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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:40 am 
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Immigration Bill: Illegal workers 'may face six months' jail'

People who work illegally in England and Wales will face up to six months in prison, under proposals to be included in the forthcoming Immigration Bill.

The bill, to be introduced in the autumn, will also contain measures against takeaway restaurants and off-licences which employ illegal migrants.

Penalties will also include an unlimited fine and wages being seized.

Immigration Minister James Brokenshire said the government "would continue to crack down on abuse" of the system.

The government has made a series of immigration announcements over the summer of which this is the latest.

Takeaways and off-licences could lose their licences if they were found to be employing illegal workers.

Officials are also considering whether this provision should be extended to cover minicab drivers and operators.

The legal defence for other kinds of business discovered using illegal workers will also change.

They will no longer be able to claim they did not know a particular employee was not allowed to work - they will have to show that they carried out proper checks before taking them on.

The maximum sentence for employers found guilty will be raised from two to five years, in addition to the fines already in force.

'Soft touch'

Mr Brokenshire said: "Anyone who thinks the UK is a soft touch should be in no doubt - if you are here illegally, we will take action to stop you from working, renting a flat, opening a bank account or driving a car.

"As a one nation government we will continue to crack down on abuse and build an immigration system that works in the best interests of the British people and those who play by the rules."

Alp Mehmet, of Migration Watch UK, which supports tighter immigration controls, said: "This is not just about not being seen as a soft touch.

"More important is for the message to go out that if you are here illegally and caught working, you and your employer will end up in court.

"Let us hope that the authorities will not shy away from acting on the powers they are to be given, since their record on that front has not always been exemplary."

Earlier this month, the government also announced that landlords in England will be expected to evict tenants who lose the right to live in the UK, also under the proposed Immigration Bill.

Landlords will be able to end tenancies, sometimes without a court order, when asylum requests fail, and will be required to check a migrant's status in advance of agreeing a lease. Repeat offenders could face up to five years in prison.

And Mr Brokenshire has previously said businesses that employ illegal workers will be hit with "the full force of government machinery".

Immigration officers are reported to be preparing to mount a wave of raids this autumn targeting building sites, care homes and cleaning contractors.

source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34047686

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:16 pm 
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There is no room in the jails now. Are there going to be more jails built to accommodate these people?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:09 pm 
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There is no room in the jails now. Are there going to be more jails built to accommodate these people?

16 beds in one cell will do.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:23 pm 
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there is a simple solution all the illegals who have "lost" their passports should be herded together on a remote island somewhere until they obtain passports and can then be deported it would stop them from working and give them an incentive to cooperate because once there they can't play the system and just flit from one illegal job to another there is no point staying

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:37 pm 
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There is no room in the jails now. Are there going to be more jails built to accommodate these people?

Plenty of room.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:36 pm 
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There is no room in the jails now. Are there going to be more jails built to accommodate these people?

Plenty of room.

Go on then, How many empty beds are there in our prisons? By that I mean how many people were our prisons designed to hold and how many are they holding?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:28 pm 
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Go on then, How many empty beds are there in our prisons? By that I mean how many people were our prisons designed to hold and how many are they holding?

I think the stats usually show that prisons have more inmates than they were built for, but that doesn't mean there isn't room, just that they have to bunch up a bit.

I've never seen a letter from Gov saying don't send folks to prison. The gov do the sentencing guidelines, therefore they know what's coming.

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by all accounts they're all innocent in there anyway

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There is no room in the jails now. Are there going to be more jails built to accommodate these people?



Prison ships moored 10 miles off the coast. Have a holding jail for them on land then, every week have a trip back to load up.


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http://www.howardleague.org/weekly-prison-watch/

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http://www.howardleague.org/weekly-prison-watch/

And a bunch of bigger liars you will struggle to see.

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