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Ph numbers in Edinburgh 778 as stated by RealCabforce Ph plate No 815 passed me on Friday night. It seems the actual Ph figures and plate numbers don't correspond with each other, or do they?


What says you RealCabforce?


By the way I would back you on quality control if that's the way you wanted to go, no problem there. :wink:


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She qualified as a solicitor in 1978 and was appointed a Sheriff on 4th May 2000. Her husband David Mackie is also a Sheriff. He was appointed as a part-time Sheriff in June 2001 and made full-time on 4th December 2001.
What are you trying to prove here?


Thank you for that information.

I found a link, which was quite helpful but it only mentions that she practiced as a solicitor. It would seem Scotland does not have a problem elavating Solicitors to the post of Sheriff. I find that quite remarkable, I would have expected a higher standard than that.

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/news/2000/05/se1265.asp

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Ph numbers in Edinburgh 778 as stated by RealCabforce Ph plate No 815 passed me on Friday night. It seems the actual Ph figures and plate numbers don't correspond with each other, or do they?


What says you RealCabforce?


By the way I would back you on quality control if that's the way you wanted to go, no problem there. :wink:


By the same token, have you seen taxi plate 1271 - because it's out there too. For some reason, since the council took the licensing work inhouse, delays occur in the re-issue of surrendered plates and thus there are gaps in the numbers - taxi and PH.

Steps are apparently afoot to take up the issue of PH quality and other associated issues with the council. I'm told to watch www.fastblacks.com for news of this - but I won't hold my breath, it's probably another damp squib!!.


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iam a PH driver in edinbirgh new to the trade and cant get over the attitude of some of the black cab trade towards the PH trade iam making a living like you

last wk i almost hit a black cab side on as he pulled in front of me. yes b4 you ask i had right of way. what the hell was he doing my passanger almost filled his pants and so did his passanger as i had to avoid a collision talk about a professional there was no need for it as i passed by the t*** he smiled WHY!!!!

iam aware that only a small % of the black cab trade here act like that and most i have talked to are ok and i have no problems with them at all. i have stopped to help out a Black cab boy who was having a wee bit o trouble with a idiot and would have backed him up if it had come to it
we are all doing the same job apart from a few diffs and they are not in fav of the PH driver in my view.

PH numbers will be restricted in time iam sure and to increase the black cab numbers will just cause more problems for black trade and for the PH trade in my view

and yes plate numbers for PH jump about as my mate and me both put cars on the road with in 7 days fo each other and there was about a 700ish dif in our plate numbers


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PH numbers will be restricted in time iam sure and to increase the black cab numbers will just cause more problems for black trade and for the PH trade in my view

Mr Chipper it will never happen. :shock:

PH can operate anywhere, in fact I could pick up a booked job in your area, and it would be entirely legal. :D

So even if Scots law was changed, and PH restricted, some bright spark would just license 100's of Sussex PHs.

And do you really want 100s of me up there. :wink:

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PH can operate anywhere, in fact I could pick up a booked job in your area, and it would be entirely legal. :D

So even if Scots law was changed, and PH restricted, some bright spark would just license 100's of Sussex PHs.

And do you really want 100s of me up there. :wink:


Oh how wrong you are. Experts on Scots law now?
Yes you could pick up here but only if you were in your own area when you got the job or were here returning to your own area. Under no circumstances could you legally operate totally within Edinburgh - unless it was part of an existing hire of more than 24 hour duration.
Simple unequivocal F A C T!
Should you wish to try the experiment do let us know and we will make the necessary arrangements for your arrest, incarceration and subsequent castration :shock: :shock: :shock:
Precedent was set when you lot did it to Willie Wallace when he tried to pick up near Tower Bridge eusasmiles.zip eusasmiles.zip eusasmiles.zip


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Oh how wrong you are. Experts on Scots law now?

Doesn't it say something right at the end of the act about the act not applying to licensed cars south of the border? :wink:

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RealCabforce wrote:
Yes you could pick up here but only if you were in your own area when you got the job or were here returning to your own area. Under no circumstances could you legally operate totally within Edinburgh - unless it was part of an existing hire of more than 24 hour duration.
Simple unequivocal F A C T!

Thanks for that simple amswer, now tell me where in the act it says that? :?

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Sussex wrote:

PH can operate anywhere, in fact I could pick up a booked job in your area, and it would be entirely legal. :D

So even if Scots law was changed, and PH restricted, some bright spark would just license 100's of Sussex PHs.

