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what difference would a republic make ffs

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Britain would be better off as a Republic. There are many reasons why Britain would benefit from a more democratic country, free from 'The Crown'.

The Monarchy are a relic of the past, an oppressive past. We as taxpayers currently give £150 million each year to the Monarchy, which includes their 'wages' and security to guard them. In fact £100 million is set aside for their security personnel...

Over the course of the last 10 years that's 1.5 Billion pounds, and what do they do for their money- very little. People argue that Monarchy bring in a lot of money via tourism, but surely if the Monarchy were removed from the Constitution then they would become even more of a tourist attraction- 'The Monarchy That was...'
Tourists would be more likely to spend money visiting Britain knowing that their money was going into a Republic, not a Monarch dictatorship.

It is a dictatorship. Each new Prime Minister has to report to the Queen on day one,outlining the new Government policies and ideas. The Queen's Speech is not her own but a summary of what Government suggests, so what's the point in her speech at all?

There are hundreds of 'quangos' in British politics- people not elected but who get paid taxpayers money for rubbing shoulders with Government- they are private oragnisations ,some of who end up in The House of Lords.
A good example is Alan Sugar- now Lord Alan Sugar. The Lords have over 360 pounds per day to spend of taxpayer's money. Those 'quangos' often get paid massive amounts, and more than 50 of them get paid more than the Prime Minister. They acount for more than 10 percent of public spending, and employ about 90 000 staff. Our country is corrupted by those rich quangos- they don't get elected or reviewed, and the public never hears about them.
Has the Queen done anything to address their secrecy? The Monarchy probabl;y approved the appointment of a lot of the 'quangos'.

The Queen, Princes, Duke and Baronesses , and all the other 'Royal-blood line'
people get millions from the taxpayer just for being them. It really is sickening to see the U.K. slave to an ideology. We pay the most amount of tax, and have some of the lowest wages in the developed World.

We have a shortage of available housing in the U.K.- an estimated 5 million homes need to be built to cope with U.K. demand.
Instead of expanding housing in the U.K. ,we have a system which gives 150 million per year to an already rich Monarchy,millions to the House of Lords and about 1000 quangos... It was reported that often 10 migrant workers have to live together in one house due to the lack of housing, which is a health and safety risk to them. Often people on council housing lists are put down the list in favour of refugees and migrants, which is due to lack of available housing.

Another report recently looked at the number of countries and islands which still pledge allegiance to the Queen which are actually hiding tens of billions of pounds of taxpayers money. There are about 17 of them, some are known to be tax-havens. Rich businesmen, quangos,Royals and other wealthy people don't invest their money in Britain but send it to various locations around the World to hide it , to avoid paying tax. Monarchs have done this in the past- to make sure they always have cash at hand.

The Monarchy needs to be abandoned not just in Britain but around the World.
Australia is another country looking to become a Republic. It was formed by British laws, with a whites-only policy which created racism in Australia. The country is now very multicultural, and having lived there I noted that the new generations are more understanding of what a Republic means to them. Australia and many other countries would be better off freeing themselves from the allegiance to the British Crown. It is now America that does the command-and-conquer game. The U.S and Britain are known as the British American Empire these days- a bully which stems from Royal bullying, to achieve financial and militarial superiority.

If Britain could shake the old-fashioned Monarchy, we would save a lot of money for investing in Britain, the Monarchy would become just a tourist attraction and historical theme and Britain would benefit financially and be able to create a new constitiution which does not put British citizens under the 'Royals' and does not call its citizens 'strangers' .

This is a modern World. Britain hangs on to the oppressive, pompous old Monarch-worshipping ways. Many of our politicians are Royal supporters because they enjoy the 'status' of Britain's Monarchy and the power Britain used to have over the centuries. They don't want to admit that the British Empire doesn't really exist anymore, and we the taxpayers just prop up the relic which is the Monarchy.

Many other countries are truly democratic and have moved away from the Royal theme. Saudi Arabia is another monarchy, and their people are oppressed even more so- they don't get a chance to vote. In reality we don't get to vote for many aspects of our Government- The House of Lords are not voted in by the Public, the quangos are never mentioned or investigated, we don't get a vote for the Monarchy members, or get to choose how much the Royal family get in 'wages' and expenditures...

We live in a Medieval Britain, yet it's the 21st Century. We've wasted enough taxes on the 'Crown' and seen our housing crisis and financial sector become a posh-sub-Royal bunch of money grabbers, acting like Royalty but in reality are just a group of well-organized criminals.

If the government of the day doesn't measure up to our expectations, we, the people, can vote it out of office. We have no such power when it comes to the Monarchy. Politicians cannot even raise the subject in Parliament. At the very least, the British people should have the right to periodically decide whether the institution of Monarchy should continue or not. Anything less than this is a denial of true democracy

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Britain would be better off as a Republic. There are many reasons why Britain would benefit from a more democratic country, free from 'The Crown'.

The Monarchy are a relic of the past, an oppressive past. We as taxpayers currently give £150 million each year to the Monarchy, which includes their 'wages' and security to guard them. In fact £100 million is set aside for their security personnel...

Over the course of the last 10 years that's 1.5 Billion pounds, and what do they do for their money- very little. People argue that Monarchy bring in a lot of money via tourism, but surely if the Monarchy were removed from the Constitution then they would become even more of a tourist attraction- 'The Monarchy That was...'
Tourists would be more likely to spend money visiting Britain knowing that their money was going into a Republic, not a Monarch dictatorship.

It is a dictatorship. Each new Prime Minister has to report to the Queen on day one,outlining the new Government policies and ideas. The Queen's Speech is not her own but a summary of what Government suggests, so what's the point in her speech at all?

