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Fantastic news ! Now we need North Yorkshire police to charge the ape !!!
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Find out how to Legally Avoid the BBC Licence Fee

Ban The BBC

March 25, 2015



There has never been a better time to cancel your BBC TV Licence. But time may be running out for you to make a lawful protest against the tyranny of the BBC TV Licence fee tax…

With every new scandal, twist and turn of the state broadcaster comes further evidence that this organisation is corrupt, wasteful and does not serve the interests of those who pay for it.

The most recent controversy is the suspension of Jeremy Clarkson after a bizarrely described ‘fracas’ between himself and an assistant producer. Over ONE MILLION people signed the @GuidoFawkes #BringBackClarkson petition to reinstate Clarkson.

At time of writing there have been mixed reports as to whether Clarkson has been sacked or not. But one thing is absolutely clear: the viewer is way down the pecking order as far as the BBC top brass is concerned. Top Gear was pulled from the schedules even before any finding was made against Clarkson. Punish Clarkson by all means but not the fans.

For the record I did not sign this petition. I simply do not see a role for a state propaganda machine in 2015 or beyond. Certainly I do not support that you should hand over your hard earned money on threat of prison for state permission to watch mainstream entertainment.

That said, I nevertheless recognise that the BBC Top Gear show is immensely popular with its fans. I read many responses on twitter that questioned ‘Why am I paying a licence fee if Top Gear is taken off the air’. Unfortunately, the TV Licence does not operate as a subscription service much as BBC would like you to think it does. Even if the BBC did not exist unless the TV Licence legislation was repealed, you would still have to pay the TV Licence fee to watch or record any live TV. As such, the TV Licence operates as a TAX. And as a tax, the TV Licence is not a payment for any BBC service.

Quite simply, the TV Licence has survived at least half a century beyond its use-by date. There is no technological reason for it to exist today and it is merely an accident of history that it remains.

So if you want to make the best protest you can against the BBC, the only way to do it is to STOP FUNDING THEM. You can do this legally and it takes only minutes to sort out.

There are several strategies that the legally licence free community recommend. Firstly I advocate you to stay within the law at all times. There is as yet no reason for anyone to break the law to protest against the BBC licence fee. All that is involved is some minor inconvenience of only watching catch-up TV services after they have been broadcast on TV.

Three rules to ensure compliance with the law:

Rule 1. Detune your TV’s and disconnect any aerials or satellite feeds and cut or tape up the ends. (This is to satisfy the requirement that TV Receivers must not be installed)

Rule 2. DO NOT watch or record ANY LIVE TV on ANY device for ANY reason. (You may watch Catch-Up TV services after they have been shown on TV)

Rule 3. At all times NEVER ADMIT to any TV Licensing representative that you have watched or recorded any live TV on ANY device for ANY reason.

Also NEVER ADMIT to watching any internet streaming broadcast as it is also shown on TV. This can be SKY NEWS or AL-JAZZERRA originally beamed from Doha. Note this is not restricted to just BBC as some mistakenly believe. Only ever say you watch DVD’s/Netflix etc and Catch-Up TV only.

Mindful of the above rules your next steps are:

1: You must, absolutely must, CANCEL any TV licence you have. TV Licensing assume (wrongly) you still need one if you don’t inform them you are cancelling your TV Licence. You can do this by email to support@tvlicensing.co.uk (Note they take a long time to respond: up to a week. Be patient and do not pre-empt additional unnecessary communication with them).

2: Cancel any direct debits you have to TV Licensing.

3: Optionally you can declare a “No Licence Needed”. Ideally you should have no further contact with any TV Licensing representative (Capita). The link to the “No Licence Needed” declaration is here.

BBC

There are some further pointers to observe to ensure you stay safe from prosecution:

1: TV Licensing have no right of access to your property whatsoever except by a search warrant.

2: There is no legal obligation for you to have contact with them or provide them with any information exceptunder a search warrant to provide ‘reasonable assistance’ to enable them to do their test of any TV receiving equipment found.

3: Most importantly: Get yourself informed.A thoughtful, reasoned stand against the BBC does take a bit of effort. Take the time to understand TV Licensing law. Here are some excellent blogs run by well informed people I throughly recommend:

TV Licensing Blog

TV Licensing Resistance

TV Licensing Watch

The sad truth is TV Licensing is run as a high-pressure commission-based sales operation. It is a dirty business. Invariably, TV Licensing only convict on evidence you provide by way of an admission. Unless the TV is visibly on in the front room, there is no reason for you to provide them with any evidence against you whatsoever. Oh, the ‘TV detector’ is a crock: It has never been used as evidence for any court conviction of watching live TV. It is only used to gather evidence for a search warrant and even that is done on the shakiest of scientific basis.

