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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:28 pm 
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Well..the Lunatic has taken over the Asylum after all..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34223157

"The Islington North MP said his first action as Labour leader would be join a demonstration with refugees."

Pretty much says it all really....Man's a fechin divvy. #-o


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:35 pm 
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Another Tory Government after this one then.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:32 pm 
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Chris the Fish wrote:
Another Tory Government after this one then.

=D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:04 pm 
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Whilst Tories flinch and Blarites sneer, we'll keep the red flag flying here.

I was one of the 15,000 that joined the party yesterday. Rejoined in my case, I left when Kinnock kicked Hatton out of the party.

Jez we did :)

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 2:32 pm 
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The hypocrisy of MP's/the press/plus all of the others who are jumping onto the sledging wagon is unbelievable.

Yes the man is unconventional and some of his policies are not going to make it! Putting aside his less than clean cut image, you have to say....does it really matter? Many of the professors of this world are right off of the Richter scale in all aspects on that one, and yet their brilliance allows them to get acceptance of them without question, followed by progress of which is somewhat lacking in politics. People are used to crooks (politicians) in suits, the crooks are so smart that they get the people who are supposed to uphold the law (the police) actually protecting them (now that is clever), and yet it seems apparent that people buy into that. On that one Corbyn is different, as far as I am concerned he can walk around in his birthday suit just so long as he is true to the electorate, apart from anarchistic tendencies (nowt wrong with that) nobody has dug up any dirt on him despite all of his years in politics, so they slate his appearance, and some of his policies that do not have a cat in hells chance of getting through - I guess that there are some frightened people out there who are afraid that their corrupt world might just implode.

The frightened opposition are screaming blue murder over the country going to rack and ruin (personally I thought we were there many years ago), and of course the hoo ha over the threat to our National security. The threat to our National security is already well and truly with us, with no doubt many sleeper cells already within our country just waiting to cause carnage, that being thanks to (the criminal), and dodgy Dave lying over his intent to curb numbers coming in. The previous and present governments have already overseen the dismantling of our National security by letting in the equivalent of a foreign army of young Ethnic men without so much of a register check! So I would say that it is a bit rich to be blaming Corbyn, for what has already been done.

Me! I am prepared to give him a chance, I do not agree with all of his policies and neither will they all get through. As to how people in general can slag him off when all else has failed (and I do mean all else) - it leaves me nodding my head from side to side in disbelief. So, just remember where we are now in in terms of finance i.e National debt & just remember where we are now in terms of National Security! yes I take on board Trident etc, but in terms of 500,000 + potential tridents already on our soil, it seems to pale into insignificance in wanting the man out just because he does not want nuclear war heads on our soil.

Just remember this.....all else has failed! So, give him a chance , because this shower of crooks and the previous lot do not do it for you and I.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:10 pm 
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Cabby John 1 wrote:

Just remember this.....all else has failed! So, give him a chance , because this shower of crooks and the previous lot do not do it for you and I.

Not everyone agrees that "all else has failed". I don't.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:29 pm 
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Chris the Fish wrote:
Another Tory Government after this one then.

Without a doubt.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:44 pm 
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grandad wrote:
Cabby John 1 wrote:

Just remember this.....all else has failed! So, give him a chance , because this shower of crooks and the previous lot do not do it for you and I.

Not everyone agrees that "all else has failed". I don't.


Putting your area to one side as I am talking about the country as a whole, then tell me what has (genuinely) improved/not failed. To clarify what I am saying; not that you are saying this:We are 7 years into a downward spiral and (Our High Streets and most in general) are still as bad as ever - if not worse. The National debt is getting bigger by the minute, unemployment is disguised by bringing in Zero contracts that the people on them will NEVER have a good/great quality of life, the politicians are as corrupt as ever, and company profits are bulging at the seams. From where I am standing I see nothing but financial suppression of the masses, and living standards that continue to fall whilst the rich get richer.

I repeat: All else has failed, perhaps I should elaborate........."For the electorate and the general population".

What do you see, that I do not?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:22 pm 
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Extreme Left Wing always fails.

