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in your opinion, when was the last time that it wasn't f****d up?


I would think that you have to go back before Thatcher to say that it was less f^c%ed up than what it now is.

I reckon between Thatcher, Bliar/Brown + Cameron/Osborne and then chuck in the EC membership/ownership, you then have all of the ingredients of guaranteed failure (for the populations - not financial failure for them).

Greed has been the overall cause of the worlds financial problems encouraged by people at the top. The companies are making vulgar profits that are not being fairly distributed i.e a certain amount of money needs to be recirculated to keep capitalism running, unfortunately that is not happening. I tend to liken it to a game of monopoly; When the money is all in one corner of the board the rest are screwed....and that is where we are.

Of course with greed you then want more!

Britain being Britain just cannot let go of its crusading genetics and still has to go to war on numerous occasions since WW2. The consequence of doing so is that you make even more enemies from around the world, probably only second to America who are similar to us, or the other way round if you prefer. Unfortunately although there are thousands of miles, and numerous countries between us and other troubled nations - we have to interfere in their affairs, not because we care! usually because of mineral wealth ie the greed as already mentioned. In doing so you make enemies - dangerous enemies. People then get sucked in by thinking that we MUST have bigger and better weapons i.e Trident/nukes when in actual fact the last one was used over 70 years ago with many seeing the consequence of doing so....and will probably never do it again.

What we now have caused through greed, is that the likes of Bliar/Cameron/Merkel see every foreigner coming in as a taxable person i.e money for the coffers of the treasury and profits of whatever company they work for, in turn keeping the wages down, equaling even more profit for them and their mates. This will be controlled by surveillance, phone tapping and the 3000 + laws that Bliar and his crew brought in. It is a fact that they (the enemy) will never get near them as they have a massive budget for their own protection, however our demise will probably put down as casualties (not quite the same as dead apparently - they do not like to call a spade..a spade, so they dress it up). Remember the London bombings....Bliar and the Queen put the spiel about that Londoners did not cower in WW2 due to bombing, then imploring them to be back on the streets tomorrow, to be back on the trains and the buses....Londoners do not back down etc we will not be beaten blah blah blah....did you see Bliar or the Queen on a bus or train? My point being is that I do not suck up nationalistic BS, unfortunately many do. Having said that if my neighbour/whoever is in trouble then they will get my help if needed, I guess I am more for the people - every day people.

I could go on and on writing page upon page, to then get a one line question/put down, so I will not go a lot further. The bottom line being is that we are basically cannon fodder being used by the so called elite, on that basis I am willing to try an unconventional person "Corbyn" as opposed to supposed conventional clean shaven/suits etc. Do I agree with all of his policies (No), but there again I do not agree with many of the policies of most of the political parties, so I have to balance as to what I think is right as to what is wrong, and then go with what I think is best. At the moment he will get my vote....until he shows anything that is really off of the wall.

A question for all..........Who would like to have Trident parked next to the house that they and their family live in, knowing full well that a world power will have a red circle around that neck of the woods in the event of someone pushing a button.......just a thought?

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I love how a man who talks straight and supports equality for all is suddenly 'extreme left wing'

That must make the current mob the 'far right'


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I love how a man who talks straight and supports equality for all is suddenly 'extreme left wing'

That must make the current mob the 'far right'


Oi Stay up to pace please :wink:

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In my opinion far right policies are damaging this country very badly, to rectify that situation it needs a radical switch to the left - to then come back to the center.

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xample: Enter words from a persons name, occupation, home town, where to they moved to, or other key words
The Black Book 1940


The ‘Black book’ was a popularised name of the **** ‘special wanted arrest list’ drawn up for the immediate period after a successful **** invasion in 1940.

An invasion that was, thankfully, never to be, largely as a result of the ‘Battle of Britain’ culminating in September that year with air supremacy retained by the British RAF, and the fact that Britain still had the most powerful navy in the world - making a sea & airborne **** invasion impossible.

The original name in German is ‘Sonderfahndungsliste GB’ which means ‘(es)special(ly)/most wanted list –GB’ (GB- Gross Britannien –Great Britain).

Similar lists were drawn up and, indeed, used for the USSR, France, Poland etc, thankfully the only place in the British Isles that experienced these roundups was the Channel islands, although the rest of the UK after a successful invasion may well have had a similar pattern.