And do you really want 100s of me up there. :wink:


Oh how wrong you are. Experts on Scots law now?
Yes you could pick up here but only if you were in your own area when you got the job or were here returning to your own area. Under no circumstances could you legally operate totally within Edinburgh - unless it was part of an existing hire of more than 24 hour duration.
Simple unequivocal F A C T!
Should you wish to try the experiment do let us know and we will make the necessary arrangements for your arrest, incarceration and subsequent castration :shock: :shock: :shock:
Precedent was set when you lot did it to Willie Wallace when he tried to pick up near Tower Bridge eusasmiles.zip eusasmiles.zip eusasmiles.zip



I know taxi drivers from East Lothian who come up town and sit outside clubs waiting to get a call from their control to pick someone up. If they have any problem with pre-booked jobs they just tell the customer to call the company to keep them in the clear.

Simple unequivocal fact.

Not much point in hanging around Tranent or Haddington when all the work is up the town


I would imagin it being the same for Ph/Taxis from other areas around Edinburgh as well.
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Oh how wrong you are. Experts on Scots law now?

Doesn't it say something right at the end of the act about the act not applying to licensed cars south of the border? :wink:

In this case the act would apply to you as an offender - being a foreigner doesn't give you exemption from the law (at least in this case!!!)


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I know taxi drivers from East Lothian who come up town and sit outside clubs waiting to get a call from their control to pick someone up. If they have any problem with pre-booked jobs they just tell the customer to call the company to keep them in the clear.

Simple unequivocal fact.

Not much point in hanging around Tranent or Haddington when all the work is up the town


I would imagin it being the same for Ph/Taxis from other areas around Edinburgh as well.
:-|


Yeah yeah, we all know what goes on but that doesn't make it legal.
Enforcement (or the lack of it) is the REAL problem.


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Oh how wrong you are. Experts on Scots law now?
Yes you could pick up here but only if you were in your own area when you got the job or were here returning to your own area.


For the time being I can't be bothered looking up anymore acts of Parliament so will you do me a favour Real Cabby and tell me why a person can't undertake cross border hiring?

There is case law on this but I would rather leave it to you to explain because you seem to have all the answers.

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Oh how wrong you are. Experts on Scots law now?
Yes you could pick up here but only if you were in your own area when you got the job or were here returning to your own area.


For the time being I can't be bothered looking up anymore acts of Parliament so will you do me a favour Real Cabby and tell me why a person can't undertake cross border hiring?

There is case law on this but I would rather leave it to you to explain because you seem to have all the answers.

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Thank goodness for that, no more reams of pointless text from past legal cases, could it be JD? that he!! (realcabforce) just might be right?

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Oh how wrong you are. Experts on Scots law now?
Yes you could pick up here but only if you were in your own area when you got the job or were here returning to your own area.


For the time being I can't be bothered looking up anymore acts of Parliament so will you do me a favour Real Cabby and tell me why a person can't undertake cross border hiring?

There is case law on this but I would rather leave it to you to explain because you seem to have all the answers.

Regards

JD


Thank goodness for that, no more reams of pointless text from past legal cases, could it be JD? that he!! (realcabforce) just might be right?


I don't know if he "could" be right, but what if he is wrong? Would it mean he was talking through his azz? We try to encourage people on TDO to try and get their facts right before they make emphatic statements. It really isn't hard to do.

I notice you said, "could it be" that he is right? I assume by that you don't know if he is right or wrong? Can we then take it that you are another who is not familiar with the case law that Mr Cab Force undoubtedly forgot to mention? If that be the case rather than desist from posting any more Transcripts perhaps you might benefit if I post more?

What if Mr Cab force cannot produce the goods? Should the trade standstill because he cannot prove his point? Are we supposed to imitate sheep and follow blindly the doctrine of Mr Cab force? What would be your reaction if the statement by Mr Cab Force were proven to be a complete load of Tosh? Perhaps you should answer the points for him? You have done that on at least one other occasion, or is legislation not your forte?

I was always under the impression that you and he were one of the same?

I've already said there is existing case law on cross border hiring, whether or not it substantiates his emphatic statement is another matter but he said it, so I presume he knows what he is talking about. All he or you have to do is prove it.

As far as case transcripts are concerned they may not be of importance to you but they may be to somebody else. The vast majority of cases I post cannot be found on the Internet.

Those people who are actually interested in the Taxi Trade might be grateful for the opportunity to be able to copy and read these transcripts. You have the opportunity to ignore them but that is your prerogative.

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I think I'm still waiting to see the legal reasons why I can't pick up a radio job in Edinburgh.

And if I can pick up a radio job in Edinburgh, then why can't hundreds of me's also pick up radio work in Edinburgh? :-k

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