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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:48 am 
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200 000 NEW MEMBERS SUPPORTERS MOSTLY AGED BELOW 30 OVERJOYED THAT AT LAST SOMEONE IS SPEAKING ON THEIR BEHALF MANY OF WHOM DECLINED TO VOTE FOR NEW LABOUR NOW DETERMINED TO SUPPORT

CORBYNS POLICYS

ABOLISHING STUDENT FEES
NATIONALISING THE RAILWAYS
NATIONALISING GAS WATER AND ELECTRICITY
SETTING UP A NATIONAL BANK
BUILDING COUNCIL HOMES
INVESTING IN THE NHS AND REMOVING THE PRIVATE SECTOR FROM WITHIN IT
CANCELLING ALL PFI CONTRACTS
GIVING BACK TRADE UNIONS THEIR RIGHTS
PROSECUTING ALL TAX AVOIDERS ,,,,,,,,SAVING AT LEAST £80 BILLION A YEAR
CANCELLING TRIDENT
WITHDRAWING FROM THE OCCUPIED 6 COUNTY'S OF IRELAND
REMOVING THE ROYAL FAMILY AND REPLACING THE HEAD OF STATE WITH ONE ELECTED BY THE CITIZENS ON A REGULAR BASIS
NEGOTIATING WITH THE EU ON A BETTER DEAL AND GIVING THE CITIZENS THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE IN OR OUT
SHUTTING THE HOUSE OF LORDS AND REPLACING IT WITH AN ELECTED CHAMBER

ETC ETC 200000 NEW SUPPORTERS FOR SOCIALIST POLICYS .........ITS A WALK OVER :D

ANY PARTY FIGHTING ON THESE POLICYS WILL WALK THE NEXT ELECTION AFTER 5 YEARS OF THE FEKKING TORY SCUM =D>


who's paying?



There is a saying "You cannot get blood out of a stone". I believe that is where we are and that there is no mythical recovery happening! i.e unemployment up 25.000, up for the second month in a row. It is a bit like we have democracy! well actually we do not - we are told that we do. My point being is that we have no more to give and that is why we are still where we are. In answer to your question - it will be more of the same i.e who is paying for the present mess?

I said on here some years ago "This is not a recession - This is the way we live" , nothing has changed to alter my thoughts on that one.

They are ALLOWING the flood of immigrants in, so that they will snap up every bit of employment that is out there in order to put every drop of money back into the economy........that is their only plan - so I guess we are already paying, and will go on doing so.

The plans from the millionaire masters from the Cons and Labour are meant for their ilk - not you and I. Corbyn might just well be worth a punt just to see the alternative option, as nothing else is working.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:11 pm 
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John yer last para says it all worth a PUNT oh yes indeed =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 1:34 pm 
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trotskys twin wrote:

CORBYNS POLICYS

ABOLISHING STUDENT FEES
NATIONALISING THE RAILWAYS
NATIONALISING GAS WATER AND ELECTRICITY
SETTING UP A NATIONAL BANK
BUILDING COUNCIL HOMES
INVESTING IN THE NHS AND REMOVING THE PRIVATE SECTOR FROM WITHIN IT
CANCELLING ALL PFI CONTRACTS
GIVING BACK TRADE UNIONS THEIR RIGHTS
PROSECUTING ALL TAX AVOIDERS ,,,,,,,,SAVING AT LEAST £80 BILLION A YEAR
CANCELLING TRIDENT
WITHDRAWING FROM THE OCCUPIED 6 COUNTY'S OF IRELAND
REMOVING THE ROYAL FAMILY AND REPLACING THE HEAD OF STATE WITH ONE ELECTED BY THE CITIZENS ON A REGULAR BASIS
NEGOTIATING WITH THE EU ON A BETTER DEAL AND GIVING THE CITIZENS THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE IN OR OUT
SHUTTING THE HOUSE OF LORDS AND REPLACING IT WITH AN ELECTED CHAMBER

ETC ETC 200000 NEW SUPPORTERS FOR SOCIALIST POLICYS .........ITS A WALK OVER :D

ANY PARTY FIGHTING ON THESE POLICYS WILL WALK THE NEXT ELECTION AFTER 5 YEARS OF THE FEKKING TORY SCUM =D>

I wonder how many Labour MPs will walk because they will feel unable to support these so called policies?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 2:07 pm 
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grandad wrote:
trotskys twin wrote:

CORBYNS POLICYS

ABOLISHING STUDENT FEES
NATIONALISING THE RAILWAYS
NATIONALISING GAS WATER AND ELECTRICITY
SETTING UP A NATIONAL BANK
BUILDING COUNCIL HOMES
INVESTING IN THE NHS AND REMOVING THE PRIVATE SECTOR FROM WITHIN IT
CANCELLING ALL PFI CONTRACTS
GIVING BACK TRADE UNIONS THEIR RIGHTS
PROSECUTING ALL TAX AVOIDERS ,,,,,,,,SAVING AT LEAST £80 BILLION A YEAR
CANCELLING TRIDENT
WITHDRAWING FROM THE OCCUPIED 6 COUNTY'S OF IRELAND
REMOVING THE ROYAL FAMILY AND REPLACING THE HEAD OF STATE WITH ONE ELECTED BY THE CITIZENS ON A REGULAR BASIS
NEGOTIATING WITH THE EU ON A BETTER DEAL AND GIVING THE CITIZENS THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE IN OR OUT
SHUTTING THE HOUSE OF LORDS AND REPLACING IT WITH AN ELECTED CHAMBER