More Information on the Black Book
The list itself


A list of 144 pages containing 2820 names of Politicians, writers, emigrees, known intelligence agents, scientists and artists was drawn up by SS General Walter Schellenbergs office.

Schellenberg was to become the ‘Police’ chief responsible for GB after an invasion, the main Gestapo offices were to be based in Birmingham.

The list shows the department of the RSHA (Reichssicherheitshauptamt- Reich security service) which would investigate each individual, this often gives insight into what ‘crimes’ the individual was suspected of having been involved in.

It's interesting to note that some of those listed are wanted by multiple departments, although which order would be used to decide which department had priority is unknown.

There seems to be little written evidence that those 'wanted' would have any collective 'fate' as such, although some would obviously have more to fear than others based on what we knew after 1942 of the Holocaust and concentration camps (i.e. Jews, Communists and ex **** defectors), however no arrest or incarceration would have been pleasant.

In 1940 there were 450,000 persons of direct Jewish descent in the UK, all of whom would have been 'enemys' to the Nazis, and any indirect family connection after that, then the Freemasons and so on


You never know how lucky you are... :D

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:26 pm 
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The Tories have been through exactly what Labour are going through at the moment. When John major lost to Tony Blair he was replaces first by William Haig (too young) then Iain Duncan Smith (too bald) and Michael Howard (not up to it) before settling on David Cameron. Labour have tried Ed milliband (stabbed his brother in the back) and now Jeremy Corbyn (un-electable due to having a beard) So they have another couple of leaders to get through before they will find the "chosen one". Corbyn may appeal to Labour party members but I doubt that he will appeal to the Labour party voters unless he changes some of his policies to be more middle of the road than left wing. I can't see the majority of the British public going along with the shadow cabinet minister who want to honour members of the IRA. TT may like that idea though. That kind of policy will be about as welcome as a fart in a lift.


Christ yer a philistine Grandad ...........................without talks with the IRA started by Ken Livingstone John McDonnell and JC there would have been no opportunity for Major Blair and THE VON WINDSOR HOARE to meet them and celebrate a certain type pf PEACE #-o

IRA members that defended their communities from murderous attacks by BRITISH FORCES will always be honored by ME and their communities =D> =D>

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:30 pm 
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xample: Enter words from a persons name, occupation, home town, where to they moved to, or other key words
The Black Book 1940


The ‘Black book’ was a popularised name of the **** ‘special wanted arrest list’ drawn up for the immediate period after a successful **** invasion in 1940.

An invasion that was, thankfully, never to be, largely as a result of the ‘Battle of Britain’ culminating in September that year with air supremacy retained by the British RAF, and the fact that Britain still had the most powerful navy in the world - making a sea & airborne **** invasion impossible.

The original name in German is ‘Sonderfahndungsliste GB’ which means ‘(es)special(ly)/most wanted list –GB’ (GB- Gross Britannien –Great Britain).

Similar lists were drawn up and, indeed, used for the USSR, France, Poland etc, thankfully the only place in the British Isles that experienced these roundups was the Channel islands, although the rest of the UK after a successful invasion may well have had a similar pattern.

More Information on the Black Book
The list itself


A list of 144 pages containing 2820 names of Politicians, writers, emigrees, known intelligence agents, scientists and artists was drawn up by SS General Walter Schellenbergs office.

Schellenberg was to become the ‘Police’ chief responsible for GB after an invasion, the main Gestapo offices were to be based in Birmingham.

The list shows the department of the RSHA (Reichssicherheitshauptamt- Reich security service) which would investigate each individual, this often gives insight into what ‘crimes’ the individual was suspected of having been involved in.

It's interesting to note that some of those listed are wanted by multiple departments, although which order would be used to decide which department had priority is unknown.

There seems to be little written evidence that those 'wanted' would have any collective 'fate' as such, although some would obviously have more to fear than others based on what we knew after 1942 of the Holocaust and concentration camps (i.e. Jews, Communists and ex **** defectors), however no arrest or incarceration would have been pleasant.

In 1940 there were 450,000 persons of direct Jewish descent in the UK, all of whom would have been 'enemys' to the Nazis, and any indirect family connection after that, then the Freemasons and so on


You never know how lucky you are... :D


As usual yer ignorance or is it bias prevents you from mentioning those top of the list were of Course Trade Unionists and Socialists who were of course incarcerated murdered in Germany long before the Jews ...................get it right you fekking PILLOK

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GBC wrote:
I love how a man who talks straight and supports equality for all is suddenly 'extreme left wing'

That must make the current mob the 'far right'



Far right of course their currently murdering people in our country ......................................JC extreme LEFT :badgrin: :badgrin: you should spend an hour or 2 with John McDonnel and meself.................................there will be an opportunity in November should yer fancy it GBC :D

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in your opinion, when was the last time that it wasn't f****d up?


