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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:11 am 
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The private hire in guildford have exactly the same meter fares as the hackneys(no booking charges etc) this was done away with at the last meter change in 2013.i will post some links of the new charges later.Private hire have to charge the same if meter is used UNLESS a fare is agreed at time of booking ie set fare.Private Hire can in effect charge more if customer told of extra charges at time of booking by way of set fare or out of town to out of town jobs-charged from town work if told at time of booking.

Hackneys had a meeting Tuesday 4th August and have issued a solicitors letter on Thursday 6th August challenging new rates saying process was flawed-using AA motoring costs tables etc to price costs of using a vehicle on the road have reduced.

Await to hear outcome-council was challenged and lost in 2009 when attempting to make all hackneys wheel chair accessible vehicles (they'd in 2004 let free Hackney plates be issued to new entrants with wheel chair accessible vehicles if knowledge test done) Hackneys had five years notice to move to new vehicles but council defeated at legal challenge as they couldn't change original terms and conditions of existing Hackney plates.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:12 pm 
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Private hire have to charge the same if meter is used UNLESS a fare is agreed at time of booking ie set fare.

Old wives tale.

I agree they must charge their advertised rate unless agreed otherwise, but that rate can be what the operator chooses.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 12:49 am 
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It seems that I may have mis-interpreted the condition relating to meters in our private hire vehicles. The actual wording is :- Private Hire vehicles are not required to be fitted with a taximeter. Where a taximeter or other such device is fitted, it must be approved by the Council.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 6:37 pm 
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It seems that I may have mis-interpreted the condition relating to meters in our private hire vehicles. The actual wording is :- Private Hire vehicles are not required to be fitted with a taximeter. Where a taximeter or other such device is fitted, it must be approved by the Council.

I think many councils have similar wording, which could and clearly does cause confusion.

In short the meters themselves need to be of an approved type, but not the rate.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 6:55 pm 
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I don't believe the council can legally 'approve' a rate. They can only require that the meter is set to the rate advised by the operator.


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cabbyman wrote:
I don't believe the council can legally 'approve' a rate. They can only require that the meter is set to the rate advised by the operator.


they set a maximum

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:47 pm 
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For PH???????????


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:51 pm 
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cabbyman wrote:
For PH???????????



lol no HC - they cant touch PH fares - which idiot thinks that?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:35 am 
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On the fare chart for hackneys it states "If the journey takes the taxi outside the Guildford Borough area the driver MUST still charge in accordance with the scale on the the meter UNLESS an agreement has been made with the hirer before the journey has started.These are the maximum fares chargeable."

Private Hire can charge from they like as long as a price has been agreed with customer at time of booking otherwise it goes on the meter here-same rates for Hackney and private hire.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:59 pm 
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spaceinvader1 wrote:
same rates for Hackney and private hire.

But I suspect that is out of choice, not out of legal requirement.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:18 pm 
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No rate change now-just meters checked for old rates,times and dates then certificate issued and tamper proof wires attached to meters ffs

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:43 pm 
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[quote="spaceinvader1"]No rate change now-just meters checked for old rates,times and dates then certificate issued and tamper proof wires attached to meters ffs[/quote

Guildford full of Tory voting anti Union kkunts that drive cabs .............i am delighted their getting whacked ............they surely deserve it =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

BEEN there their top quality to$$ers ...............enjoy bankruptcy you scum .......and divorce ..............access problems to yer children ......................homelessness,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,all definitely deserved :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :lol: :lol: =D> =D>

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:20 am 
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Council drops plans to reduce Guildford taxi fares after 'legal threats'



The Guildford Hackney Association stopped plans to reduce the cost per mile, but councillors have disputed that it was due to the threat of a judicial review

Guildford Borough Council went back on its decision to reduce taxi fares in the town

The threat of legal action prompted a U-turn over council plans to reduce taxi fares in Guildford, it has been claimed.

Customers were expecting to pay less per mile, but a challenge from Guildford Hackney Association blocked the scheme.

The drivers’ group claimed the decrease would affect their livelihoods and this week, Guildford Borough Council went back on its decision.

It is the latest in a string of disagreements that has contributed to a fractious relationship between the council and taxi drivers.

Mark Rostron, secretary of Guildford Hackney Association, had claimed drivers could lose up to £7,000 a year in earnings if the fare change went ahead.

Speaking after the announcement there would be no change, Mr Rostron said: “From the association’s point of view, we are pleased we managed to stop this crazy council proposal.

"Obviously it would be very damaging to taxi drivers, and to the users of taxis because it would have lead to a reduction in the number of taxis working and a shortage at critical times.

“At the same time, we are really disappointed we had to yet again resort to expensive legal means and threaten a judicial review to get the council to see reason and recognise it made serious mistakes in its decision.

"The council is wasting tax payers’ money, a large amount of council tax payers’ money, pursuing all these mistaken policies over the years.

"The public of Guildford are paying for the incompetence of the council. Because of the history of this, I think it fair to say the drivers don’t have any confidence in the council, the councillors and officers, in their capacity to deal with taxi licensing.”

The daytime taxi rate will stay £2.04 per mile, and the night and holiday rate £3.07.

Taking other costs into account

Mr Rostron said drivers hired a barrister who wrote to the council saying if the council did make changes to fares, a judicial review would be launched.

However, Councillor Graham Ellwood, lead member for community safety and licensing, said the decision had nothing to do with the threat of a judicial review.

“Mark tends to issue the threat of judicial reviews a bit like confetti, which is not helpful,” Cllr Ellwood said.

“We never back down in the face of judicial review. The reason I called in the decision is simple.

"The fare calculator was worked out two years ago and although I understand the reason, it was looking to reduce fares because of a drop in fuel price.

"I don’t believe it takes into account other costs which are going to rise. For example, the costs of mortgages.”

Cllr Ellwood said many drivers approached him worried about the effect the change would have on their income.

Taxi drivers were informed of the change of decision by the council last Tuesday (August 11), a day before the proposed decrease in fares was due to come in.

The fare also includes 50p extra for each passenger above one, and a £100 fine if the taxi is left in an unusable state after use.

In September, the council is also due to discuss further changes to the taxi service, which includes a ‘Guildford Borough Council’ branding of drivers’ vehicles and more in-depth training and assessment.

Mr Rostron has criticised that too, again saying it could impact the lives of drivers who are not good at exams, but are good at their jobs.

Others branded the change in livery of the cars, which would feature a Guildford Borough Council logo and a silver or teal paint job, as a waste of money.

source: http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey- ... rd-9883810

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:46 pm 
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However, Councillor Graham Ellwood, lead member for community safety and licensing, said the decision had nothing to do with the threat of a judicial review.

“Mark tends to issue the threat of judicial reviews a bit like confetti, which is not helpful,” Cllr Ellwood said.

“We never back down in the face of judicial review. The reason I called in the decision is simple.

"The fare calculator was worked out two years ago and although I understand the reason, it was looking to reduce fares because of a drop in fuel price.

"I don’t believe it takes into account other costs which are going to rise. For example, the costs of mortgages.”

Well where were you when this was being discussed and approved?

Or as lead licensing Councillor don't you read your papers?

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