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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 7:36 am 
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My Uber driver fell asleep and crashed - they need to stop working stupid hours


A pilates teacher who was knocked unconscious when her Uber minicab crashed and flipped over today demanded tougher controls on the phone app’s drivers.

Emma Davey, 27, suffered serious concussion and whiplash in the accident at Kennington after her driver allegedly fell asleep.

Ms Davey said the number of hours drivers can work should be more strictly controlled and claimed the driver started nodding off shortly after he picked her up on a Sunday morning.

She was travelling from her Putney home to a course in Bermondsey when the car crashed into a bollard.

She said: “I noticed his driving was a little odd, there was a lot of swerving and people started beeping at him. I was keeping an eye on him as I felt he was falling asleep at the wheel.”

Ms Davey said she then took her eyes off him for a moment and that’s when the crash happened. “The car flipped onto its side and I blacked out after hitting my head. The next thing I know, there are two men shouting at me from outside the car asking if I can get out. I was in tears and in a huge state of shock.”

Ms Davey, who runs her own business as a pilates studio equipment teacher and now lives in Kingston, said she was taken to St George’s Hospital in Tooting for X-rays after the crash on March 29. She was discharged later suffering from severe concussion and whiplash.

“I had to take a month off and lost around £3,700,” she said. “My physio actually signed me off for longer due to the concussion but I just couldn’t afford to not work.”

She is now pursuing a compensation claim through the driver’s insurance company, and added: “I’m just so annoyed that my life was put at risk by a driver who is probably doing stupid hours. There needs to be better regulation. There has to be a cap on the number of hours they can do at any one time. Uber needs to put something in place.”

A Met police spokesman said the driver was questioned by officers at the scene but no further action was taken.

Jo Bertram, regional general manager for Uber, said: “Uber is fulfilling millions of trips a month in London alone, and fortunately accidents are incredibly rare. Like some other private hire operators and taxis, all Uber drivers are self-employed and as such have the flexibility to work what hours they choose. However, driver hours are strictly monitored and there is a robust process in place to ensure drivers do not drive tired. We have been in regular contact with the rider to offer our full support.”

Uber added that it monitored working patterns to ensure a driver does not work for too long consecutively, or for excessive hours in a given week, and also used customer feedback “for any signals that might flag any issues with a driver’s driving.”

source: http://www.standard.co.uk/news/transpor ... 93791.html

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:38 am 
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She said: “I noticed his driving was a little odd, there was a lot of swerving and people started beeping at him. I was keeping an eye on him as I felt he was falling asleep at the wheel.”


It didn't occur to you to ask him to stop so you could get another vehicle.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:40 am 
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captain cab wrote:
However, driver hours are strictly monitored and there is a robust process in place to ensure drivers do not drive tired.

Uber added that it monitored working patterns to ensure a driver does not work for too long consecutively, or for excessive hours in a given week, and also used customer feedback “for any signals that might flag any issues with a driver’s driving.”

Anyone else smell something of bovine origin.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 12:03 pm 
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Well of course UBER are responsible in that if they give work to a Driver their legally responsible if that driver has exceeded the WTD! on another point re UBER its clear their having now a massive effect on the Scum proprietors in london especially central London =D> =D> =D> =D> and the Adverts in the trade press are diminishing because Drivers no longer believe the crap in them take a look at the trade Press :badgrin: :badgrin: 20 pages down to 8 of driver adds :badgrin: :badgrin:

london proprietors are in THE poop =D> =D> =D> now watch the GMB do a deal with UBER :badgrin: :badgrin: oh maybe not the Branch sec is a PROPRIETOR :badgrin: :badgrin:

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:05 pm 
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grandad wrote:
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However, driver hours are strictly monitored and there is a robust process in place to ensure drivers do not drive tired.

Uber added that it monitored working patterns to ensure a driver does not work for too long consecutively, or for excessive hours in a given week, and also used customer feedback “for any signals that might flag any issues with a driver’s driving.”

Anyone else smell something of bovine origin.



Loads of it.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:26 pm 
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Nidge2 wrote:
grandad wrote:
captain cab wrote:
However, driver hours are strictly monitored and there is a robust process in place to ensure drivers do not drive tired.

Uber added that it monitored working patterns to ensure a driver does not work for too long consecutively, or for excessive hours in a given week, and also used customer feedback “for any signals that might flag any issues with a driver’s driving.”

Anyone else smell something of bovine origin.



Loads of it.


If they monitor there drivers working hours to prevent tired drivers they should have a set maximum daily and weekly hours a driver can work if there not willing to state these limits any assurances they give are worthless.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:14 pm 
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Midlife martyr wrote:

If they monitor there drivers working hours to prevent tired drivers they should have a set maximum daily and weekly hours a driver can work if there not willing to state these limits any assurances they give are worthless.

