Taxi Driver Online

Taxi driver in appeals bid



THE first appeal against a new-style penalty points system for taxi drivers will be heard by North Lincolnshire Council this week.

A driver will put his case to the licensing (miscellaneous) sub committee today (April 16).

The penalty points system was introduced by the local authority to deal with Hackney carriage and private hire drivers, proprietors and operators who commit offences or breach their licence conditions.

A council spokeswoman said: "Before the adoption of the scheme, the only option would be to ether prosecute (criminal offences) or remove a person's livelihood (breach of conditions or criminal offence) or do nothing.

"In some cases those options are either not enough or too much.

"Therefore the points system was devised to provide a middle ground.

"It acts as a warning, but does not cost the driver financially, which a prosecution could and it means that doing nothing won't be an issue.

"The points are on the licence for a limited time after which they are removed. In addition, points will only be attached following an investigation and we will act in a reasonable way when attaching them.

"Should a driver be aggrieved then there will be an appeals process in place."


Read more: http://www.scunthorpetelegraph.co.uk/Ta ... z3XTW70hmX

_________________
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Quote:

A council spokeswoman said: "Before the adoption of the scheme, the only option would be to ether prosecute (criminal offences) or remove a person's livelihood (breach of conditions or criminal offence) or do nothing.

"In some cases those options are either not enough or too much.

"Therefore the points system was devised to provide a middle ground.

and that ladies and gentlemen - is pure b*llsh*t - and the reason local authorities are not fit for purpose

_________________
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

If he was properly represented whats the problem pretty sure i would run rings round the Council he he.

so YOUVE slagged of that couNcil policy whats yer alternative proposal, and how do we replace Councils iE with WHAT

_________________
All posts by this contributor are made in a strictly personal capacity

I AM PROUD TO BE A CITIZEN NOBODY'S SUBJECT http://www.republic.org.u

F88K EM ALL WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND

BOOZE BOOZE BOOZE

they don't need a points system - its bullsh*t - its council officers sitting in a room making decisions with virtually no appeals procedure - because they're imaginary points. The entire thing is an illusion.

If a driver is being reprimanded he should have an appeals process - the chances are the driver will accept the points because he would rather accept them than face a committee or take the time off work.

Whats wrong with a verbal warning, a written warning, an appearance in front of a council panel.

The council come across as saying there's no alternative but the points system - of course there is - its just they are sh*thouses.

An alternative licensing system? Yes OK how about a VOSA style body - they couldn't be any worse than the bunch of morons running the licensing system in certain areas could they.

_________________
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Other than the last para all you raise would be a simple job for any competent Union official ffs its childs play.

vosa never inspired me and their difficult to influence, local councils easy in comparison given Union, politically active cabby's .............oops no chance of that their too fekking thick ...............so they get mullerd serves them right some might say ............................ie MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

_________________
All posts by this contributor are made in a strictly personal capacity

I AM PROUD TO BE A CITIZEN NOBODY'S SUBJECT http://www.republic.org.u

F88K EM ALL WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND

BOOZE BOOZE BOOZE

I said like vosa - a national enforcement agency specifically for taxis and PH - keep the licensing to local authority areas without the council running licensing

_________________
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

I'M GOING ON THE PI$$

_________________
All posts by this contributor are made in a strictly personal capacity

I AM PROUD TO BE A CITIZEN NOBODY'S SUBJECT http://www.republic.org.u

F88K EM ALL WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND

BOOZE BOOZE BOOZE

Thought you were already on it. Tory/ labour coalition. Remember where you heard it first.

_________________
Former taxi driver

Points systems, like them or loathe them they seem to be legal. I have advised drivers here to appeal every point they get because it isn't the last 3 points that will cost you your badge, it is the ones before. You may get 3 lots of 3 points over a few months for a dirty car but then you may get 6 points for refusing a fare and you will quite likely lose that appeal but because you have already accepted 9 points you will be over the threshold for further action. Apart from that if every driver appeals every point it may take up so much of the Councillors time that they may bin the system.

