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 Post subject: Re: JUDGEMENT DAY
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:58 pm 
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Is the Uber pricing tech visible to the customer throughout the journey Toots? I say no

When price surging comes in to effect is the punter aware before and during the journey? I say no

Does the punter have an opt out if the journey is costing more than they budgeted for? I say no

Many times I've been told to stop At say £10.

Rounding down say 3.2 miles to 3 miles means over a day the cabbie loses out, a meter is precise to the yard and/or to the second, no advantage to driver or punter, in my opinion that's how it should be.

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 Post subject: Re: JUDGEMENT DAY
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Is the Uber pricing tech visible to the customer throughout the journey Toots? I say no

When price surging comes in to effect is the punter aware before and during the journey? I say no

Does the punter have an opt out if the journey is costing more than they budgeted for? I say no

Many times I've been told to stop At say £10.

Rounding down say 3.2 miles to 3 miles means over a day the cabbie loses out, a meter is precise to the yard and/or to the second, no advantage to driver or punter, in my opinion that's how it should be.


I'm led to believe that when you book an Uber it says how much the journey will cost prior to your acceptance so I'm not sure why it needs to be on display as well

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 Post subject: Re: JUDGEMENT DAY
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toots wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
Is the Uber pricing tech visible to the customer throughout the journey Toots? I say no

When price surging comes in to effect is the punter aware before and during the journey? I say no

Does the punter have an opt out if the journey is costing more than they budgeted for? I say no

Many times I've been told to stop At say £10.

Rounding down say 3.2 miles to 3 miles means over a day the cabbie loses out, a meter is precise to the yard and/or to the second, no advantage to driver or punter, in my opinion that's how it should be.


I'm led to believe that when you book an Uber it says how much the journey will cost prior to your acceptance so I'm not sure why it needs to be on display as well


I believe you get an estimate as it's impossible to give the exact fare as the fare is made up of a distance and time element.


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 Post subject: Re: JUDGEMENT DAY
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:49 pm 
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Private Reggie wrote:
Is the Uber pricing tech visible to the customer throughout the journey Toots? I say no

No, but the customer is given a range of what the price will be prior to booking, so they can either click yes, or no.

People can say many things about Uber, some of them true, but they can't say they hide their rates.

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 Post subject: Re: JUDGEMENT DAY
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:17 pm 
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Would you agree that the Uber surging strategy discriminates between affordable and unaffordable, Ubers thinking is, it increases supply at times of high demand, I'm thinking discrimination as only those who can afford a more expensive fare will gain a higher chance of getting a cab ride, whilst those who can't afford are left behind waiting for the surge to fall back to a normal price, the Uber surge pricing is not fair, I agree more money, a higher tarrif at times of high demand is a way to encourage more drivers to work the problem hours but surely no punter should be at a disadvantage over another where pricing is concerned, an acceptable 24 hour pricing regulation should be enforced to take into account supply and demand as it currently is in most LA's throughout the UK, why should Uber be allowed to operate surging when it could be argued it discriminates at times of high demand, 3,4,5,6 times the base rate how can this price surging be clear to the customer? It's not and it's an immoral way to charge for a service that should be about reliability, service and most importantly customer safety, customer safety is even more important at times of high demand, all animals are equal an aw that.

On the, "is the Uber meter visible to punters", I say it's not in the same way as a normal taxi meter is, I say every taxi/ph journey should show a clearly visible meter, visible to driver and punter

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 Post subject: Re: JUDGEMENT DAY
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Private Reggie wrote:
Would you agree that the Uber surging strategy discriminates between affordable and unaffordable, Ubers thinking is, it increases supply at times of high demand, I'm thinking discrimination as only those who can afford a more expensive fare will gain a higher chance of getting a cab ride, whilst those who can't afford are left behind waiting for the surge to fall back to a normal price, the Uber surge pricing is not fair, I agree more money, a higher tarrif at times of high demand is a way to encourage more drivers to work the problem hours but surely no punter should be at a disadvantage over another where pricing is concerned, an acceptable 24 hour pricing regulation should be enforced to take into account supply and demand as it currently is in most LA's throughout the UK, why should Uber be allowed to operate surging when it could be argued it discriminates at times of high demand, 3,4,5,6 times the base rate how can this price surging be clear to the customer? It's not and it's an immoral way to charge for a service that should be about reliability, service and most importantly customer safety, customer safety is even more important at times of high demand, all animals are equal an aw that.

On the, "is the Uber meter visible to punters", I say it's not in the same way as a normal taxi meter is, I say every taxi/ph journey should show a clearly visible meter, visible to driver and punter



Don't Taxis charge extra for unsocial hours?

