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 Post subject: Re: Volkswagon engines
PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:06 am 
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Allegedly the TX4 has the same soft wear :shock: :shock: :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: Volkswagon engines
PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:19 am 
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I remember the report of a Spanish lorry driver turning up at Gibraltar near Skeggy. he was supposed to be at Gibraltar next to Spain but followed his sat nav. Not even the Channel Tunnel aroused his suspicion.



Your kidding right? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh no. It was in the papers.

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 Post subject: Re: Volkswagon engines
PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:37 am 
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all of a sudden diesel is the bad guy

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 Post subject: Re: Volkswagon engines
PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:13 am 
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all of a sudden diesel is the bad guy



Because now it suits politicians to diesel bash

But lets face it VW vehicles are not what they are claimed to be anyway my experience is unreliable and NOT built to last relying on people not trying to achieve high mileages. I certainly would never buy a VW again after my experiences alright for tripping to and from a supermarket or school but as a working vehicle steer well clear. They cut corners on everything and now they have been found out

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 Post subject: Re: Volkswagon engines
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This is a software issue, with code in there to reduce the fuel flow under test conditions, whats the worry?

ill kick off if HMG/VOSA try to up my road tax but it still does 62mpg in general useage, as i expected

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 Post subject: Re: Volkswagon engines
PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 7:33 pm 
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BMW implicated in Volkswagen emissions scandal


The fallout following the Volkswagen NOx emissions scandal has now spilled way beyond the company, with fellow German manufacturer BMW seeing its value plunge today as one of its models is also implicated in emissions test cheating.

German weekly car magazine Auto Bild revealed this morning that its tests on the X3 xDrive 20d showed it emits NOx at a rate 11 times legally allowed in Europe. The news is further confirmation that emissions test cheating is both rife and worldwide, after Volkswagen yesterday admitted it had rigged tests in Europe too.

BMW’s shares have today dropped by a startling nine percent, while Daimler, Fiat, Peugeot and Renault have all seen their share values drop by between four and seven per cent, as the scandal deepens.

The emissions scandal is already shaping into the biggest crisis that the automotive industry has ever faced, with suspicion placed on every major car manufacturer.

BMW was one of those quick to distance itself from cheating in emissions tests after Volkswagen admitted doing so in the US, which instantly saw billions wiped from its value - currently €13bn and counting.

Reacting to Auto Bild’s revelation today, BMW has reiterated that it does not "manipulate or rig any emissions tests."

"We observe the legal requirements in each country and adhere to all local testing requirements. When it comes to our vehicles, there is no difference in the treatment of exhaust emissions whether they are on rollers or on the road," said the company in a statement.

Volkswagen CEO Martin Winterkorn resigned yesterday, calling the scandal a grave crisis and promising a 'fresh start' for the company. Separately, Volkswagen followed by stating that 'internal group investigations are continuing at a high tempo.'

To recap, the issue relates to a 'cheat device' fitted to a specific Volkswagen 2.0-litre four-cylinder diesel engine, internally codenamed EA189, and fitted to 11 million vehicles in the US since 2009.

The cheat device, fitted between the engine and the exhaust system, detects specific driving patterns so that it can alter the characteristics of the car when a rolling road emissions test is being performed.

The device specifically reduces Nitrous oxides emissions (NOx), which are linked to exacerbating and even causing respiratory disease, but doing so increases the car’s fuel consumption. When not in use, the car is more efficient but, it’s been discovered, releases huge amounts of NOx.

Volkswagen has already admitted that its other mainstream brands – Skoda, SEAT and Audi – use the engine in question, with a Spanish newspaper today claiming that SEAT has used 500,000 since 2009. It’s believed that a Volkswagen 1.6-litre diesel engine could be using the same system too, though this is yet to be confirmed.

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/miscel ... -scandall/

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 Post subject: Re: Volkswagon engines
PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 7:51 pm 
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Unless the German government decide to underwrite the world wide costs then I can see VW filing for bankruptcy/protection of some sort. Unlike BP who could afford the fall out of the Gulf disaster, I am not sure that anyone else/VW can do the same.

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 Post subject: Re: Volkswagon engines
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I'd also be worried concerning the future of diesel fuel.

http://www.cheatsheet.com/automobiles/a ... ?a=viewall

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 Post subject: Re: Volkswagon engines
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Private Reggie wrote:
I'd also be worried concerning the future of diesel fuel.

http://www.cheatsheet.com/automobiles/a ... ?a=viewall


What do most HGV's, Coaches, Diesel Locos and ships run on?....erm..........

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 Post subject: Re: Volkswagon engines
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German b*stards

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Economic attack, first the oil fecking the Russians next the German car makers, fecking the European car market, could this be the American assault for global dominance :-({|= Could be a case for Sherlock :---) :---)

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 Post subject: Re: Volkswagon engines
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Economic attack, first the oil fecking the Russians next the German car makers, fecking the European car market, could this be the American assault for global dominance :-({|= Could be a case for Sherlock :---) :---)


but the SNP want you in Europe!

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 Post subject: Re: Volkswagon engines
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Economic attack, first the oil fecking the Russians next the German car makers, fecking the European car market, could this be the American assault for global dominance :-({|= Could be a case for Sherlock :---) :---)


but the SNP want you in Europe!

Looking at our options I'd say Europe is the preffered option, unless UK becomes a Republic, not going to happen though is it? Mmmm :doubt:

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 Post subject: Re: Volkswagon engines
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Private Reggie wrote:
Looking at our options I'd say Europe is the preffered option, unless UK becomes a Republic, not going to happen though is it? Mmmm :doubt:



what difference would a republic make ffs

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 Post subject: Re: Volkswagon engines
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Private Reggie wrote:
Economic attack, first the oil fecking the Russians next the German car makers, fecking the European car market, could this be the American assault for global dominance :-({|= Could be a case for Sherlock :---) :---)

Makes a lot of sense to me. :roll:

US as a hegemony can only survive by weakening its biggest trading partner[EU] and anyone who can supply EU. Having issues controlling silk roads makes it easy to target Germany by bankrupting its export manufacturers.

The US produced and exported/sold crazy fuel guzzlers and emission crazed engines. But now European manufacturers are targeted. Jap cars are even worse, did you here any testing on Jap cars? Hear any talk of Oil Sands in Canada? Where does that oil go to?????

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