I would think that you have to go back before Thatcher to say that it was less f^c%ed up than what it now is.

I reckon between Thatcher, Bliar/Brown + Cameron/Osborne and then chuck in the EC membership/ownership, you then have all of the ingredients of guaranteed failure (for the populations - not financial failure for them).

Greed has been the overall cause of the worlds financial problems encouraged by people at the top. The companies are making vulgar profits that are not being fairly distributed i.e a certain amount of money needs to be recirculated to keep capitalism running, unfortunately that is not happening. I tend to liken it to a game of monopoly; When the money is all in one corner of the board the rest are screwed....and that is where we are.

Of course with greed you then want more!

Britain being Britain just cannot let go of its crusading genetics and still has to go to war on numerous occasions since WW2. The consequence of doing so is that you make even more enemies from around the world, probably only second to America who are similar to us, or the other way round if you prefer. Unfortunately although there are thousands of miles, and numerous countries between us and other troubled nations - we have interfere in their affairs, not because we care! usually because of mineral wealth ie the greed as already mentioned. In doing so you make enemies - dangerous enemies. People then get sucked in by thinking that we MUST have bigger and better weapons i.e Trident/nukes when in actual fact the last one was used over 70 years ago with many seeing the consequence of doing so....and will probably never do it again.

What we now have caused through greed, is that the likes of Bliar/Cameron/Merkel see every foreigner coming in as a taxable person i.e money for the coffers of the treasury and profits of whatever company they work for, in turn keeping the wages down, equaling even more profit for them and their mates. This will be controlled by surveillance, phone tapping and the 3000 + laws that Bliar and his crew brought in. It is a fact that they (the enemy) will never get near them as they have a massive budget for their own protection, however our demise will probably put down a casualties (not quite the same as dead apparently - they do not like to call a spade..a spade, so they dress it up). Remember the London bombings....Bliar and the Queen put the spiel about that Londoners did not cower in WW2 due to bombing, then imploring them to be back on the streets tomorrow, to be back on the trains and the buses....Londoners do not back down etc we will not be beaten blah blah blah....did you see Bliar or the Queen on a bus or train? My point being is that I do not suck up nationalistic BS, unfortunately many do. Having said that if my neighbour/whoever is in trouble then they will get my help if needed, I guess I am more for the people - every day people.

I could go on and on writing page upon page, to then get a one line question/put down, so I will not go a lot further. The bottom line being is that we are basically cannon fodder being used by the so called elite, on that basis I am willing to try an unconventional person "Corbyn" as opposed to supposed conventional clean shaven/suits etc. Do I agree with all of his policies (No), but there again I do not agree with many of the policies of most of the political parties, so I have to balance as to what I think is right as to what is wrong, and then go with what I think is best. At the moment he will get my vote....until he shows anything that is really off of the wall.

A question for all..........Who would like to have Trident parked next to the house that they and their family live in, knowing full well that a world power will have a red circle around that neck of the woods in the event of someone pushing a button.......just a thought?


your writing some excellent stuff there Taffy ..........................wasted upon most of the dopes on here #-o

MIND 2500O NEW MEMBERS SINCE SATURDAY .............................SOME ARE GETTING THE MESSAGE :badgrin: HENCE THE DESPERATE FRANTIC MACHINATIONS BY THE BEEB AND ITV ALONG OF COURSE WITH DAILY HEIL AND SCUM GOOD ON JC FOR REFUSING TO TALK TO THE SCUM HEIL.............................................ITS LOOKING GOOD TO ME =D> =D> =D> =D>

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Another Tory Government after this one then.


BEEN IN THE ARMY OR NAVY HAVE YER LOOBY :D

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Bart wrote:
Whilst Tories flinch and Blarites sneer, we'll keep the red flag flying here.

I was one of the 15,000 that joined the party yesterday. Rejoined in my case, I left when Kinnock kicked Hatton out of the party.

