along with the decision by the Council to withdraw your taxi drivers licence has made you a bitter person towards the whole trade and everyone in it.
I think this is probably, sadly, a natural reaction for many but to keep it up for this period of time is a concern.
I really do recommend "Stop Thinking Start Living", no disrespect intended, but if you don't have £6.49 private message me your address and I will gladly send you my copy.

You may well think that The Democratising of Transportation is a good thing and that the way forward for our trade is that anyone with an e-mail address can download an App, as is happening now in Edinburgh, and overnight become a taxi/private hire driver, without any thought for the Public Safety issues that would surely follow. I again refer to some of the links above detailing horror stories. The bottom line is you messed things up for yourself as a taxi driver now you have a mission in life to mess it up for everyone else.

Now I want you to sit down and be still for a few minutes and think about this. Do you really think that I should resign because you say so?

Happiness is like a Butterfly
The more you chase it the more it will delude you
Stand still for a minute or two.
Be at peace
And it will come and settle on your shoulder.


Les I think you should resign because at the very least you are incompetent and at worst criminal. #-o

City Cabs faces the greatest threat to existence in the history of the company of which you were fully aware but you take it upon yourself not to inform its shareholders? #-o #-o #-o #-o

You do realise that under company law it is your responsibility to keep the members fully informed of any major threat to their company? #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

And what is more, don't you thing they had a right to know? #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:59 pm 
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Gary your way off the Mark with your comments, no one could have predicted the total disregard Uber has for regulation, this disregard is causing the threat, City Cabs have lead by the front in dealing with the impending threat, 3 years we have had an App, it's well established, I personally have been on the Uber case for at least 3years, I highlighted it to Kenny during the Scot Gov consultation on Taxis, that was back in 2012.

One things for sure Uber play hard ball but at the moment it's our ball, we are armed with much info on Ubers total disregard for regulation, we also know their strategy, we are ready to counter. :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:16 pm 
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You are making this judgement from a position where you have little knowledge of City Cabs.
I am happy for our members to make their minds up regarding my performance.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:21 pm 
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what about city cabs treatment of the street cars , put the airport permit up and tell them they cant have the app, street cars are needed at the airport and should not be pushed out the door


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 3:10 pm 
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Nobody is pushing.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 3:54 pm 
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what about city cabs treatment of the street cars , put the airport permit up and tell them they cant have the app, street cars are needed at the airport and should not be pushed out the door


You should be thankful City Cabs secured the contract and let the street cars in.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:02 pm 
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les mcvay wrote:
I know you will not believe this but I have been well aware of the threat from both of these companies as I am aware of the threat from the vibrant Private Hire section of our Trade.
It's geting our members to stand still long enough to listen. They are always on the go these days.



Oh I am sure you were well aware of the threat from UBER and GETTAXI but did you discuss such a serious threat with the company at an EGM or AGM so your shareholders were fully informed? :shock:

You did have at least 3 years, after all.... :shock:



The same shareholders who some won't even promote their own business?? bumper adds etc etc.

You can be negligent in running the company Skull but you can't be held accountable if a global app moves into town.

Anyway we've seen of Getaxi and Uber will be next.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:18 pm 
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pepsimax1 wrote:
what about city cabs treatment of the street cars , put the airport permit up and tell them they cant have the app, street cars are needed at the airport and should not be pushed out the door


I think City Cabs offered the street cars a great opportunity to earn money working the Airport by offering them the chance to take a permit. The choice was of course the Owner of the street car whether they wanted the permit or not. If City Cabs need to increase the cost of the permit then that is a commercial decision. The street cars have the choice to keep the permit or not. As for your comment regarding the App. Why would City Cabs want to have street car taxis sitting on the Main Rank advertising GetTaxi? The owner of the Taxi has the choice. Keep the permit and work to the rules you signed up to, or if you want to use the App then hand your permit back. I think City Cabs are being very fair about the issue.

Incidentally Pepsi Max, how much do you have to pay GetTaxi per job?


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:19 pm 
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why should i be thankfull ? no company can cover the airport , street cars leave queues get bigger punters go to the other side


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never said i had get taxi


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:21 pm 
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pepsimax1 wrote:
why should i be thankfull ? no company can cover the airport , street cars leave queues get bigger punters go to the other side


You wouldn't have been working the Airport if Central had been successful in securing the Airport Contract. You could also apply to City Cabs to become a full member of the Company?


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:23 pm 
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when city won the airport com cab where offered reduced permits so whats the difference between com cab and app


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if i had a spare 7k i would


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