There are hundreds of 'quangos' in British politics- people not elected but who get paid taxpayers money for rubbing shoulders with Government- they are private oragnisations ,some of who end up in The House of Lords.
A good example is Alan Sugar- now Lord Alan Sugar. The Lords have over 360 pounds per day to spend of taxpayer's money. Those 'quangos' often get paid massive amounts, and more than 50 of them get paid more than the Prime Minister. They acount for more than 10 percent of public spending, and employ about 90 000 staff. Our country is corrupted by those rich quangos- they don't get elected or reviewed, and the public never hears about them.
Has the Queen done anything to address their secrecy? The Monarchy probabl;y approved the appointment of a lot of the 'quangos'.

The Queen, Princes, Duke and Baronesses , and all the other 'Royal-blood line'
people get millions from the taxpayer just for being them. It really is sickening to see the U.K. slave to an ideology. We pay the most amount of tax, and have some of the lowest wages in the developed World.

We have a shortage of available housing in the U.K.- an estimated 5 million homes need to be built to cope with U.K. demand.
Instead of expanding housing in the U.K. ,we have a system which gives 150 million per year to an already rich Monarchy,millions to the House of Lords and about 1000 quangos... It was reported that often 10 migrant workers have to live together in one house due to the lack of housing, which is a health and safety risk to them. Often people on council housing lists are put down the list in favour of refugees and migrants, which is due to lack of available housing.

Another report recently looked at the number of countries and islands which still pledge allegiance to the Queen which are actually hiding tens of billions of pounds of taxpayers money. There are about 17 of them, some are known to be tax-havens. Rich businesmen, quangos,Royals and other wealthy people don't invest their money in Britain but send it to various locations around the World to hide it , to avoid paying tax. Monarchs have done this in the past- to make sure they always have cash at hand.

The Monarchy needs to be abandoned not just in Britain but around the World.
Australia is another country looking to become a Republic. It was formed by British laws, with a whites-only policy which created racism in Australia. The country is now very multicultural, and having lived there I noted that the new generations are more understanding of what a Republic means to them. Australia and many other countries would be better off freeing themselves from the allegiance to the British Crown. It is now America that does the command-and-conquer game. The U.S and Britain are known as the British American Empire these days- a bully which stems from Royal bullying, to achieve financial and militarial superiority.

If Britain could shake the old-fashioned Monarchy, we would save a lot of money for investing in Britain, the Monarchy would become just a tourist attraction and historical theme and Britain would benefit financially and be able to create a new constitiution which does not put British citizens under the 'Royals' and does not call its citizens 'strangers' .

This is a modern World. Britain hangs on to the oppressive, pompous old Monarch-worshipping ways. Many of our politicians are Royal supporters because they enjoy the 'status' of Britain's Monarchy and the power Britain used to have over the centuries. They don't want to admit that the British Empire doesn't really exist anymore, and we the taxpayers just prop up the relic which is the Monarchy.

Many other countries are truly democratic and have moved away from the Royal theme. Saudi Arabia is another monarchy, and their people are oppressed even more so- they don't get a chance to vote. In reality we don't get to vote for many aspects of our Government- The House of Lords are not voted in by the Public, the quangos are never mentioned or investigated, we don't get a vote for the Monarchy members, or get to choose how much the Royal family get in 'wages' and expenditures...

We live in a Medieval Britain, yet it's the 21st Century. We've wasted enough taxes on the 'Crown' and seen our housing crisis and financial sector become a posh-sub-Royal bunch of money grabbers, acting like Royalty but in reality are just a group of well-organized criminals.

If the government of the day doesn't measure up to our expectations, we, the people, can vote it out of office. We have no such power when it comes to the Monarchy. Politicians cannot even raise the subject in Parliament. At the very least, the British people should have the right to periodically decide whether the institution of Monarchy should continue or not. Anything less than this is a denial of true democracy

I should have added, a Republic with full control, a real democracy, no euro quango's in the republic I support

Off with the fekkers heads

I doubt that your republic exists anywhere.

Makes a lot of sense to me.

US as a hegemony can only survive by weakening its biggest trading partner[EU] and anyone who can supply EU. Having issues controlling silk roads makes it easy to target Germany by bankrupting its export manufacturers.

The US produced and exported/sold crazy fuel guzzlers and emission crazed engines. But now European manufacturers are targeted. Jap cars are even worse, did you here any testing on Jap cars? Hear any talk of Oil Sands in Canada? Where does that oil go to?????

This a Modern world Grandad, the Republic I see is one of high morale amongst it's people, a Republic that is about priorities based on needs, Republicanism is on the march, the world could become a better place if we cut out ruling for governing, the British way is dying, our youth will see it out, our youth will bring in the new, our monarchy will change with that, there may always be a place for it but not in its present form, it should stop being significant after the Queen dies, as far as tourism goes, the buildings don't fall down or get sold off, they remain as its history does, as happens in Italy, the Romans are long gone but Italy makes a fortune from its history, I'll be voting No in the EU referendum and as I am pursue Britain to become a modern Republic based on a social democrat ideology, if the vote is Yes to stay in the EU and there is no chance of a republic then I'll pursue again Scottish independence and seek republicanism that way, Grandad it's all about a True Democracy, it can be had

P.s I don't care what the older generation think, they've been brainwashed, it's too late, it's all about tomorrow

I should have added, a Republic with full control, a real democracy...
This a Modern world Grandad, the Republic I see is one of high morale amongst it's people, a Republic that is about priorities based on needs, Republicanism is on the march, the world could become a better place if we cut out ruling for governing...
P.s I don't care what the older generation think, they've been brainwashed, it's too late, it's all about tomorrow

American diesel, is totally different to the EU stuff, basically oil is pumped out of the ground, and thinned down, and put in the tank

of course it is.