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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:48 pm 
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Isnt it just an English thing this De Regulation Bill?

NO!


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:32 pm 
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Isnt it just an English thing this De Regulation Bill?

NO!


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Excuse me but as you pointed out in your last post it covers Wales as well so it is not just an English thing. :mrgreen:

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Excuse me but as you pointed out in your last post it covers Wales as well so it is not just an English thing. :mrgreen:


You are excused :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:50 pm 
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Excuse me but as you pointed out in your last post it covers Wales as well so it is not just an English thing.



Why didnt you say that instead of simply NO!


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 11:12 pm 
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Excuse me but as you pointed out in your last post it covers Wales as well so it is not just an English thing.



Why didnt you say that instead of simply NO!

Where would be the fun in that. i have to have some pleasure, I am sat here tonight answering the phones instead of being out there where the action is.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 1:59 am 
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grandad wrote:
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Excuse me but as you pointed out in your last post it covers Wales as well so it is not just an English thing.



Why didnt you say that instead of simply NO!

Where would be the fun in that. i have to have some pleasure, I am sat here tonight answering the phones instead of being out there where the action is.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 8:25 am 
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You sick little Monkey.. [-X

OY! less of the little!!

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grandad wrote:
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You sick little Monkey.. [-X

OY! less of the little!!


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:42 pm 
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Commons amendments passed by the lords. Bill now goes for Royal assent.

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Commons amendments passed by the lords. Bill now goes for Royal assent.



Which will not take long...However it appears that the start date of the two sections
Will be down to the Secretary of State to decide see section 95(6)

95 Commencement
(1)The following provisions come into force on the day on which this Act is passed—
(a)section 30;
(b)section 31;
(c) section 33;
(d)section 71;
(e)sections 89, 90(1), (2) and (4) to (8) and 91;
(f)sections 92 to 94, this section and section 96.
(2)The following provisions also come into force on the day on which this Act is passed but only so far as is necessary for enabling the exercise on or after that day of any power to make provision by an order or regulations—
(a)section 1;
(b)section 39;
(c)sections 47 to 49;
(d)Parts 1 and 4 of Schedule 1, Schedules 2, 4 and 8, Part 6 of Schedule 10 and Schedule 19 (and the sections to which those Schedules relate).
Deregulation Bill Page 74
(3) The following provisions come into force at the end of the period of 2 months beginning with the day on which this Act is passed—
(a)section 13 and Schedule 4 (so far as not already in force by virtue of subsection (2));
(b)section 16;
(c)section 27;
(d)section 29;
(e)section 31;
(f)section 36 and Schedule 9;
(g)sections 40 to 43;
(h)section 46;
(i)section 50 and Schedule 14;
(j)section 51 and Schedule 15;
(k)section 65;
(l)section 79 to 82;
(m)section 83 and Schedule 20;
(n)sections 84 to 86;
(o)section 87 and Schedule 21 other than paragraphs 34, 35 and 40 of that Schedule;
(p)in Schedule 6, paragraph 5 and Parts 7 and 8;
(q)in Schedule 10, Parts 1, 4 and 5;
(r)in Schedule 11, Part 2;
(s)in Schedule 13, Parts 1, 2 and 4.
(4)Where a provision of a Schedule comes into force in accordance with subsection (3)(p) to (s), the section to which that Schedule relates comes into force (so far as relating to that provision) at the same time.
(5)Part 3 of Schedule 1 comes into force on such day as the Welsh Ministers may by order made by statutory instrument appoint.
(6)Except as provided by subsections (1) to (5), the provisions of this Act come into force on such day as the Secretary of State may by order made by statutory instrument appoint.
(7)The Welsh Ministers may by order made by statutory instrument make such transitional, transitory or saving provision as they consider appropriate in connection with the coming into force of Part 3 of Schedule 1.
(8)The Secretary of State may by order made by statutory instrument make such transitional, transitory or saving provision as the Secretary of State considers appropriate in connection with the coming into force of any provision of this Act.
(9)Any power to make an order under subsections (5) to (8) includes power to make different provision for different purposes


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:22 am 
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I struggle to see how they can put in place the 3-year licensing section this year.

The new fees will need to be assessed, consulted on and advertised before they can come into place.

In local government nothing happens during the summer, so I suspect even if the Secretary of State said they will come in tomorrow, I doubt it will be this year before it actually happens.

And I think both sections will come in together, so that will possibly mean a delay to the cross border section.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:38 am 
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And I think both sections will come in together, so that will possibly mean a delay to the cross border section.


I like your optimism, but, previously hasn't licensing regulation and laws come in piecemeal.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:35 pm 
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I like your optimism, but, previously hasn't licensing regulation and laws come in piecemeal.

Who knows, but I think the reason I'm optimistic is I don't think the world will end via the cross border provisions in the Dereg Bill.

Down here elements of the trade are indeed in panic mode, but I think they are getting confused with the proposals from the Law Commission.

The Dereg Bill/Act states;

55ASub-contracting by operators

(1)A person licensed under section 55 who has in a controlled district accepted a booking for a private hire vehicle may arrange for another person to provide a vehicle to carry out the booking if—
(a)the other person is licensed under section 55 in respect of the same controlled district and the sub-contracted booking is accepted in that district;
(b)the other person is licensed under section 55 in respect of another controlled district and the sub-contracted booking is accepted in that district;
(c)the other person is a London PHV operator and the sub-contracted booking is accepted at an operating centre in London; or
(d)the other person accepts the sub-contracted booking in Scotland.


Highlighted and underlined is basically the new bit, that clause isn't going to be used by large call centers dishing out work direct to non local drivers.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:02 pm 
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ROYAL ASSENT
Mr Speaker: I have to acquaint the House that the House has been to the House of Peers where a Commission under the Great Seal was read, authorising the Royal Assent to the following Acts:
Supply and Appropriation (Anticipation and Adjustments) Act 2015
Finance Act 2015
International Development (Official Development Assistance Target) Act 2015
Mutuals’ Deferred Shares Act 2015
House of Lords (Expulsion and Suspension) Act 2015
Consumer Rights Act 2015
Specialist Printing Equipment and Materials (Offences) Act 2015
Self-build and Custom Housebuilding Act 2015
Lords Spiritual (Women) Act 2015
Armed Forces (Service Complaints and Financial Assistance) Act 2015
Deregulation Act 2015
Corporation Tax (Northern Ireland) Act 2015
Local Government (Review of Decisions) Act 2015
Control of Horses Act 2015
House of Commons Commission Act 2015
Recall of MPs Act 2015
Small Business, Enterprise and Employment Act 2015
Local Government (Religious etc. Observances) Act 2015
Health and Social Care (Safety and Quality) Act 2015
Health Service Commissioner for England (Complaint Handling) Act 2015
Modern Slavery Act 2015
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:04 pm 
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Thr Deregulation Bill did indeed get
Royal Assent yesterday. We now await the commencement date which may be as far away as
October or even longer.


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