A word of warning. In looking around the Internet you may come across “Freeman of The Land” (FMOTL) type arguments. They all boil down to essentially a concept of individual choice, contract, consent and a misunderstanding of common law. While I have sympathy with such purist thinking, FMOTL arguments only make for impressive YouTube videos. They absolutely DO NOT WORK at your local friendly Magistrates Courts or indeed in any court up to and including the Supreme Court. Parliament made law is accepted by all courts in the UK. Sorry about that.

I said at the outset that time for you to make a lawful protest against the BBC was running out. Indeed it is. The influential Department of Culture Media and Sport Select Committee’s preferred future funding model for the BBC is to introduce a flat household poll tax to be added to everyone’s council tax regardless of whether they watch any BBC service or TV or radio at all. If this was introduced, there would be virtually no escape from paying this charge. The enormity of this proposal is truly staggering given the litany of scandal that has come out about the BBC.

But for right now the choice is still yours. Take back your choice and your money. There has never been a better time to cancel your TV Licence. Do it today.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:15 pm 
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x-ray wrote:
Fantastic news ! Now we need North Yorkshire police to charge the ape !!!

I like the fella and the show.

However if he is guilty of an assault then he should be prosecuted in the same way as the likes of us.

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I like the fella and the show.

However if he is guilty of an assault then he should be prosecuted in the same way as the likes of us.


yep I agree

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:11 pm 
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captain cab wrote:
Find out how to Legally Avoid the BBC Licence Fee

Ban The BBC

March 25, 2015



There has never been a better time to cancel your BBC TV Licence. But time may be running out for you to make a lawful protest against the tyranny of the BBC TV Licence fee tax…

With every new scandal, twist and turn of the state broadcaster comes further evidence that this organisation is corrupt, wasteful and does not serve the interests of those who pay for it.

The most recent controversy is the suspension of Jeremy Clarkson after a bizarrely described ‘fracas’ between himself and an assistant producer. Over ONE MILLION people signed the @GuidoFawkes #BringBackClarkson petition to reinstate Clarkson.

At time of writing there have been mixed reports as to whether Clarkson has been sacked or not. But one thing is absolutely clear: the viewer is way down the pecking order as far as the BBC top brass is concerned. Top Gear was pulled from the schedules even before any finding was made against Clarkson. Punish Clarkson by all means but not the fans.

For the record I did not sign this petition. I simply do not see a role for a state propaganda machine in 2015 or beyond. Certainly I do not support that you should hand over your hard earned money on threat of prison for state permission to watch mainstream entertainment.

That said, I nevertheless recognise that the BBC Top Gear show is immensely popular with its fans. I read many responses on twitter that questioned ‘Why am I paying a licence fee if Top Gear is taken off the air’. Unfortunately, the TV Licence does not operate as a subscription service much as BBC would like you to think it does. Even if the BBC did not exist unless the TV Licence legislation was repealed, you would still have to pay the TV Licence fee to watch or record any live TV. As such, the TV Licence operates as a TAX. And as a tax, the TV Licence is not a payment for any BBC service.

Quite simply, the TV Licence has survived at least half a century beyond its use-by date. There is no technological reason for it to exist today and it is merely an accident of history that it remains.

So if you want to make the best protest you can against the BBC, the only way to do it is to STOP FUNDING THEM. You can do this legally and it takes only minutes to sort out.

There are several strategies that the legally licence free community recommend. Firstly I advocate you to stay within the law at all times. There is as yet no reason for anyone to break the law to protest against the BBC licence fee. All that is involved is some minor inconvenience of only watching catch-up TV services after they have been broadcast on TV.

Three rules to ensure compliance with the law:

Rule 1. Detune your TV’s and disconnect any aerials or satellite feeds and cut or tape up the ends. (This is to satisfy the requirement that TV Receivers must not be installed)

Rule 2. DO NOT watch or record ANY LIVE TV on ANY device for ANY reason. (You may watch Catch-Up TV services after they have been shown on TV)

Rule 3. At all times NEVER ADMIT to any TV Licensing representative that you have watched or recorded any live TV on ANY device for ANY reason.

Also NEVER ADMIT to watching any internet streaming broadcast as it is also shown on TV. This can be SKY NEWS or AL-JAZZERRA originally beamed from Doha. Note this is not restricted to just BBC as some mistakenly believe. Only ever say you watch DVD’s/Netflix etc and Catch-Up TV only.

Mindful of the above rules your next steps are:

1: You must, absolutely must, CANCEL any TV licence you have. TV Licensing assume (wrongly) you still need one if you don’t inform them you are cancelling your TV Licence. You can do this by email to support@tvlicensing.co.uk (Note they take a long time to respond: up to a week. Be patient and do not pre-empt additional unnecessary communication with them).

