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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:36 pm 
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Again unless things are different up your way, a Hackney Carriage must always use the meter on jobs entirely within the district and the fare charged can be no more than that shown on the meter.


except it aint a statutory requirement to have a taximeter :wink:

There are not to many councils that don't have meters.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:46 pm 
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A private hire is between punter and booking office then booking office and driver, the vehicle or licence type doesn't come in to it

Again unless things are different up your way, a Hackney Carriage must always use the meter on jobs entirely within the district and the fare charged can be no more than that shown on the meter.

We can accept fixed fares if it's a private hire between punter and booking office, the general rule of thumb for jobs outwith our boundaries, the fare is fare by agreement.


Reggie, your ignorance of how Taxis and PHC works in Edinburgh is astounding. What do you call it when you are given a fixed fare account job off your system and the fixed price is less than the metered rate due to discounts etc and wait for it you take the punter through the Greenways and with your meter switched off?

And by the way you still haven't answered my earlier question.

C'mon Reggie you're not normally reluctant to comment.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:49 pm 
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There are not to many councils that don't have meters.


and there's a few that don't set Hackney Fares

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 6:35 pm 
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Private Reggie wrote:
A private hire is between punter and booking office then booking office and driver, the vehicle or licence type doesn't come in to it therefore allowing us Black Cab drivers access to the greenways, which access is based on vehicle type with a licence not based on the driver, as is the case with most ECPH airport brief holders :wink:

Glad to of service Fat Boab :lol: :lol:

Take it you missed this post Boab, greenway access is based on Vehicle status, a taxi hired or for hire can use the greenways, a private hire vehicle can't, it's got nothing to do with the type of hire/job, frustrating if your a brief holder driving in from Edinburgh airport in a saloon, but the regulations are clear.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:12 pm 
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Reggie, when is a taxi not a taxi, according to you it's when it's operating on a private hire or as a private hire. You're on very thin ice here with the difference and distinction of how both licensed vehicle types operate. And Reggie you as a taxi cannot access the Greenways during operational hours when plying for hire, they are for use when carrying passengers on a public hire only, ask your mate Mckaskill or your arch nemesis Skull.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:24 pm 
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Reggie, when is a taxi not a taxi, according to you it's when it's operating on a private hire or as a private hire. You're on very thin ice here with the difference and distinction of how both licensed vehicle types operate. And Reggie you as a taxi cannot access the Greenways during operational hours when plying for hire, they are for use when carrying passengers on a public hire only, ask your mate Mckaskill or your arch nemesis Skull.

I'm not saying a Taxi is not a Taxi,when on a privately hired pre-booked job, I think your confused, I'm saying a Pre-booked job is a private hire regardless of vehicle/driver type, I can also ply for hire on the greenways, I can cruise them with my begging light on, how can you tell or how can anyone tell what kind of hire we are on from the outside, you can't, access to the greenway is exclusively for use for buses, black licenced cabs and cyclist's, all easily identifiable, Cmon we can't have any old saloon car on the greenways now can we :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:50 pm 
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Reggie, you're digging a bigger hole for yourself, you say a taxi can be on a "privately hired pre booked job" this is what a PHC does all the time. A taxi is for public hire and a PHC for private hire, that should be your answer. You by making the mistake of wanting and expecting the best of both worlds are allowing the powers that be to legitimately challenge through the new legislation that is coming your very rights of Taxi operation as you currently have. I would wager any organised PHC operation would win, assuming they don't use Central Taxis lawyers, oops!


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:06 pm 
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Fat Boab wrote:
Reggie, you're digging a bigger hole for yourself, you say a taxi can be on a "privately hired pre booked job" this is what a PHC does all the time. A taxi is for public hire and a PHC for private hire, that should be your answer. You by making the mistake of wanting and expecting the best of both worlds are allowing the powers that be to legitimately challenge through the new legislation that is coming your very rights of Taxi operation as you currently have. I would wager any organised PHC operation would win, assuming they don't use Central Taxis lawyers, oops!

The private hire is agreed between punter and booking office.

Private hire cars are not easily identifiable in traffic, they also don't pick up random fares from the street, buses and black cabs do, two reasons why PHC are not allowed to use the greenways, un winnable in my opinion :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:11 pm 
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Fat Boab wrote:
Reggie, you're digging a bigger hole for yourself, you say a taxi can be on a "privately hired pre booked job" this is what a PHC does all the time. A taxi is for public hire and a PHC for private hire, that should be your answer. You by making the mistake of wanting and expecting the best of both worlds are allowing the powers that be to legitimately challenge through the new legislation that is coming your very rights of Taxi operation as you currently have. I would wager any organised PHC operation would win, assuming they don't use Central Taxis lawyers, oops!

Do you know the difference between a stone mason and a brickie :?:

A stone mason is qualified to do both =D>

Ph driver can drive a saloon but not a Taxi, a Taxi driver can drive both a saloon and a black cab :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:38 pm 
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Now you are making the case easier Reggie, a taxi driver can drive and operate both types and do the same types of hire, Reggie why would the PHC trade need to go and hire expensive lawyers when you can provide and prove all the arguments necessary?

Outstanding Reggie I don't think you realise what you have said. All the brief holding, PH vehicle driving chaps will be rejoicing with your thinking. Let's hope your committee aren't reading this, gee whizz it's like Christmas.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:39 pm 
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Private Reggie wrote:

Ph driver can drive a saloon but not a Taxi, a Taxi driver can drive both a saloon and a black cab :wink:

Are you saying that a driver with a Hackney badge can also drive a private hire vehicle?

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Private Reggie wrote:

Ph driver can drive a saloon but not a Taxi, a Taxi driver can drive both a saloon and a black cab :wink:


not here they cant :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:52 pm 
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Captain, in Edinburgh yes they can and do. There are many brief holders driving PHC vehicles especially out of Edinburgh airport. I am interested in your and others take on the implications for Reggie and crew on this given his acknowledgement that both Hackney on a pre booked hire and PHC are always doing this yet Reggie thinks the Greenways are sacrosanct to the hacks?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:05 pm 
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Location: Liverpool, UK. - Sefton PH Badged
Hackney & Private Hire drivers in Liverpool & Sefton face the same tests/knowledge, I know Liverpool, you can pay a fee, maybe £20 to swop over to a Hackney or vice versa.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:11 pm 
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Fat Boab give up the crusade m8 your not getting the greenways, simples, too many objections from Lothian Buses, Cyclists, emergancy services and the police, Cmon Boab your sounding like Skull, how many tickets you had, I feel for you but it's about choice :wink:

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