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Alex,
the transferring of plates wouldn`t be pointless as the plates are worth money(guys are paying £40to £50 per week at the moment and insurance and the car and running repairs etc,etc to hire illegally).
At present a Dundee operator who dies loses his licence,thus his widow has no income at all .This happened with a friend of mine who was killed in a motorcycle accident,he left three young children and his wife was left with a vehicle she could`nt use as she had to give up his licence therefore depriving her of an income.
If the operators were allowed to transfer plates there would be no hire plates and widow`s etc would be able to continue to earn a living or if they chose sell the licence on(under Council guidelines).

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theres no point allowing transfers in a city which is open as dundee is who will hand money over when they can get one for nothing ,also the council will have to set a date for all present hacks to change to wavs which will make it even less desirable, does anyone know of a city which runs both saloons and forced wavs on hackney plates?and how many times have transfers been made losers after the city was deregulated by either an individual applying to sherrif court for a plate or just the council opening the city ,villager would you pay for a plate right now and how much do you reckon there worth?

Scot,
as i said in one of my previous posts,the situation of hired plates will crop up again as Dundee Council will limit the amount of taxis again thus the hiring of plates will occur again.Would`nt it be more simpler if the toon was limited and those who wanted a licence could get one by transfer or puirchase,this would ensure that people like widowers or those existing operators in poor health etc could then pass on or sell their licence as they do in other areas.
I know of at least one Dundee operator who purchased his licence(£4,000 a lot of money at the time )`in the early 60`s, he was one of the first hack`s in Dundee, but if he dies now he can`t pass it on to family etc,i know you will say he`s had his money`s worth out of his licence but how may of the current licences paid for thier licences as a business and not just a fee to the Council.
Is it proper that the new licences can be put in corporate names yet existing operators who renew their licences every May cannot?.
Another point,existing Dundee operators complained about hired plates,now there are going to be more hacks on the road with the same faces driving them only they will have their names on the door instead of the hiree`s (is that a word) and there will be more of them as jockey`s will put on plates.
I stand by the right to transfer a licence and limit the amount of hack licences as the only way forward for Dundee.

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villager have you read todays paper?dundee football club is to change hands for a pound http://www.thecourier.co.uk/output/2003 ... 9518t0.asp
this is the sort of city we live in ,you mention that the hired plates are handiing 40 -50 pounds per week but this is because they have no choice
i have talked to a lot of hired plates in the last week and all have applied to run wavs,this is going to leave a pile of plates sitting doing nothing how much will they be worth then maybe less than dfc...

villager you use the word simpler but simpler for who?if you mean the council you are wrong the simplest solution for them would be total deregulation including saloons then all would be the same ,if your talking about people on the waiting list you are again wrong as they would have no chance as companies like 203020,stagecoach could out bid them, so i take it you are meaning from the ops point of view in which case you are right ,but the problem is nobody apart from the ops who already have plates would agree to this i certainly wont be paying anyone for a plate not now or ever...

Yes the plates are worth something now, due to the restricted numbers policy.

Surely if one goes, the other will follow.

Alex

That's ever so sad.

However that's also why there are hundreds of insurance companies, only too pleased to insure us.

Alex

But by restricting the numbers of vehicles, you are also restricting others from having a license, and they have families as well.

I don't think there is an easy solution, certainly not a painless one. But I think times are changing, so we will just have to wait and see.

Alex

So it seems that most of these plate holders in Dundee got it for nothing, and you want them to be able to sell them on to drivers who are kept out by the closed shop run but Dundee Council?

Obviously people would feel sympathetic to the plight of your friend's widow, but if she has an income from the trade, then this will presumably be at the expense of working drivers - so they are disadvantaged in that respect, and what happens if THEY die, what does their widow do??

And allowing sales is even worse - if your friend's widow was able to sell her license, and the purchaser then died, what is the purchaser's widow left with? Nothing - she'll have to sell the plate to pay of the debt incurred buying it.

And suppose your friend hadn't died and sold his plate to a driver, and the driver then died - his widow would be left with nothing, and your friend would have a big fat wodge in the bank, courtesy of the closed shop.

One good thing about Dundee seems to be that no one has paid big bucks for a plate, so no one will be left with big debts.

Now that there seems to be a level playing field let's hope it stays that way.

Dusty

It won't matter either way if the town stays open Mr Villager.

But in any case, the existing operators can now presumably swap thier license for a corporate one?

They might not want to now though!

Dusty

dusty every taxi driver in dundee knows who villager is talking about this man was the cream of the crop not only in taxi circles but everywhere
theres nothing he wouldnt do for anyone ,unfortunatly his name now appears regulary when issues like this appear but six years ago at a junction on the arbroath road one of our drivers who was doing extra hours to pay for a holiday for himself and his wife also lost his life yet his widow as you said recieved nothing
issuing her with the plate would have made a lot of difference to her financial position and i for one who has been waiting 10 years would have not objected to this ,but its the usual case lets pretend were doing it for the widows when were really doing it for ourself..villager if you really are for widows why not get a petision going for the widows of drivers ill gladly give my place on the list up unlike the rest...

villager ive just read a post which says you left dundee to move elsewhere you must be sick as a parrot a hack for nothing and a football team for a quid unlucky mate...

still no news from the council regarding 203020 applications in fact no multiple applications have been submitted despite allegations from the fraternity, interesting post slagging the marrs on the dfc website the editors name seems familiar..

http://www.thedees.co.uk/

The nail firmly hit on it's head.

Scot, sick as a parrot,nae lad still got Dundee plate, was a director at dens many moons ago,left Dundee cause i knew what was round the corner,walked away with a load o dough and now live the peaceful life,did the same with taxi office,to much bother and wasn`t getting any younger,rather leave it all to you young lads.
By the way if there is nae money in Dundee taxiing why are all these guys putting on vehicles,seems silly to me.
By the way no.2, existing operators can`t apply for corporate licences, although some have got away with it in the past.

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