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I find it ironic that Councillor Islam representing an Association of taxi drivers who very few of the Hackney Carriage drivers in Cardiff know anything about. never mind filling a petition to be handed in to the Council by him.


You could always ask to view the petition under the freedom of information act, just make sure Mr Michael Mouse hasn't signed alongside Mr D. Duck etc

Although at this stage I doubt if its of any relevence, unless put into the hands of Mr Cummings and his solicitors. Talking of which, I wonder if he's looked at this site, as some of the posts border on libelous :wink:

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There were a few letters to a Mr Shone during the January 03 meeting

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3. Councillor Islam - Request from Members of the Cardiff Taxi Drivers Association urging the County Council to issue unlimited Hackney Carriage plates, in order to avoid the city's taxi drivers being charged excessive amounts of rent by the individual fleet owners.

I find it ironic that Councillor Islam representing an Association of taxi drivers who very few of the Hackney Carriage drivers in Cardiff know anything about. never mind filling a petition to be handed in to the Council by him. Also i would like to point out that there is a belief that Councillor Islam once owned a Hackney Carriage plate, which he sold at the hight of their value, then worked as a PH driver before becoming a Councillor, do you think that there may be some hidden agenda.


I would have thought it was fairly obvious that a number of like-minded people probably got together and formed themselves into a pressure group and called themselves the Cardiff Taxi drivers association. They do have the right to do that you know?

Just because you don't know of them or you might not like what they did does not make them any less credible than any other group or Taxi association.

Perhaps they don't have a plate and would like one after all there were over 500 applicants for the six licenses, or do you think these 500 applicants were just after the plate value? Perhaps they were private hire drivers who just want the chance to do what other cabbies do in nearly 70% of country, such as ply for public hire.

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In 1998 they tried to issue 50 licenses, with only 27 of them being taken up.

It will be very interesting to see how many will be issued if they delimit.

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It is tottaly irrelevent whether i agree with what they did or do, I would have thought that if an association were to be created to represent the trade then as many members of that trade would have been contacted, as mentioned before i have been a taxi driver in the City for 15 years, so dont you think that people like myself would have been aproached to join such an association, or at the very least be asked to sign a petition. As for the 500 applicants a large amount of those were HC drivers like myself, this is because the Council sent out letters asking for any driver who has a badge & plate PH or HC if they wanted to be entered into the lottery draw for the chance of a plate, and if you already had a plate then you were sent two letters giving you two chances in the draw, so to say 500 applied is a bit misleading. As for plying for hire a large amount of them aready do that on Friday and Saturday nights anyway, plus during the week given the chance. In 1998 the criteria for a plate was that it could only go on a TX1, which if bought on HP would mean an initial outlay of approx '£26.000+' which equated to about £100 per week for 5 years, not many drivers were in a position to afford such an outlay, but since then all of the plates have been taken. With delimiting the Council propose to lower the criterea, so a lot more drivers would be in a position to aquire a plate, therefore flooding an already overworked customer base.

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It is tottaly irrelevent whether i agree with what they did or do, I would have thought that if an association were to be created to represent the trade then as many members of that trade would have been contacted,


Perhaps they represent likeminded people like other Taxi organisations? I wouldn't presuppose they harbour ambitions to represent the Trade, perhaps it is they who think the trade does not represent them?

The reason for submitting the petition was to get a Proprietor's license but I'm surprised the first time you heard about it was through this forum.

Just goes to show that TDO is nearly always first with the news but I suspect if you wait for the next issue of Taxitalk magazine you might be able to read the Glossy version, they are very adept at copying and pasting.

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You could be right there JD, but i suspect that most of those drivers are PH drivers who have sold their HC plate's and still want the benifits of public hire.

I will definitely agree with you on one thing, that TDO is first and on the ball, i came across this site while reseaching the taxi trade, and i can say this is the best and most Up-to-date taxi site on-line and is a credit to the designers and administrators. :oops:

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The complete text of the Cummings appeal is now avaialable on Balii.

http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/markup.cg ... method=all

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Greedy c***. :sad:

The rejection of the waiting list criteria was crucial to the decision to meet the additional allocations by lottery. The appellant's case was that there was a perfectly good waiting list that could have been used and that consideration should have been given to it. Obviously the waiting list option was something that was very much in the appellant's interest because he had control over the first eight at the top of the list.

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Greedy c***. :sad:

The rejection of the waiting list criteria was crucial to the decision to meet the additional allocations by lottery. The appellant's case was that there was a perfectly good waiting list that could have been used and that consideration should have been given to it. Obviously the waiting list option was something that was very much in the appellant's interest because he had control over the first eight at the top of the list.


lol he had control over the first 8 places. lol he certainly is a greedy so and so. Anyway he can have all the plates he likes now.

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I just thought I would mention that I have been informed Mr Cummings has applied for 35 licenses.

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I just thought I would mention that I have been informed Mr Cummings has applied for 35 licenses.

Now how funny would it be if they turned him down because of no SUD? :D

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I just thought I would mention that I have been informed Mr Cummings has applied for 35 licenses.

Now how funny would it be if they turned him down because of no SUD? :D


lol how funny would it be if Cardiff decided to increase the qaulity control of Hackney carriage drivers, by making them pass a stringent knowledge test and making sure they can all speak and understand the English language?

Mr Cummings will get his licenses because Cardiff have lifted numbers control. The committee meeting on the 13th September is just to inform councillors of what transpired in court. After that it is open season on plates and anyone who meets the criteria will be able to obtain one.

It just goes to show that one minute you can be in possession of a plate premium worth several thousand pounds, the next minute you have nothing.

That just about sums up the uncertainty of investing in a license plate.

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Every de-limiter/de-regulator advocate immediately flips to the other side on being issued a plate, all the arguements "for", convert to even stronger demands "Against". If you want a plate make the investment and buy one, just like buying any other business. De-limit/de-reg did not work for the buses, the railways etc., Areas without limits do no better than those with and in some cases the public get a poorer service following de-reg. See OFT report, there is not one example of an area getting a better service after de-reg. "Sussex" delight at each "fallen" area only show his childish envy, why does he crave a plate so much that he would rather see them all worthless than have anyone else have one of any value.
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