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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:17 pm 
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Baroness Kramer Liberal Democrat


My Lords, I like the word “prudence”; it is a sensible one to use. As my noble friend Lord Taverne said, in a civilised society taxation plays a key

role and there is always a balance between the investment provided by the public sector, support for the vulnerable and the potential that can be brought about by constraining the amount of the economy that the public sector captures.

Let me move on to the more exciting part of this discussion, which will, I hope, be the first of many. During the coalition years, we had a very interventionist Government and an industrial strategy, to which the noble Baroness, Lady Wheatcroft, referred. It was not a free market solution of bringing back R&D investment and rebuilding the technological skills base in this country. It was a working partnership between the Government and business, often through the catapult centres, with a big focus on and support for research, especially the development end of research, and with that a development of the skills base.

Several people have made a key point: apprenticeships are wonderful and every one of us here would support high-quality apprenticeships. I hope the Government will look at how they work, not just in large companies but in small companies, which have been rather neglected. However, the work of the further education colleges in developing skilled people who have the flexibility not just to fill the immediate jobs but the potential to develop new industries and fill the opportunities of the future is absolutely key. I hope the Government keep that very much in mind.

These disruptive technologies are incredibly exciting; to me, that is, in part, because they are so consumer and user-driven. Amazon has become a powerhouse, not because it has been imposed from the top but because people want to change the way they buy. I hate the fact that it does not pay taxes, but we have to solve that problem because it will be a characteristic of so many of the firms of the future. Look at Uber. No matter how we feel about the black cab company, it seems that younger people have found Uber to be effective. However, as people in this House have said, it is a company that does not own a single taxi. I suspect that rather than going to a conventional hotel, many in this House are now looking at Airbnb as a way of booking their summer holiday. In the finance sector, which is rarely discussed in this context, the disintermediation of the big players is phenomenal. Peer-to-peer lending, crowdfunding and small, specialised banks are filling the gap that the financial institutions have allowed to develop, partly because they have hung on to ancient legacy technology—nearly all of them are dinosaurs. One sadness about the return of RBS was that it could have been reshaped into something that matched the new world of alternate finance. Instead, frankly, it has been left as a dinosaur of the old world.

I am concerned about access to financing for SMEs, because the traditional banks are not doing it any better than they were during recession—that is absolutely key; it is being picked up by the alternate world. That world will carry them through the very early days of development with relatively small amounts of finance, but we still have in this country the famous valley of death for companies that are beginning to grow and then cannot get access either to the risk capital or to the lending that they need to make that transition. We live with two consequences that worry me enormously.

So many of our brilliant entrepreneurs who start companies have no ambition to grow them to global entities. In the US, their counterparts would do it without question, but they look to sell out. It is partly a cultural attitude, but it is also because that financing to go to a global structure is not available in this country, and it is something that has to be tackled rapidly.

A number of people—my noble friend Lady Miller in particular—talked about the importance of the green economy. It is one of the key economic sectors of the future. I am extraordinarily worried because any conversation now with investors in the green energy sector will tell you that they are holding back because they have been so discouraged by the actions that the Government have taken. Zero-carbon homes were mentioned, as was the withdrawal of support for onshore wind—there is now complete mistrust and suspicion across that sector. Those green jobs are critical to our future.

No one discussed the transport industry, where I have spent the past two years of my life. Ultra-low-emission vehicles together with driverless cars and huge manufacturing change—for example, 3D printing of car parts—revolutionised that industry. The old-legacy companies are scrambling and cannot see a path to the future. We have an extraordinary opportunity to become a leader if we build the market for ultra-low-emission vehicles and driverless vehicles in this country, and allow in the R&D and the jobs that can come with the related manufacturing. I hope that the Government will continue their commitment to that sector which was almost solely driven by Danny Alexander. I know that Oliver Letwin is also a big proponent of it. It is crucial that it continues to thrive because of the opportunities that it presents.

I see that my time is virtually up. I just want to say what an exciting time this, but let me add one very small caveat. It is the European Union. It is critical to us that we remain part of that single market if we are to have this exciting future that potentially sits in front of us. We are seriously at risk of talking this country out of the EU. I direct my comments particularly at the Conservative Benches and ask them, please, to stop the indulgence of the right wing, which is inward-looking and does not understand the dynamics of the market and the new opportunities, and to make sure that Britain is properly positioned as a world and European player with skills and investment and able to welcome and take advantage of those new disruptive technologies.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:00 am 
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Look at Uber. No matter how we feel about the black cab company, it seems that younger people have found Uber to be effective. However, as people in this House have said, it is a company that does not own a single taxi.


And you, dear Baroness, have been responsible for its rise.

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 Post subject: Re: Lords Debates
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So they love Amazon and Uber, but in the next debate they'll be berating small individual business owners for not paying their full taxes, yet are happy to watch billions get syphoned to off shore tax havens?

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GBC wrote:
So they love Amazon and Uber, but in the next debate they'll be berating small individual business owners for not paying their full taxes, yet are happy to watch billions get syphoned to off shore tax havens?

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ANOTHER EXAMPLE WHY JC IS PROVING SO POPULAR HE WILL SORT OUT THESE BARONESSE'S AND JOHN MAC WILL HAMMER THE TAX AVOIDING TORY SUPPORTING SCUM =D> =D> =D> =D>

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John McDonald is probably ten times more qualified to hold the post of Chancellor than the current twit.

He has an impressive education and business experience unlike baby face who spent his time drinking in the Bullingdon Club and went onto lick envelopes at tory HQ.


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John McDonald is probably ten times more qualified to hold the post of Chancellor than the current twit.

He has an impressive education and business experience unlike baby face who spent his time drinking in the Bullingdon Club and went onto lick envelopes at tory HQ.


=D> =D> =D>

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GBC wrote:
John McDonald is probably ten times more qualified to hold the post of Chancellor than the current twit.

He has an impressive education and business experience unlike baby face who spent his time drinking in the Bullingdon Club and went onto lick envelopes at tory HQ.


Its John McDonnell actually great lad known him for yonks done loads with him and recommended him frequently on here over the years
on here ..................................if he gets into power TAX AVOIDING SH!T will be hammered =D> =D> =D>

www.john-mcdonnell.net will give loads more one of the few MP's i would wholeheartedly trust =D>

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GBC wrote:
So they love Amazon and Uber, but in the next debate they'll be berating small individual business owners for not paying their full taxes, yet are happy to watch billions get syphoned to off shore tax havens?

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of course because no doubt they are hoping for a nice little invite to be on the board or offered a consultancy :-k

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