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 Post subject: Re: JUDGEMENT DAY
PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:25 am 
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I have spent 15 years in this trade and I have never come across a time when taxis have said that ph should work in the same way as taxis, with meters etc until now. London's taxis and ph operators working together to get rid of a competitor, you make me laugh at the hypocracy of it all ffs :lol: über may not have it all right at the minute but they will either get it right or use their seemingly endless amount of money to change it. In my humble opinion all sides of the trade should buckle up for the ride and start figuring out how to keep the loyal customers they have now. They should put their energy in to keeping the respect they've earned thus far and increasing it, but no, they have decided to jump in to bed together and collectively slate a system that the public are enjoying at the moment. Let it destroy itself, let it's drivers realise it's not the saviour it's cracked up to be and the public see it's not always as 'uber' as it first appeared. I think it's here to stay and grow and go after lots of contract work. I don't think any part of our trade is safe from über and I think it's wasted energy giving über all the free publicity but hey wtf do I know. End of rant

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I have spent 15 years in this trade and I have never come across a time when taxis have said that ph should work in the same way as taxis, with meters etc until now. London's taxis and ph operators working together to get rid of a competitor, you make me laugh at the hypocracy of it all ffs :lol: über may not have it all right at the minute but they will either get it right or use their seemingly endless amount of money to change it. In my humble opinion all sides of the trade should buckle up for the ride and start figuring out how to keep the loyal customers they have now. They should put their energy in to keeping the respect they've earned thus far and increasing it, but no, they have decided to jump in to bed together and collectively slate a system that the public are enjoying at the moment. Let it destroy itself, let it's drivers realise it's not the saviour it's cracked up to be and the public see it's not always as 'uber' as it first appeared. I think it's here to stay and grow and go after lots of contract work. I don't think any part of our trade is safe from über and I think it's wasted energy giving über all the free publicity but hey wtf do I know. End of rant




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 Post subject: Re: JUDGEMENT DAY
PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 10:01 am 
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captain cab wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
Would you agree that the Uber surging strategy discriminates between affordable and unaffordable, Ubers thinking is, it increases supply at times of high demand, I'm thinking discrimination as only those who can afford a more expensive fare will gain a higher chance of getting a cab ride, whilst those who can't afford are left behind waiting for the surge to fall back to a normal price, the Uber surge pricing is not fair, I agree more money, a higher tarrif at times of high demand is a way to encourage more drivers to work the problem hours but surely no punter should be at a disadvantage over another where pricing is concerned, an acceptable 24 hour pricing regulation should be enforced to take into account supply and demand as it currently is in most LA's throughout the UK, why should Uber be allowed to operate surging when it could be argued it discriminates at times of high demand, 3,4,5,6 times the base rate how can this price surging be clear to the customer? It's not and it's an immoral way to charge for a service that should be about reliability, service and most importantly customer safety, customer safety is even more important at times of high demand, all animals are equal an aw that.

On the, "is the Uber meter visible to punters", I say it's not in the same way as a normal taxi meter is, I say every taxi/ph journey should show a clearly visible meter, visible to driver and punter



Don't Taxis charge extra for unsocial hours?

Let's call it a Party Tarrif :roll:

Our Party Tarrif's are fixed, up here there a few day's in the year where we charge Tarrif 3&4, the rest of the year it's a straightforward Tarrif 2&3.

Uber's model can surge to unaffordable levels, it's all about creating a supply to meet demand, the problem is it's not fixed, it doesn't have a ceiling like the norm, it works on a times 2,3,4,5,6,7 of their base rate, like having a Tarrif 2,3,4,5,6,7, " oh it's extremely busy let's use Tarrif 5", it's ripping off punters at times of high demand throughout the year, they know punters just want to get from A too B and some of those punters are willing to pay above the norm, what about the punters who can't afford the surged price, pricing should be clear 24/7, up here Tarrif 1&2 is clear, punters know how much their cab is going to cost, punters can budget their taxi home, with price surging punters could turn an expensive night out to a very expensive night out.

I'd rather book a taxi at a time of high demand that charges an affordable Tarrif and one that is regulated based on affordability/acceptable to driver and punter.

Toots we are not trying to get rid of a competitor, our aim is getting that competitor to accept local and national regulation where pricing is concerned.

MR T, using the word Canute :roll: great contribution =D> =D> =D> =D>

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 Post subject: Re: JUDGEMENT DAY
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Private Reggie wrote:

I'd rather book a taxi at a time of high demand that charges an affordable Tarrif and one that is regulated based on affordability/acceptable to driver and punter.

There is nothing to stop a punter booking a cab at a time of high demand through the usual channels.

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 Post subject: Re: JUDGEMENT DAY
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grandad wrote:
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There is nothing to stop a punter booking a cab at a time of high demand through the usual channels.


Apart from the obvious likelihood that when they ring they will be told there is nothing available at the moment.


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 Post subject: Re: JUDGEMENT DAY
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The Question is do we support regulated pricing or unregulated pricing? Some countries like Sweden have deregulated pricing, they can charge what they like :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: JUDGEMENT DAY
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Midlife martyr wrote:
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There is nothing to stop a punter booking a cab at a time of high demand through the usual channels.


Apart from the obvious likelihood that when they ring they will be told there is nothing available at the moment.

Why would that happen? All the current drivers are supposedly not going over to UBER so there should be no shortage of cars.

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 Post subject: Re: JUDGEMENT DAY
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Private Reggie wrote:
The Question is do we support regulated pricing or unregulated pricing? Some countries like Sweden have deregulated pricing, they can charge what they like :shock:


Ph doesn't have regulated pricing and it does just fine without it

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 Post subject: Re: JUDGEMENT DAY
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Uber are taking unregulated pricing to the extreme, is it ok to charge up to 10 times more for any journey and in the name of providing supply to meet demand, I'm saying we need regulation right across the board to stop companies like Uber charging extreme fares, nothing wrong with charging less but cmon charging a surged price is extreme.

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