Criminal record checks BANNED on foreign murderers / rapists

captain cab · **Posted:** Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:22 pm

Criminal record checks BANNED on foreign murderers and rapists who want to be minicab drivers if they have applied for asylum or refugees status

Asylum seekers and refugees applying to be cab drivers are not checked

Drivers usually undergo criminal records checks for the public's safety

Those from outside the EU must provide reference from their home nation

But refugees and asylum seekers are exempt and may be serious criminals

Asylum seekers and refugees applying to be minicab drivers are exempt from criminal records checks, potentially allowing murderers and rapists to get behind the wheel.

Rules laid down by Transport for London (TfL) mean refugees and those applying for asylum do not have to reveal whether they have a criminal history when trying to become a cab driver.

The legal loophole in an official application document on 'private hire driver licensing' says people coming to Britain will not be required to have their criminal convictions checked.

The form, seen by the Daily Express, states: 'With regards to overseas criminal records checks, no such checks will be made in respect of those applicants who declare that they are in possession of or who have applied for refugee or asylum status.'

Everyone else who applies for a cab licence must undergo criminal records checks. Those from outside the EU who have spent more than three months abroad over the last three years have to provide a 'letter of good conduct' from their home country.

This usually requires their country of origin to give a reference to the Home Office, revealing whether the applicant has a criminal history.

But asylum seekers and refugees are exempt from this too, according to a second document.

A TfL guide on taxi and private hire applications states: 'Any applicant who has been granted or is awaiting a decision to be granted asylum/refugee status will not be required to produce a Certificate of Good Conduct from the country he is claiming asylum from.'

Campaigners called for a change in the guidelines, calling on all minicab drivers to undergo thorough criminal checks.

Tory MP Nick de Bois said: 'They should not be offering licences to those they can't check on. They could be putting vulnerable members of the public in the hands of thieves, murderers and rapists. It beggars belief.'

Helen Chapman, manager of London taxi and private hire at TfL, said: 'All applicants for a Taxi or Private Hire drivers licence are required to undertake an enhanced Disclosure and Barring Service check which is carried out by the Home Office.

'Any applicant that has lived in a country other than the UK for more than three months within the last three years is also required to produce a Certificate of Good Conduct from the relevant country.

'We recognise this may not be possible if an applicant is granted asylum or refugee status and, where applicable, these applicants will be required to provide a Certificate of Good Conduct from any other country of residence within the last three years. They will also be required to provide evidence of their Certificate of Registration or a letter from the Border and Immigration Agency.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z3WXDn31xa

bloodnock · **Joined:** Thu May 03, 2007 8:15 pm **Posts:** 9170

Nidge.Nidge..you read this? Nidge, Nidge!!

captain cab · **Posted:** Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:39 pm

bloodnock wrote:

Nidge.Nidge..you read this? Nidge, Nidge!!

read it? - I think he wrote it

captain cab · **Posted:** Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:43 pm

Quote:

'All applicants for a Taxi or Private Hire drivers licence are required to undertake an enhanced Disclosure and Barring Service check which is carried out by the Home Office.

No they're not Helen.

They're done by the Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS), I suggest you read up - https://www.gov.uk/government/organisat ... vice/about

captain cab · **Posted:** Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:53 pm

Cant see how the certificate of good conduct could possibly work for an asylum seeker anyway - presumably they've left the country because they were being persecuted?

toots · **Posted:** Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:12 pm

The simple solution, which will never happen, is for operators to ask for a DBS. That would at least in part help to keep the public safe from rapists and murderers, well as much as anything can I guess.

captain cab · **Posted:** Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:14 pm

toots wrote:

The simple solution, which will never happen, is for operators to ask for a DBS. That would at least in part help to keep the public safe from rapists and murderers, well as much as anything can I guess.

the simple solution is for every driver to be fluent in English and to have resided in this country for at least 5 years.

toots · **Posted:** Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:16 pm

captain cab wrote:

toots wrote:

The simple solution, which will never happen, is for operators to ask for a DBS. That would at least in part help to keep the public safe from rapists and murderers, well as much as anything can I guess.

the simple solution is for every driver to be fluent in English and to have resided in this country for at least 5 years.

That's not simple that involves changing the rules :wink:

captain cab · **Posted:** Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:19 pm

toots wrote:

That's not simple that involves changing the rules :wink:

what rules?

toots · **Posted:** Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:27 pm

captain cab wrote:

toots wrote:

That's not simple that involves changing the rules :wink:

what rules?

The ones the council make up as they go, they will of course require at least 6 months to sit and think about it :roll:

captain cab · **Posted:** Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:29 pm

toots wrote:

The ones the council make up as they go, they will of course require at least 6 months to sit and think about it :roll:

ahh one meeting then

toots · **Posted:** Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:38 pm

captain cab wrote:

toots wrote:

The ones the council make up as they go, they will of course require at least 6 months to sit and think about it :roll:

ahh one meeting then

It may be one meeting to you, but, that one meeting takes a lot of preparation and somebody has to raise a purchase order so they can have biscuits ffs

captain cab · **Posted:** Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:45 pm

toots wrote:

It may be one meeting to you, but, that one meeting takes a lot of preparation and somebody has to raise a purchase order so they can have biscuits ffs

Of course the Daily Express are shouting about this - but in Lincoln they've been issuing asylum seekers badges without any DBS or Certificate of good conduct for ages :roll:

toots · **Posted:** Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:47 pm

captain cab wrote:

toots wrote:

It may be one meeting to you, but, that one meeting takes a lot of preparation and somebody has to raise a purchase order so they can have biscuits ffs

Of course the Daily Express are Sh****ing about this - but in Lincoln they've been issuing asylum seekers badges without any DBS or Certificate of good conduct for ages :roll:

Well personally as an operator I wouldn't allow anybody on my system without a DBS

captain cab · **Posted:** Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:51 pm

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