Jez we did :)


SO YOU RAN AWAY WHEN A FIGHT WAS NEEDED #-o #-o

ANY WAY WELCOME BACK YOUVE TAKEN THE FIRST STEP NOW TAKE THE SECOND GET INVOLVELD

TARGET A GENERA\L STRIKE WITHIN 2 YEARS AND JC PRIME MINISTER STRAIGHT AFTER WE FORCE THE VERMIN TO RESIGN AND WIPE THE KKUNTS ORF THE MAP =D> =D> =D> =D> :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :lol: 8) 8)

JEZ WE WILL =D> =D>

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So Arsenals MP and supporter gets the Job hardly surprising :badgrin: :badgrin:

Labour under Jezza will flourish because he will force DEBATE and discussion on this Tory Vermins attacks upon the innocent and the Blairite quislings betrayal's

Looks good to me =D> =D> =D>



When he said "he's going to protest with the refugees" is when he lost the little credibility he had left. The man is a fuckin idiot Trots.



BEING A DESCENDANT OF IMMIGRANTS MESELF REFUGEES FROM THE HUNGER I AGREE WITH JC WE NEED TO ASSIST THE VICTIMS OF THESE WARS CREATED BY THE UK USA AND OF COURSE THAT CESS PIT ISRAEL 8)

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xample: Enter words from a persons name, occupation, home town, where to they moved to, or other key words
The Black Book 1940


The ‘Black book’ was a popularised name of the **** ‘special wanted arrest list’ drawn up for the immediate period after a successful **** invasion in 1940.

An invasion that was, thankfully, never to be, largely as a result of the ‘Battle of Britain’ culminating in September that year with air supremacy retained by the British RAF, and the fact that Britain still had the most powerful navy in the world - making a sea & airborne **** invasion impossible.

The original name in German is ‘Sonderfahndungsliste GB’ which means ‘(es)special(ly)/most wanted list –GB’ (GB- Gross Britannien –Great Britain).

Similar lists were drawn up and, indeed, used for the USSR, France, Poland etc, thankfully the only place in the British Isles that experienced these roundups was the Channel islands, although the rest of the UK after a successful invasion may well have had a similar pattern.

More Information on the Black Book
The list itself


A list of 144 pages containing 2820 names of Politicians, writers, emigrees, known intelligence agents, scientists and artists was drawn up by SS General Walter Schellenbergs office.

Schellenberg was to become the ‘Police’ chief responsible for GB after an invasion, the main Gestapo offices were to be based in Birmingham.

The list shows the department of the RSHA (Reichssicherheitshauptamt- Reich security service) which would investigate each individual, this often gives insight into what ‘crimes’ the individual was suspected of having been involved in.

It's interesting to note that some of those listed are wanted by multiple departments, although which order would be used to decide which department had priority is unknown.

There seems to be little written evidence that those 'wanted' would have any collective 'fate' as such, although some would obviously have more to fear than others based on what we knew after 1942 of the Holocaust and concentration camps (i.e. Jews, Communists and ex **** defectors), however no arrest or incarceration would have been pleasant.

In 1940 there were 450,000 persons of direct Jewish descent in the UK, all of whom would have been 'enemys' to the Nazis, and any indirect family connection after that, then the Freemasons and so on


You never know how lucky you are... :D


As usual yer ignorance or is it bias prevents you from mentioning those top of the list were of Course Trade Unionists and Socialists who were of course incarcerated murdered in Germany long before the Jews ...................get it right you fekking PILLOK



You never seem to have more then one brain sell working at the same time.......A sane person might think .....No matter how bad things are now....It could have been a lot worse,,,,

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Nice to see the good old British Press in turbomong mode about the new leader of the Labour Party

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No matter how bad things are now....It could have been a lot worse,,,,


Trevor I take your point. But! what might have been, and what actually is - is two different things.

My take on a bad day when everything is against me is this; I don't live in Afghanistan,I don't live in Iraq, I don't live in Syria and for that I am thankful, it helps me very much to put my problems (or my perceived problems) into perspective. Having said that it still does stop me from trying to improve my life, as we cannot dwell on what might have been. If you did that you would never get out of bed.

Hey still no takers.........

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A question for all..........Who would like to have Trident parked next to the house that they and their family live in, knowing full well that a world power will have a red circle around that neck of the woods in the event of someone pushing a button.......just a thought?


I guess that should shut up the we should keep Trident brigade, I guess that Corbyn is not such a fool after all.

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