2: Cancel any direct debits you have to TV Licensing.

3: Optionally you can declare a “No Licence Needed”. Ideally you should have no further contact with any TV Licensing representative (Capita). The link to the “No Licence Needed” declaration is here.

BBC

There are some further pointers to observe to ensure you stay safe from prosecution:

1: TV Licensing have no right of access to your property whatsoever except by a search warrant.

2: There is no legal obligation for you to have contact with them or provide them with any information exceptunder a search warrant to provide ‘reasonable assistance’ to enable them to do their test of any TV receiving equipment found.

3: Most importantly: Get yourself informed.A thoughtful, reasoned stand against the BBC does take a bit of effort. Take the time to understand TV Licensing law. Here are some excellent blogs run by well informed people I throughly recommend:

TV Licensing Blog

TV Licensing Resistance

TV Licensing Watch

The sad truth is TV Licensing is run as a high-pressure commission-based sales operation. It is a dirty business. Invariably, TV Licensing only convict on evidence you provide by way of an admission. Unless the TV is visibly on in the front room, there is no reason for you to provide them with any evidence against you whatsoever. Oh, the ‘TV detector’ is a crock: It has never been used as evidence for any court conviction of watching live TV. It is only used to gather evidence for a search warrant and even that is done on the shakiest of scientific basis.

A word of warning. In looking around the Internet you may come across “Freeman of The Land” (FMOTL) type arguments. They all boil down to essentially a concept of individual choice, contract, consent and a misunderstanding of common law. While I have sympathy with such purist thinking, FMOTL arguments only make for impressive YouTube videos. They absolutely DO NOT WORK at your local friendly Magistrates Courts or indeed in any court up to and including the Supreme Court. Parliament made law is accepted by all courts in the UK. Sorry about that.

I said at the outset that time for you to make a lawful protest against the BBC was running out. Indeed it is. The influential Department of Culture Media and Sport Select Committee’s preferred future funding model for the BBC is to introduce a flat household poll tax to be added to everyone’s council tax regardless of whether they watch any BBC service or TV or radio at all. If this was introduced, there would be virtually no escape from paying this charge. The enormity of this proposal is truly staggering given the litany of scandal that has come out about the BBC.

But for right now the choice is still yours. Take back your choice and your money. There has never been a better time to cancel your TV Licence. Do it today.



You'll need a licence even if you don't have a TV but have a computer or laptop, saying that I've not had one for over 5 years. 8) 8)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:13 pm 
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Nidge2 wrote:


You'll need a licence even if you don't have a TV but have a computer or laptop, saying that I've not had one for over 5 years. 8) 8)


apparently not through reading the article

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Nidge2 wrote:


You'll need a licence even if you don't have a TV but have a computer or laptop, saying that I've not had one for over 5 years. 8) 8)


apparently not through reading the article



Welcome to the BBC.

Rape all the children you like, just don't punch a producer
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James May now aligned with JC, Hammy will join in, TG will be as dull as it was pre-jezza, 5th gear was better then

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He's already got another job lined up

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152831587759001

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Unless there are any clauses in the contracts stopping them from making a similar program elsewhere, it wont be long before they are snapped up by Sky. Shall we start a book on what the program will be called?

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I think JC owns the rights to Top Gear.

Better watching Fifth Gear, Fast n Loud, Outlaw Garage, Counting Cars, Chasing Classic Cars and Restoration Garage, then there's Lizard Lick Towing :lol:

is it too late for JC to stand for UKIP :lol:

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Private Reggie wrote:
I think JC owns the rights to Top Gear.

Better watching Fifth Gear, Fast n Loud, Outlaw Garage, Counting Cars, Chasing Classic Cars and Restoration Garage, then there's Lizard Lick Towing :lol:

is it too late for JC to stand for UKIP :lol:


He sold his rights as far as I know

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Private Reggie wrote:


is it too late for JC to stand for UKIP :lol:

No, the closing date for nominations is 16.00 on April 9th. you can't formally submit your nomination until next week after parliament is dissolved. The last day to register to vote at the election is April 20th.

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toots wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
I think JC owns the rights to Top Gear.

Better watching Fifth Gear, Fast n Loud, Outlaw Garage, Counting Cars, Chasing Classic Cars and Restoration Garage, then there's Lizard Lick Towing :lol:

is it too late for JC to stand for UKIP :lol:


He sold his rights as far as I know

From 3 years ago.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-19756337

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Shall we start a book on what the program will be called?


Punch a producer :lol:

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