While he leads the Labour Party, they can't have my vote and a protest vote will not be an option, I have to vote with whichever Party is most likely to beat the Labour Candidate.

I am a floating voter, Labour have been the beneficiary of my vote for quite a few elections, Local and National. That has ended until they move back toward the centre ground.

But that's just me (and the Wife, Son and Daughter as they ask me who to vote for). In the Local Elections a couple of years ago, Labour won by 18 votes, my vote(s) going elsewhere would cut it even finer.

I am convinced that Labour have condemned themselves to years in the wilderness, I can see them not having enough seats to be credible as an opposition next time, it would be strange but not impossible to see the SNP fronting the opposition benches.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:41 am 
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Extreme Left Wing always fails.


Understandably that has always been the case in the past, having said that politics have gone so far to the right it needs a correction, in this case I believe that Corbyn is just the man to do it, although not in its entirety.

Corbyns left wing policies will be taken on board by millions who are ticked off with the dictatorial way that politics has gone in this country, with the likes of UKIP and the Cons suffering losses. Obviously he will not get them all through as there are many who will keep him on track in order to appease the right wing electorate, in turn keeping them in jobs. You have to understand that we have gone so far right that the politicians are basically out of control, in many other countries it would be a case of the armed services wresting control back for the sake of the country. That may seem an off of the wall type of statement to make, and yet we had a similar thought back in the days of H.Wilson, the point being is; you never know who is watching or thinking the unimaginable as the rest i.e politicians believe they are untouchable!

In my opinion far right policies are damaging this country very badly, to rectify that situation it needs a radical switch to the left - to then come back to the center.

So! Whatever you think........the governments and their policies as of this moment are not for the every day people, the proof being "The rich/poor divide" getting bigger by the day. Also take on board this apparent willingness to start taking in refugees by the hundreds of thousands by Angela Merkel....it is nothing more than a monetary exercise to fund pensioners and to force wages down. If Corbyn takes us out of Europe then he will not get the opportunity, or be forced to go down the same road.

What we have in British politics prior to Corbyn is not acceptable to the British electorate, borne by the facts that the electorate have been reaching out to numerous parties over the years that would never before have been seen as acceptable. The people have been seeking a peaceful solution by voting for i.e the Lib Dems,UKIP........and now Corbyn. I would say take it while you can as this country and Europe cannot go on as it is....the Greeks back tracked re bail out, Merkel back tracked re refugee intake, at the moment it is chaos, and in fairness Corbyn wants out......so do I.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:30 am 
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Cabby John 1 wrote:
having said that politics have gone so far to the right it needs a correction,

You are having a laugh. The position for the last few years has been that the Tories, Libdems and Labour are all in the centre. There is no left wing or right wing anymore. Which is why the election results are so close. UKIP were more to the right than the Tories and look where it got them.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:59 am 
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grandad wrote:
Cabby John 1 wrote:
having said that politics have gone so far to the right it needs a correction,

You are having a laugh. The position for the last few years has been that the Tories, Libdems and Labour are all in the centre. There is no left wing or right wing anymore. Which is why the election results are so close. UKIP were more to the right than the Tories and look where it got them.



Good news for the Tories with Corbyn winning the race for the leader. Congratulations on winning the 2020 elections.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:57 am 
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grandad wrote:
Cabby John 1 wrote:
having said that politics have gone so far to the right it needs a correction,

You are having a laugh. The position for the last few years has been that the Tories, Libdems and Labour are all in the centre. There is no left wing or right wing anymore. Which is why the election results are so close. UKIP were more to the right than the Tories and look where it got them.


i would like to know by what criteria you judge the current government to be a party of the centre if so some of the previous conservative governments must have been almost socialist compared to this vicious venal outfit.


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So Arsenals MP and supporter gets the Job hardly surprising :badgrin: :badgrin:

Labour under Jezza will flourish because he will force DEBATE and discussion on this Tory Vermins attacks upon the innocent and the Blairite quislings betrayal's

Looks good to me =D> =D> =D>

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:14 am 
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he will force DEBATE and discussion


I agree with you on that....and that is Good...

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