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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 3:04 pm 
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34733862


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:21 pm 
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More fool the driver for falling for their drivel. How can a company who are based in America predict a driver is going to earn £15 an hour? One job paying you £10 could take you 30 minutes if the traffic is a nightmare.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:42 pm 
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Nidge2 wrote:
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More fool the driver for falling for their drivel. How can a company who are based in America predict a driver is going to earn £15 an hour? One job paying you £10 could take you 30 minutes if the traffic is a nightmare.

1 Job at £10 for 30 mins could mean 2 jobs at £10 for the hour so it would be £20 for the hour.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:51 pm 
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Drivers pay a fee to use the Uber technology. When a job comes up the nearest driver is offered it, otherwise it goes to the next person. For this, Uber takes a fee of 20%, soon to rise to 25% for new drivers.

that is just plain greedy or is it they are trying to pass on the costs of all those court cases to the drivers

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:39 pm 
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UK Uber drivers begin legal action over pay and benefits

Uber drivers have begun legal proceedings against the company to be classed as employees and earn related benefits.

The first formal UK legal proceedings against the San Francisco based company were issued at the London Central Employment Tribunal on behalf of British drivers.

Four claims were brought by law firm Leigh Day on behalf of the GMB union, regarding basic workers' rights.

These include an apparent failure by Uber to pay drivers a minimum wage and not provide any form of holiday pay.

They also claim Uber frequently deducts sums from drivers' pay without informing drivers in advance.

However, an Uber spokesman told WSB that it believed drivers were happy with the current working relationship.

Earlier this year, Uber unveiled a driver benefits programme centred around auto perks and lifestyle.

The case is the first one to be brought in the UK, but follows several brought in in the US.

According to law firm Leigh Day, a successful legal action against Uber could see substantial pay outs for drivers, including compensation for past failures by the company to make appropriate payments to what lawyers argue are their workers.

Leigh Day lawyer Nigel Mackay who is representing the drivers said: "We believe Uber owes the same responsibilities towards its drivers as any other company does to its workers. Uber drivers should not be denied the right to minimum wage and paid leave.

"They should be protected from detrimental treatment if they raise serious concerns about unlawful activity. They should be able to work without fear of discrimination.

"Uber exerts significant amounts of control over its drivers in order to provide a particular offering to the public, which it sees as differentiating itself from other taxi services. If it wishes to operate in this way, and to reap the substantial benefits, then it must acknowledge its responsibilities towards those drivers as workers," he added.

An Uber spokesman said: "The main reason thousands of professional drivers choose to partner with Uber is so they can become their own boss, pick their own hours and work completely flexibly.

"In fact many partner-drivers have left other lines of work and chosen to partner with Uber for this very reason.

"Two thirds of new partner-drivers joining the Uber platform have been referred by another partner because they love the freedom and flexibility the service provides," he added.

However, GMB branch secretary Steve ******** contested this opinion. "Uber has now forced a contract on drivers who are no longer partners but customers and are failing to cap driver intake further eroding the facility to earn a reasonable income," he said.

"Drivers have little interaction with management whose preference is to respond on a message based ticket system.

"This shows disdain for the drivers. GMB hopes more drivers will approach us for this remarkable action."

source: http://www.wsandb.co.uk/wsb/news/243369 ... d-benefits

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:44 pm 
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Every taxi and ph owner should employ all drivers


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:02 pm 
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Nidge2 wrote:
DocG wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34733862



More fool the driver for falling for their drivel. How can a company who are based in America predict a driver is going to earn £15 an hour?/quote]


the UBER staff and offices here could.....

Is "UBER-GREED" and different from "PLATE-BARON" greed or "BASE OWNER-GREED"?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:05 pm 
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To me the difference is .. the passenger pays the driver normally....But with Uber.....Uber they pay the driver..

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:15 pm 
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grandad wrote:
Nidge2 wrote:
DocG wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34733862



More fool the driver for falling for their drivel. How can a company who are based in America predict a driver is going to earn £15 an hour? One job paying you £10 could take you 30 minutes if the traffic is a nightmare.

1 Job at £10 for 30 mins could mean 2 jobs at £10 for the hour so it would be £20 for the hour.


And travelling time to that job and waiting time?


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:03 pm 
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MR T wrote:
To me the difference is .. the passenger pays the driver normally....But with Uber.....Uber they pay the driver..



Indeed they collect the money and pay the driver how is that self employment ? No doubt the government is stopping the IR doing anything about it

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 12:12 pm 
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edders23 wrote:
MR T wrote:
To me the difference is .. the passenger pays the driver normally....But with Uber.....Uber they pay the driver..



Indeed they collect the money and pay the driver how is that self employment ? No doubt the government is stopping the IR doing anything about it

It's not to my way of thinking..

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 12:49 pm 
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If the drivers were allowed to have more than one App and choose on the day which one to work off that would probably be considered self employed

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:32 pm 
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Biggest danger to Uber :wink:

https://www.reddit.com/r/uberdrivers/co ... model_not/

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Again showing the reliance of drivers to Uber, without them they'd be gone, once they have them Uber screw them silly, until it becomes not worth driving for them, Uber's business model is to flood the market, very risky especially if drivers get fed up not earning.

http://www.wired.com/2014/08/the-peril- ... ot-bad-pr/

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:54 pm 
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If the drivers were allowed to have more than one App and choose on the day which one to work off that would probably be considered self employed

Which the are.

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