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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:25 pm 
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Hello there, I've been working for a nursing agency for the last few years and my income tax and n.i is taken care of via p.a.y.e, now things have been a bit quiet of late and i've been doing some research into the taxi business for the last few weeks in view of doing both(at least for a while). My question is, how do i go about paying my self employed n.i stamp if im already paying for it with my nursing job? What is the procedure?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:44 pm 
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Noobie72 wrote:
Hello there, I've been working for a nursing agency for the last few years and my income tax and n.i is taken care of via p.a.y.e, now things have been a bit quiet of late and i've been doing some research into the taxi business for the last few weeks in view of doing both(at least for a while). My question is, how do i go about paying my self employed n.i stamp if im already paying for it with my nursing job? What is the procedure?

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Just guessing but if your already paying class 1 contributions, I suspect you won't have to pay class 2.
Just class 4 via your tax return.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:40 pm 
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Thank you for your reply, i'm not very savvy about such things so i'll give the .gov helpline a call next week.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:29 pm 
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Plenty of people. Me included, think that working both jobs is a good idea.


If I had of been stubborn and not listened to a few good lads on here. I would be burned out and buried by now.

Take one or the other mate. This is a hard slog at times with many obstacles occurring every week or so.

Not putting you off. Just applying some basic advice your way.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:04 pm 
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Working for a last minute nursing agency(as a healthcare assistant) has been fantastic over the last two years (£30k pa) but sometimes i can waste five or six hours at home waiting for a shift to come in and it doesn't. This has been fine over the last six years as aside from a bit of dating i'm a solitude kind of guy but essentially i do feel i have put my life on hold. Anyhoo, i came back from my first proper holiday in eight years(Tenerife) about two weeks ago and haven't worked since. I've had quiet patches before but nothing like this.

I know i won't earn the same money if im renting a car etc but it's still better than returning to the NHS and after six months or so I may invest my savings into buying a cab. I still have 25 years of work ahead of me and don't think i can continue to do healthcare for that length of time, too much verbal and physical abuse from confused patients. Plus, female nurses are a brutal species :-)

ps I did chat with the local big cheese cab company in my town today and he suggested two options for starters
1. I get 35% of the take and they cover the car, insurance, fuel etc or
2. I get 50% and they cover all bar the fuel

The second option seems better as if i understand it correctly most people budget 10% for fuel plus the deal is even better during nights/weekends etc. Any thoughts on those percentages?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:28 pm 
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rent a car away from a company. plenty of them about.

Will most prob be cheaper than being stuck with a firm.

Try it out.

I think you are aiming low.

Depending on your hours . you can do ok.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:41 pm 
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Noobie72 wrote:
Thank you for your reply, i'm not very savvy about such things so i'll give the .gov helpline a call next week.


Your thinking of coming into this cess pit your off yer nut ffs read up on it #-o

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:43 pm 
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One driver said cabdirect when i asked him today so will take a peek this weekend. Can't do much until next week as not had my medical yet.

Thanks for your replies,
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:44 pm 
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trotskys twin wrote:
Noobie72 wrote:
Thank you for your reply, i'm not very savvy about such things so i'll give the .gov helpline a call next week.


Your thinking of coming into this cess pit your off yer nut ffs read up on it #-o



I been doing my research for a few weeks now, your posts are very enlightening :-)


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Im fairly certain that Class 1 is for PAYE earnings and Class 2 (and 4) is for self-employment, paying Class1 as a PAYE employee doesnt absolve the SE from Class 2/4, youd have to register as SE anyway regardless...

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Do you have to declare your extra income?

Whichever type of income it is, if there is tax to pay as a result of it, there is a legal requirement to notify HMRC (”the tax man”) about it. This is highly likely if your combined income from employment and your other income is over the tax-free Personal Allowance of £10,000 and there are no other complicating factors. You cannot wait for HMRC to take the initiative and get in touch with you first.

It makes no difference if you are already paying tax on your employment income through PAYE. Tax is always calculated on total income, and there are no allowances or registration exemptions specific to each type of income. For example, if your employment earnings are over £10,000, and your business/casual income is only £500, in most cases there will be tax to pay on that income and so you must declare it.

How to declare your casual income (if it is not a business)

Self assessment

This is a relatively simple matter of registering for Self Assessment for the first tax year in which you had the income. You can do this by completing and submitting the paper form SA1, or by using this page on the HMRC website. The time limit for registering is 6 months after the end of the tax year in which you first had the income.

If you are already registered for Self Assessment and completing tax returns for some other reason, there is no need to register again.

Shortly after the next 5 April, you will be sent a notice to complete a tax return for the tax year just ended. To declare the casual income, include it in the “Other Income” section. If you are submitting the tax return on paper, assuming the box numbers stay the same, it goes in boxes 16 and 17 on page TR3. You will also need to complete the Employment section with details of the income from your job, as this is important in getting the tax right for the year.

The casual income is then calculated and taxed in the same way as business income, as described below. It is not subject to national insurance.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:51 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
Im fairly certain that Class 1 is for PAYE earnings and Class 2 (and 4) is for self-employment, paying Class1 as a PAYE employee doesnt absolve the SE from Class 2/4, youd have to register as SE anyway regardless...




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Your tax-free Personal Allowance usually gets allocated to your employment, so the tax on your self-employment will be at your own highest tax rate. If your total income is below £41,865, the tax on your self-employed income will be 20%, but any income over £41,865 will be taxed at the higher rate of 40% (income above £150,000 may be taxed at 45%).

Additionally, you pay Class 4 National Insurance on your self-employed earnings at a rate of 9% on any income between £7,956 and £41,865 in a year, and at 2% on any income over £41,865. If your combined income goes over £40,000 in the tax year, the amount of Class 4 NI payable starts to be restricted (more details).

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:45 pm 
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Noobie72 wrote:
trotskys twin wrote:
Noobie72 wrote:
Thank you for your reply, i'm not very savvy about such things so i'll give the .gov helpline a call next week.


Your thinking of coming into this cess pit your off yer nut ffs read up on it #-o



I been doing my research for a few weeks now, your posts are very enlightening :-)


Remember that when some punter shoves a bottle in yer GOB :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:41 am 
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Unless your a total berk and allow someone into your cab with a bottle.

You learn fast. Not like Troskey there. Best troll on the webz.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:11 am 
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Remember that when some punter shoves a bottle in yer GOB :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:[/quote]

What job is easy? For the last seven years i've been wiping peoples bottoms, rubbing cream on their genitals, cleaning up sick, collecting sputum and stool samples and been assaulted verbally and physically by confused patients more times than i care to mention. Plus there's all the bullshit from the permanent staff because you're on a lot more than they are. Being a cabbie somehow doesn't sound so bad :-)


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