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 Post subject: TX2 steering judder.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:53 pm 
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Cab failed test today.


There is a judder come from steering the cab in any direction. It's more notchey than a judder. When I turn the steering with the engine on, I get a prominent notchey and loud grinding noise through the wheel. When the engine is off I can feel the roughness.

Anyone have any ideas?

I think it might be the centre bearing??


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 Post subject: Re: TX2 steering judder.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:18 pm 
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Robin814 wrote:
Cab failed test today.


There is a judder come from steering the cab in any direction. It's more notchey than a judder. When I turn the steering with the engine on, I get a prominent notchey and loud grinding noise through the wheel. When the engine is off I can feel the roughness.

Anyone have any ideas?

I think it might be the centre bearing??

Top Balljoint

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 Post subject: Re: TX2 steering judder.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:52 am 
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Thanks for the reply Mr T.

Took Top ball joints off their knuckles and swung the steering round with them both disconnected and still the shimmy is still there :sad:

Do you think the box is away or needs bled?


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 Post subject: Re: TX2 steering judder.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:33 am 
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Robin814 wrote:
Thanks for the reply Mr T.

Took Top ball joints off their knuckles and swung the steering round with them both disconnected and still the shimmy is still there :sad:

Do you think the box is away or needs bled?

What is shimmy??

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 Post subject: Re: TX2 steering judder.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:44 am 
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Robin814 wrote:
Thanks for the reply Mr T.

Took Top ball joints off their knuckles and swung the steering round with them both disconnected and still the shimmy is still there :sad:

Do you think the box is away or needs bled?

Do you mean track rod ends

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 Post subject: Re: TX2 steering judder.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 11:18 am 
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Took the top balljoint that sits in the top arm out of the hub and spun it on the bottom ball joints with all the track rods connected. Still there.

Shimmy is that every time I turn it lock to lock I get a juddering through the wheel and the hub. Even with the motor jacked up and the wheels off.


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 Post subject: Re: TX2 steering judder.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:07 pm 
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Does it have power steering? If so you could have a fluid leak. If not I don't know.

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 Post subject: Re: TX2 steering judder.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:18 pm 
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Top ball joints.......have a habit of seizing up...making steering tight and noisy.
Idler arm....seizes......making steering tight and non-returning..
collapsible steering link arm.....excessive play..
steering judder.....loss of fluid..or..faulty pump..or leaks on pipes or fanbelt loose

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 Post subject: Re: TX2 steering judder.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 3:33 pm 
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Thanks guys.

I am going to give the box a bleed and see how i get on. If its still there then its off to the garage.

It also failed on the idler arm having excessive play. Bought a new and fitted it. Took it back to the cab office and it failed again with the same, on a brand new part! :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: TX2 steering judder.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 7:06 pm 
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Sure I'm stating the obvious but are the belts tight,power steering and fan ? Does it have any "blank spots " in the steering ? By what your describing I'd guess at the steering box on its way out .


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 Post subject: Re: TX2 steering judder.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:31 pm 
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blackpool wrote:
Sure I'm stating the obvious but are the belts tight,power steering and fan ? Does it have any "blank spots " in the steering ? By what your describing I'd guess at the steering box on its way out .

It would be nice to see what garage say's

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 Post subject: Re: TX2 steering judder.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:29 am 
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Got a few compliance stuff done in the meantime.

Handbrake is now bedded in after new drums, shoes, cable and adjusters. Remind me never to change them on the run up to a test. Idler arm is all ok now and fitted.

It's booked in tomorrow to find the judder and an oil leak from the oil cooler area, there's a sheared bolt in there, I'm not confident drilling about near the block etc.

I'll let you all know what it is that's causing the judder.

Thanks for all your help by the way.


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 Post subject: Re: TX2 steering judder.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:31 am 
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By the way. Bled the box and some air came out. Not a lot and still not a difference.


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 Post subject: Re: TX2 steering judder.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:43 am 
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Robin814 wrote:
By the way. Bled the box and some air came out. Not a lot and still not a difference.

They are self bleeding.

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 Post subject: Re: TX2 steering judder.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:20 pm 
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Just out of curiosity what's the bleed nipple for then?


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