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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:05 am 
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HIV-positive man slams Nigel Farage for 'deeply offensive' remarks



‘HIV-positive migrants do not come to UK for free treatment but a better life’

Nigel Farage’s decision to use the TV debate to attack the number of foreign nationals receiving treatment for HIV has been attacked as “deeply offensive” by campaigners – including a Nigerian man whose life is being prolonged by the NHS.

Bisi Alimi, 40, was diagnosed with HIV in 2004 but was unable to access treatment in Nigeria for fear of being revealed to be a homosexual. When he was outed in 2007 he came to the UK.

Mr Alimi said his “blood was still boiling” over the Ukip leader’s comments on health tourism. Mr Farage claimed that of the 7,000 cases of HIV diagnosed every year, 60 per cent were not British-born. Last night Ukip sources claimed the attack was carefully planned to fire up the party’s core vote, under a strategy dubbed “shock and awful”. Mr Farage also planned to discuss the number of migrants with TB, The Daily Telegraph reported.

Speaking to The Independent, Mr Alimi said the majority of people with HIV who come to the UK would have no idea they were entitled to free treatment for their condition.

Nigel Farage claimed that 60% of HIV cases diagnosed in the UK were not British-born (Getty Images) Nigel Farage claimed that 60% of HIV cases diagnosed in the UK were not British-born (Getty Images)
“If there are more people with HIV infection coming from outside the UK, those people are not coming into this country because they want to take treatment. These are people, who happen to be HIV positive, who want a better life for themselves.

“When I came to this country in 2007 I was running away from being killed. I love my country and I want to make change at home, but there was an attempt on my life. I thought, ‘If I’m going to stay alive I’ve got to leave my country.’ I had no idea that I could claim asylum, and that I could have access to treatment.”

Until he came to the UK, Mr Alimi lived with HIV without treatment for three years. “I never talked about my disease. I covered it up because of fear. I knew that if I received treatment people would know about my sexuality,” he said. “Being told [in the UK] that I could be in treatment without stigma has changed my life.”

He warned that Mr Farage was encouraging a culture in which the NHS, a public service which “keeps this country together”, could be undermined. “That poor people and rich people can access the same kind of healthcare together is something that British people should be proud of,” he said.

Politicians of all parties condemned the Ukip leader’s remarks. Ed Miliband tweeted: “He should be ashamed”. George Osborne, the Chancellor, said he would not “dignify” the claims with a response. Douglas Carswell, Ukip’s first MP, opposed his party leader’s views, but said he agreed that “our health service should not be an international health service.”

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If they don't come for free treatment why are they here; do they go back after their treatment?


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:58 am 
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If they don't come for free treatment why are they here; do they go back after their treatment?


Im sure a few of them will either stay here and buy a PC, Learn the basics then send out millions of Scam emails and rip us off or they'll return home and send out Millions of Scam emails from a internet bar until they have scammed enough dosh out of us to migrate here off the proceeds of their ill gotten gains.

Nige is right, sadly the other trendy Poiliticians choose not to admit to the truth and worse still bury their heads in the sand and go against the views of the majority of their electorate. One day soon though the majority of their electorate will be the very migrants they are letting in by the millions and it'll be to late to do anything about it as we ethnic Brits will be in the minority as will be white british MPs .


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:00 am 
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as will be white british MPs


what about the brown British MP's?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:02 am 
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was diagnosed with HIV in 2004 but was unable to access treatment in Nigeria for fear of being revealed to be a homosexual. When he was outed in 2007 he came to the UK.


Aye Right..how convenient, where have we heard that one before as a wheeze to stay in the country....Outing them selves as Homosexuals to be allowed to stay in the UK to avoid persecution. :roll:


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:03 am 
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as will be white british MPs


what about the brown British MP's?


I rest my case..


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Nige is right, sadly the other trendy Poiliticians choose not to admit to the truth and worse still bury their heads in the sand and go against the views of the majority of their electorate. One day soon though the majority of their electorate will be the very migrants they are letting in by the millions and it'll be to late to do anything about it as we ethnic Brits will be in the minority as will be white british MPs .



We'll be worse off than the African countries they came from.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:14 am 
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I rest my case..


You maybe should, its looking tired

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:21 am 
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bloodnock wrote:

I rest my case..


You maybe should, its looking tired


Hey..you posted the article..what results did you expect, was I to send him a get well at our expense card, a Bunch of Chrysanthemums and box of Nestles Black Magic Chocolates. :shock:


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I rest my case..


You maybe should, its looking tired


Hey..you posted the article..what results did you expect, was I to send him a get well at our expense card, a Bunch of Chrysanthemums and box of Nestles Black Magic Chocolates. :shock:



There's an awful lot of people that were born here - whose parents are from foreign shores - do these people not count?

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There's an awful lot of people that were born here - whose parents are from foreign shores - do these people not count?


I'm not denying that or denying those already here what they are entitled to, but as more and more arrive here your reasoning becomes weaker as those 4 Million migrants that have arrived here since Nulabour and the EU opened the floodgates start to have second generation children, often they tend to have larger and extended families that also add to the burden of costs on our country.

It's dead simple, We can barely feed ourselves, we are up to our eyes and our childres eyes in Debt, yet we are letting in and trying to look after all and sundry at such an alarming rate that it Just cannot go on indefinitely. Personally I'm not a racist but I do care passionately as to how much more this little Island of ours can absorb before it collapses completely under the Tsuanimi of migration that is hitting us.

There are only Two options, we stop such mass migration to our shores or we turn ourselves into the same third world country that these migrants seek to escape, the latter will help no one, White, Black, Brown Yellow or Green..It'll have us living in famine.


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There's an awful lot of people that were born here - whose parents are from foreign shores - do these people not count?


I'm not denying that or denying those already here what they are entitled to, but as more and more arrive here your reasoning becomes weaker as those 4 Million migrants that have arrived here since Nulabour and the EU opened the floodgates start to have second generation children, often they tend to have larger and extended families that also add to the burden of costs on our country.

It's dead simple, We can barely feed ourselves, we are up to our eyes and our childres eyes in Debt, yet we are letting in and trying to look after all and sundry at such an alarming rate that it Just cannot go on indefinitely. Personally I'm not a racist but I do care passionately as to how much more this little Island of ours can absorb before it collapses completely under the Tsuanimi of migration that is hitting us.

There are only Two options, we stop such mass migration to our shores or we turn ourselves into the same third world country that these migrants seek to escape, the latter will help no one, White, Black, Brown Yellow or Green..It'll have us living in famine.


Don't forget about them sending Child Tax Credits and Child Support back home to their families. Also don't forget that Romanian gypo on the TV who was thanking England for his Tax Credits so he could build a house back in Romania for his wife and children.


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Nidge2 wrote:
If they don't come for free treatment why are they here; do they go back after their treatment?


Isn't HIV treatment for life?

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If they don't come for free treatment why are they here; do they go back after their treatment?


Isn't HIV treatment for life?


No..just until you die.


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bloodnock wrote:
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If they don't come for free treatment why are they here; do they go back after their treatment?


Isn't HIV treatment for life?


No..just until you die.


There's a difference? :lol:

The only way they could go back after their treatment would be in a box. :shock: The question was therefore a bit stupid. #-o

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