ETC ETC 200000 NEW SUPPORTERS FOR SOCIALIST POLICYS .........ITS A WALK OVER :D

ANY PARTY FIGHTING ON THESE POLICYS WILL WALK THE NEXT ELECTION AFTER 5 YEARS OF THE FEKKING TORY SCUM =D>

I wonder how many Labour MPs will walk because they will feel unable to support these so called policies?


A question for everyone and anyone.

Out of the 14 listed policies - what would you not support? and why you would not?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:21 pm 
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Cabby John 1 wrote:
grandad wrote:
trotskys twin wrote:

CORBYNS POLICYS

ABOLISHING STUDENT FEES
NATIONALISING THE RAILWAYS
NATIONALISING GAS WATER AND ELECTRICITY
SETTING UP A NATIONAL BANK
BUILDING COUNCIL HOMES
INVESTING IN THE NHS AND REMOVING THE PRIVATE SECTOR FROM WITHIN IT
CANCELLING ALL PFI CONTRACTS
GIVING BACK TRADE UNIONS THEIR RIGHTS
PROSECUTING ALL TAX AVOIDERS ,,,,,,,,SAVING AT LEAST £80 BILLION A YEAR
CANCELLING TRIDENT
WITHDRAWING FROM THE OCCUPIED 6 COUNTY'S OF IRELAND
REMOVING THE ROYAL FAMILY AND REPLACING THE HEAD OF STATE WITH ONE ELECTED BY THE CITIZENS ON A REGULAR BASIS
NEGOTIATING WITH THE EU ON A BETTER DEAL AND GIVING THE CITIZENS THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE IN OR OUT
SHUTTING THE HOUSE OF LORDS AND REPLACING IT WITH AN ELECTED CHAMBER

ETC ETC 200000 NEW SUPPORTERS FOR SOCIALIST POLICYS .........ITS A WALK OVER :D

ANY PARTY FIGHTING ON THESE POLICYS WILL WALK THE NEXT ELECTION AFTER 5 YEARS OF THE FEKKING TORY SCUM =D>

I wonder how many Labour MPs will walk because they will feel unable to support these so called policies?


A question for everyone and anyone.

Out of the 14 listed policies - what would you not support? and why you would not?


I will support them ALL plus

Banishing Zero hours contracts
Putting Police back on the Streets
Putting MP#s on average workers PAY
Abolishing free and private schools
Putting millions into house building
Outlawing ABORTION

Some of which are of course not on JC's agenda

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:50 pm 
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Cabby John 1 wrote:

A question for everyone and anyone.

Out of the 14 listed policies - what would you not support? and why you would not?

That maybe a good debating point after the leadership election is over.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 5:22 pm 
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toots wrote:
Did I hear correctly this evening when Andy Burnham mentioned renationalising the railways? If I did is it safe to assume that it is to become a labour party policy regardless who wins the battle or are they just jumping on the band wagon of what is popular at the moment?


Renationalising the railways is only popular with people not old enough to remember British railways.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 7:08 pm 
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CORBYNS POLICYS

ABOLISHING STUDENT FEES
NATIONALISING THE RAILWAYS
NATIONALISING GAS WATER AND ELECTRICITY
SETTING UP A NATIONAL BANK
BUILDING COUNCIL HOMES
INVESTING IN THE NHS AND REMOVING THE PRIVATE SECTOR FROM WITHIN IT
CANCELLING ALL PFI CONTRACTS
GIVING BACK TRADE UNIONS THEIR RIGHTS
PROSECUTING ALL TAX AVOIDERS ,,,,,,,,SAVING AT LEAST £80 BILLION A YEAR
CANCELLING TRIDENT
WITHDRAWING FROM THE OCCUPIED 6 COUNTY'S OF IRELAND
REMOVING THE ROYAL FAMILY AND REPLACING THE HEAD OF STATE WITH ONE ELECTED BY THE CITIZENS ON A REGULAR BASIS
NEGOTIATING WITH THE EU ON A BETTER DEAL AND GIVING THE CITIZENS THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE IN OR OUT
SHUTTING THE HOUSE OF LORDS AND REPLACING IT WITH AN ELECTED CHAMBER

ETC ETC 200000 NEW SUPPORTERS FOR SOCIALIST POLICYS .........ITS A WALK OVER :D



The wish list of the man whom wants to be King.....Why does he think that all Taxi drivers are morons...

