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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:10 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:33 pm 
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Cabby John 1 wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
http://www.childcarseats.org.uk/the-law/cars-taxis-private-hire-vehicles-vans-and-goods-vehicles/


So! In effect a child in a pram or a pushchair is permissible in a taxi, yes/no?

No.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:35 pm 
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Buzz wrote:
Another quick question. Say you are licensed for 4 persons and a family consisting of mother and father 2 children and a baby wish to travel. Is the baby still classed as a passenger so this wouldn't be permitted?

The baby has as much a claim in an accident as the parents.

Four means four, not four and a little one.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:59 pm 
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I explain it to my passengers thus:

If six people get in that's fine. (I am Licensed for six.)
If one is a pregnant woman and gives birth in the cab, someone has to get out and walk from there.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:14 am 
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Sussex wrote:
Cabby John 1 wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
http://www.childcarseats.org.uk/the-law/cars-taxis-private-hire-vehicles-vans-and-goods-vehicles/


So! In effect a child in a pram or a pushchair is permissible in a taxi, yes/no?

No.


Explain please as I read it differently - as mentioned I am quite prepared to be wrong.....I just want it to be right.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 7:06 am 
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petitioned vehicle...is different...

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:32 am 
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In a proper taxi, a pushchair can be carried, but must face backwards and be up against the partition, with the break on, this is because the child should be already strapped in the pushchair.
In a saloon a child under 3 is not allowed to use a seat belt, if a mother and baby get in the mother must put the belt on and hold the baby.
The booster seat law does not apply to taxis or PH, unless on a school contract.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:54 am 
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skippy41 wrote:
In a proper taxi, a pushchair can be carried, but must face backwards and be up against the partition, with the break on,

What will stop it moving about when cornering?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:39 am 
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grandad wrote:
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In a proper taxi, a pushchair can be carried, but must face backwards and be up against the partition, with the break on,

What will stop it moving about when cornering?


The power of positive thought?

This whole business is a dogs breakfast and should be sorted out.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:49 am 
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grandad wrote:
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In a proper taxi, a pushchair can be carried, but must face backwards and be up against the partition, with the break on,

What will stop it moving about when cornering?

The seatbelt..and extension......responsibility for the children is the parents...not the drivers.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:06 pm 
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MR T wrote:
petitioned vehicle...is different...


There you go! It is easy to see as to how confusion is caused.

A hackney driver looks across and sees another hack legally loading a pram/pushchair into as above a petitioned off vehicle, but all he sees is that another hack and he is also a hack, so he/she sees it as being ok! - but it is not as he/she has a different vehicle.

What needs clarifying is the type of vehicle and the total ambiguity taken out of it i.e you load a pram/buggy onto a bus with not even a thought that it is not restrained. Oh and the argument that buses are bigger does not necessarily stand up - they too can be wiped out.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:43 pm 
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Cabby John 1 wrote:
MR T wrote:
petitioned vehicle...is different...


There you go! It is easy to see as to how confusion is caused.

A hackney driver looks across and sees another hack legally loading a pram/pushchair into as above a petitioned off vehicle, but all he sees is that another hack and he is also a hack, so he/she sees it as being ok! - but it is not as he/she has a different vehicle.

What needs clarifying is the type of vehicle and the total ambiguity taken out of it i.e you load a pram/buggy onto a bus with not even a thought that it is not restrained. Oh and the argument that buses are bigger does not necessarily stand up - they too can be wiped out.

There is a perfectly simple answer to most questions of this type that get raised on here from time to time. Ask your licensing officer. They are the ones who do the enforcing so they should know what they will and wont enforce.

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grandad wrote:
Cabby John 1 wrote:
MR T wrote:
petitioned vehicle...is different...


There you go! It is easy to see as to how confusion is caused.

A hackney driver looks across and sees another hack legally loading a pram/pushchair into as above a petitioned off vehicle, but all he sees is that another hack and he is also a hack, so he/she sees it as being ok! - but it is not as he/she has a different vehicle.

What needs clarifying is the type of vehicle and the total ambiguity taken out of it i.e you load a pram/buggy onto a bus with not even a thought that it is not restrained. Oh and the argument that buses are bigger does not necessarily stand up - they too can be wiped out.

There is a perfectly simple answer to most questions of this type that get raised on here from time to time. Ask your licensing officer. They are the ones who do the enforcing so they should know what they will and wont enforce.



Yes - but! we are also having to take into consideration the law/legal aspects, I guess that this is not just down to the L.A's. You can bet that in the event of an accident, the Insurance companies will be looking at U.K law to avoid paying out.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:15 pm 
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Cabby John 1 wrote:


Yes - but! we are also having to take into consideration the law/legal aspects, I guess that this is not just down to the L.A's. You can bet that in the event of an accident, the Insurance companies will be looking at U.K law to avoid paying out.

So why not do the simple thing and refuse to carry a buggy with a kid in it. That way you will know that you are ok. To me this is just common sense. Why would you want to take the risk?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:28 pm 
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grandad wrote:
Cabby John 1 wrote:


Yes - but! we are also having to take into consideration the law/legal aspects, I guess that this is not just down to the L.A's. You can bet that in the event of an accident, the Insurance companies will be looking at U.K law to avoid paying out.

So why not do& the simple thing and refuse to carry a buggy with a kid in it. That way you will know that you are ok. To me this is just common sense. Why would you want to take the risk?


1. I meant to say 'partition' not petition.
2. FX4, TX1 2 & 4 are purpose built taxis for the transportation of the general public. People, adults, young adults, mums with their children in prams. They were designed with tip-up seats to make the room needed long before they were converted to carry disabled people. The whole structure of the cab is designed to provide the driver with protection from passengers and the rear section to provide space for the passenger's needs. Because other areas use saloon vehicles as taxis, the law has to be versatile, which is why the driver of a purpose built vehicle is exempt from certain rules which apply to saloon hackneys.................................The professional driver drives a purpose built hackney and the rest are just toy town :D ,

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