Apart from the faact that they can't monitor the hours that the driver works when he isn't logged in to their system.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:14 pm 
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grandad wrote:
Apart from the faact that they can't monitor the hours that the driver works when he isn't logged in to their system.


Correct. PCO licensed drivers in London, can work for as many operators as they wish.

Many Uber drivers do, some work for other minicab firms, logging onto Uber when their local minicab firm is quiet, or when Uber is busy.

If a driver does an 8 hour shift with their local minicab firm, then log on to Uber immediately afterwards to do another 8 hours, nobody will know. Then the driver may live out of London and face an other hour or so drive back home...

Especially now that Uber offers flexible open-shift work, other minicab firms are beginning to have to do the same (rather than requiring the driver to do fixed-shifts), it is now easier for a driver to work for more than one company.


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Uber is fulfilling millions of trips a month in London alone

Why do operator always spout crazy untruth rubbish about their actual job numbers?

Say Uber have a 1000 cars in London, which I think is an over estimate, but I'm happy to be proved wrong.

Say Uber's millions of jobs is three million, at a guess.

That means each Uber driver will do 100 jobs every day of the month. :---) :---) :---) :---) :---) :---) :---)

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:09 pm 
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christopherwk wrote:
grandad wrote:
Apart from the faact that they can't monitor the hours that the driver works when he isn't logged in to their system.


Correct. PCO licensed drivers in London, can work for as many operators as they wish.

Many Uber drivers do, some work for other minicab firms, logging onto Uber when their local minicab firm is quiet, or when Uber is busy.

If a driver does an 8 hour shift with their local minicab firm, then log on to Uber immediately afterwards to do another 8 hours, nobody will know. Then the driver may live out of London and face an other hour or so drive back home...

Especially now that Uber offers flexible open-shift work, other minicab firms are beginning to have to do the same (rather than requiring the driver to do fixed-shifts), it is now easier for a driver to work for more than one company.


AAh but the company needs to ask the driver are using more than one supplier {agency}which is all PH company's are and if you are what hours have you worked recently? Failure to do so renders them not fit and proper!

Any Driver that is required to work shifts is NOT SELF EMPLOYED THEY ARE WORKERS UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE COMPANY AND ENTITLED TO EMPLOYMENT RIGHTS PAID HOLIDAYS ETC.

all this should be basic knowledge for any Driver or PH company #-o #-o especially in London #-o

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:18 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
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Uber is fulfilling millions of trips a month in London alone

Why do operator always spout crazy untruth rubbish about their actual job numbers?

Say Uber have a 1000 cars in London, which I think is an over estimate, but I'm happy to be proved wrong.

Say Uber's millions of jobs is three million, at a guess.

That means each Uber driver will do 100 jobs every day of the month. :---) :---) :---) :---) :---) :---) :---)


I strongly suspect UBER now have well in excess of 4000 Drivers given recent conversations i have had with sources within the industry and its rumored their recruiting CURRENTLY 400 A WEEK and every week that total will grow, panic stations has set in in central London ie within 6 miles of Leicester Square ...........................and i am delighted to see the parasitical Proprietors getting a fekking good hiding =D> =D> =D> :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :lol: :lol: :lol:

UBER are a force to reckoned with in London and are proving beneficial to the Drivers, once they obtain a stranglehold on the PH in London they will get nasty but will of course be very vulnerable to organised Drivers ................get yer act together GMBPDB :D

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:20 pm 
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weren't the GMB banging on about driver hours years ago?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:23 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
Say Uber have a 1000 cars in London, which I think is an over estimate, but I'm happy to be proved wrong.



"In last month we have had 7,000 active drivers on the roads in London," said Travis Kalanick, founder and CEO of Uber.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/uber-ceo-travi ... 16-1468436
http://www.cityam.com/1412567312/uber-s ... llion-cars

These articles were written in October 2014.

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weren't the GMB banging on about driver hours years ago?


Yep in the house of commons under a different Branch Sec :wink: but when Boris arrived he wernt botherd he will be now! Brown the orange gink couldnt move Boris Ken was all prepped to get into it but didnt get elected #-o naturalyl the GMBPDB under a Proprietor Branch sec shut their eyes to all the hours it wasnt in his interest was it, i wonder if his working hours would stand scrutiny ,,,,,,,,,,,so if anyone at TFL is interested why not examine his working pattern :?: :?: :?:

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christopherwk wrote:
Sussex wrote:
Say Uber have a 1000 cars in London, which I think is an over estimate, but I'm happy to be proved wrong.



"In last month we have had 7,000 active drivers on the roads in London," said Travis Kalanick, founder and CEO of Uber.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/uber-ceo-travi ... 16-1468436
http://www.cityam.com/1412567312/uber-s ... llion-cars

These articles were written in October 2014.

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Probably propaganda at that time :?: i doubt theyve that many yet but reckon they will by the Autumn ..........or even more :lol: :lol:

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