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The wish list of the man whom wants to be King.....Why does he think that all Taxi drivers are morons...



I am not so sure that he mentioned taxi drivers. Having said that I am sure that he knows that we might have an opinion......or two :D

Tbh I am looking at his policies and thinking..........I don't see much wrong there lad.

I'll say it again.......it is only the millionaires and BIG business that do not want his policies as it equals only millionaire status, and not Billionaire status....for them .

When the Unions were in power and despite the strikes......the country was not in the mess that it is in today. I am also of the opinion that the basics of life i.e water/electric/gas etc should not be in the hands of big business, and neither should the railways be allowed to rip off the commuters. Of course a profit has to be made - but not vulgar profit.

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Who's paying

Easy £80 billion a year tax avoidance from GOOGLE STARBUCKS THE BANKS THE TORY'S THE ROYALS WILL START IT THEN THERES 70P IN THE POUND FOR THE RICH SCUM ON OVER £100.000 A YEAR

LATEST FIGURES SUGGEST TAX AVOIDANCE IS NEARER £180 BILLION ..............................QUESTION ANSWERED ............NEXT :badgrin: :badgrin:


not really answered is it.

FFS people voting Corbyn because he's not part of the 'establishment' - he's been a f*cking MP for 32 years!

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FFS people voting Corbyn because he's not part of the 'establishment' - he's been a f*cking MP for 32 years!


Okay it is appealing that he is not part of the funny handshake gang, the fact that he has been an MP for 30+ years is enough to say that he may have seen the light i.e f^%k all has worked for the past 30 + years and now it is time for something that might be seen as radical, and might just do the trick.

Let us face facts; extreme capitalism is not working, pretty much the same as (true monetary) Communism also failed, as such we are heading down the same/similar path as the Soviet Bloc, the reason being - we are being financially screwed from the very top exactly the same as they were.

To me this is not about the population not paying their taxes, or that we do not produce anything any more! it is about not enough money being returned to the economy through (a decent days wage for a decent days pay), thus enabling the workforce to spend keeping the economy ticking over. We know for a fact that the rich/poor divide has become bigger, that tells us that profits are being made on the back of British workers - unfortunately the profits have become vulgar in the sense that THEY are keeping too much for themselves. As I have said before; it is similar to a game of monopoly.....the money at the moment is all in one corner of the board (not ours), as such when that happens, you/I are generally screwed.

Basically since 2008 we have had - it will be better tomorrow, unfortunately as we now know some 7 years on - tomorrow never comes. So! this is our life, this is how we live, the rest is false promises + smiles/patting/kissing the babies head, followed by copious amounts of BS that the British public end up believing in.

At the moment we have something different........we have! Mr Corbyn is in the room! and they are sh!^^ing themselves, as both main parties are full of millionaires with the most to lose. Corbyn may be radical , but this is the chance of a peaceful revolution and a chance to move some power back to the people.

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Cabby John 1 wrote:

Basically since 2008 we have had - it will be better tomorrow, unfortunately as we now know some 7 years on - tomorrow never comes. So! this is our life, this is how we live, the rest is false promises + smiles/patting/kissing the babies head, followed by copiers amounts of BS that the British public end up believing in.


This may be your situation and I am sure that others feel the same. But it is not the case for all. In many areas unemployment is very low and in our town we have very low unemployment, in fact workers are bussed in to several sites in town because there are just not enough people available for work here. Regular checks are made to ensure that the people bussed in are entitled to work here as well.

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grandad wrote:
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Basically since 2008 we have had - it will be better tomorrow, unfortunately as we now know some 7 years on - tomorrow never comes. So! this is our life, this is how we live, the rest is false promises + smiles/patting/kissing the babies head, followed by copiers amounts of BS that the British public end up believing in.


This may be your situation and I am sure that others feel the same. But it is not the case for all. In many areas unemployment is very low and in our town we have very low unemployment, in fact workers are bussed in to several sites in town because there are just not enough people available for work here. Regular checks are made to ensure that the people bussed in are entitled to work here as well.


I do not know what is happening down your neck of the woods. Perhaps you can tell us about the wages, hours, holiday pay and maybe about the proper contract of employment that they should have, (or are they zero hours and minimum wage)? It in all honesty sounds like the bottom end of the scale if they have to " Bus them in"! where are you? China,India,Pakistan? obviously these are jobs that do not enable/pay them enough to afford their own transport.

By the way, unemployment has just gone up by 25,000, the second time in two months that the figures have gone the wrong way (some recovery!). Make no mistake.....nothing has changed.

Tell me about the big/any employer who have opened up, tell me about the big/any companies (as in days gone by) who have come to the U.K paying good wages, because I see/hear nothing at all, however I do smell B.S from our wonderful leaders.

P.S. As a matter of interest where exactly are these "many" areas of low employment that you mention? Oh and you might also tell us about the area that these employed people work in, but cannot afford to live in i.e is it affluent or rundown, and of course about the wages and conditions.

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John do you own your Taxi..

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John do you own your Taxi..


Yes.

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