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Grandad is correct. A licensed hackney carriage vehicle can never be a private hire vehicle. What it can do, and be, is be pre-booked.

What about the vehicles licensed in one authority as hackneys but working in another as private hires ?
Yes, within their own authority they are hacks but in a different area they can only accept pre-bookings (aka private hire). The vehicle may be a hackney but the fare is a private hire !

Law states that a hackney is a vehicle that can stand on ranks and ply for hire, outside of their licensing district they can't do that - therefore they are by definition not a hackney vehicle, except in their own district !!

I can see your logic,but a Hackney is a Hackney,where ever it is.case law states this.so a Hackney is never ever a private hire no matter where or what it's doing.

its PLATED hackney but can only work as per a PHV out of area

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That's what I was meaning.
So if they're working as a PH out of area can they use that areas bus lanes ? Does the restriction relate to what the vehicle is licensed as or what it is being used for ?

Yes, unless the signs say local taxis only.

No.

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can a hackney take a mobile phone booking even if the journey does not start or end in it's licensed district ?

Yes.

There are no laws that says when and where and how a hackney can take a booking.

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well, unless the signs stipulate "local taxis only" you could fight any ticket

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This can be read 2 ways

Local buses...................and taxis

or

Local buses and (local) taxis

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Can a Hackney Driver who is licensed in a certain area, but lives in a different licensing area, still take bookings ? I asked our LO and he couldn't answer me.

Nobody ??????

I work as an independent hack and live outside the Borough that I work in, tbh I have not given it a second thought. I used to hand out business cards and often had people ring me at home on my mobile to pick them up at such and such a time. More often than not it was to pick them up in Cardiff and to take them home later. However if you are doing say an out of Town job and your phone goes i.e when out of Town, then I do not see anyone querying it as I am taking a booking - not flimping off the streets of another area.

As already mentioned by others you can take a booking, if there is no mention of anything else - then how can it stick?

A good question though.

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If a prosecution were to take place, the purpose or intent of the notice might be considered.

Buses taking fare paying passengers are routed, so all such buses would be 'local'. Coaches and other 'chartered' hires would not be permitted. The purpose of the lane being to ease the flow for fare paying passengers.
Of course a definition of 'local' is required. Driver address? National coach company with local address? Hirer address?

Any taxi however licensed anywhere might use the lane for the benefit of the fare paying passenger, and the public further served if lane allows taxi to return to its own area quicker?

And for the prosecution?