_________________
Grandad,

Good point

good advice

_________________
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

A bit like "cautions" from the council then ? Id never exept one willingly.

and that too is a sound position

_________________
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

iTS AN AMATEURS STUPID ADVICE YOU CONTEST EVERY POINT IF YOUR INNOCENT WITH PROFESSIONAL ASSISTANCE IE A UNION OFFICIAL .....GRRRR THEN APPEAL IF YOU LOSE FFS WITH PROFESSIONAL ASSISTANCE IE A UNION OFFICIAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!REMEMBER YOU CANT BE TRIED AND PENALISED IN YOUR ABSENCE ........GIVEN YOUVE BEEN ALLOWED APPROPRIATE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND BE THERE ALWAYS .................JUST REFUSE TO ATTEND YOU CAN BE DONE ...................CONTEST EVERY POINT IF YOUR INNOCENT ALWAYS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ITS YOUR LIVLIHOOD AT STAKE FFFFFFFFFFFFFFSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

BIN THE SYSTEM NO FFS EXPLOIT IT .....................ARE YOU REALLY THAT GORMLESS .............CONTINOUS DEBATE WITH COUNCILLORS ON CAB DRIVING ISSUES VIA THEIR OFFICERS VINDICTIVE ATTACKS UPON CAB DRIVERS WILL BE IMMENSELY VALUABLE TO THE INDUSTRY....................ITS ANOTHER AVENUE OF DEBATE WITH COUNCILLORS WHERE YOU WILL EDUCATE THEM ......................EXPLOIT IT FFS IT AINT ROCKET SCIENCE

_________________
All posts by this contributor are made in a strictly personal capacity

I AM PROUD TO BE A CITIZEN NOBODY'S SUBJECT http://www.republic.org.u

F88K EM ALL WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND

BOOZE BOOZE BOOZE

stop shouting ffs

_________________
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Points systems, like them or loathe them they seem to be legal. I have advised drivers here to appeal every point they get because it isn't the last 3 points that will cost you your badge, it is the ones before. You may get 3 lots of 3 points over a few months for a dirty car but then you may get 6 points for refusing a fare and you will quite likely lose that appeal but because you have already accepted 9 points you will be over the threshold for further action. Apart from that if every driver appeals every point it may take up so much of the Councillors time that they may bin the system.[/quote]

Good point

good advice [/quote]

iTS AN AMATEURS STUPID ADVICE YOU CONTEST EVERY POINT IF YOUR INNOCENT WITH PROFESSIONAL ASSISTANCE IE A UNION OFFICIAL .....GRRRR THEN APPEAL IF YOU LOSE FFS WITH PROFESSIONAL ASSISTANCE IE A UNION OFFICIAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!REMEMBER YOU CANT BE TRIED AND PENALISED IN YOUR ABSENCE ........GIVEN YOUVE BEEN ALLOWED APPROPRIATE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND .................JUST REFUSE TO ATTEND YOU CAN BE DONE ...................CONTEST EVERY POINT IF YOUR INNOCENT ALWAYS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ITS YOUR LIVLIHOOD AT STAKE FFFFFFFFFFFFFFSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

BIN THE SYSTEM NO FFS EXPLOIT IT .....................ARE YOU REALLY THAT GORMLESS .............CONTINOUS DEBATE WITH COUNCILLORS ON CAB DRIVING ISSUES VIA THEIR OFFICERS VINDICTIVE ATTACKS UPON CAB DRIVERS WILL BE IMMENSELY VALUABLE TO THE INDUSTRY....................ITS ANOTHER AVENUE OF DEBATE WITH COUNCILLORS WHERE YOU WILL EDUCATE THEM ......................EXPLOIT IT FFS IT AINT ROCKET SCIENCE [/quote]

stop Sh****ing ffs[/quote]

WTF YOU ON ABOUT

_________________
All posts by this contributor are made in a strictly personal capacity

I AM PROUD TO BE A CITIZEN NOBODY'S SUBJECT http://www.republic.org.u

F88K EM ALL WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND

BOOZE BOOZE BOOZE