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Tom Thumb
PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:02 pm 
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Apparently our council are the verge of subcontracting their licensing role (and all their staff) to Capita.

The scheme is part of a plan from 5 councils to outsource such roles IT, HR and legal services.

Anyone got experience of such a scheme?

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heathcote
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Which Council is your licensing authority?
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Sefton.

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Seems to me that as the funds generated from Licensing must be ring-fenced and only used for the Licensing function, to generate a profit for a private company would, de-facto, be illegal.

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Agree with Chris,have discussions taken place with the trade in relation to who is going to do the licensing parts,enforcement etc.
Believe according to legislation only Council Officers are able to do this.
If no consultation has taken place suggest you furnish a copy of the Regulators Code of Practice in the Councils face.
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Tom Thumb
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heathcote wrote:
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Vale of White Horse/South Oxfordshire.

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Chris the Fish wrote:
Seems to me that as the funds generated from Licensing must be ring-fenced and only used for the Licensing function, to generate a profit for a private company would, de-facto, be illegal.

Wrong...

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Care to share Mr T?

Why is it wrong?

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Chris the Fish wrote:
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Why is it wrong?

You know....and I know you know.. :D

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MR T wrote:
Chris the Fish wrote:
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Why is it wrong?

You know....and I know you know.. :D

Bloody hell, I just got a flashback to 1976 and the Kursaal Flyers!!!

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Tom Thumb wrote:
Apparently our council are the verge of subcontracting their licensing role (and all their staff) to Capita.

The scheme is part of a plan from 5 councils to outsource such roles IT, HR and legal services.

Anyone got experience of such a scheme?

I think this is where many of us will be going.

However has anyone mentioned to Captia that they can't make a profit?

Adur and Worthing share the licensing function with one team, but they are in house.

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Chris the Fish wrote:
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Why is it wrong?


cos he thinks it is

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Tom Thumb
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Sussex wrote:
Tom Thumb wrote:
Apparently our council are the verge of subcontracting their licensing role (and all their staff) to Capita.

The scheme is part of a plan from 5 councils to outsource such roles IT, HR and legal services.

Anyone got experience of such a scheme?

I think this is where many of us will be going.

However has anyone mentioned to Captia that they can't make a profit?

Adur and Worthing share the licensing function with one team, but they are in house.


I am told that in North Tyneside Capita claim to do the licensing 'at cost' as part of a package of services.

The other councils are Havant, Hart and Mendip.

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Sussex wrote:
Tom Thumb wrote:
Apparently our council are the verge of subcontracting their licensing role (and all their staff) to Capita.

The scheme is part of a plan from 5 councils to outsource such roles IT, HR and legal services.

Anyone got experience of such a scheme?

I think this is where many of us will be going.

However has anyone mentioned to Captia that they can't make a profit?

Adur and Worthing share the licensing function with one team, but they are in house.

Oh yes they can


Supplies and services:
Criminal Record Bureau (CRB)
and Disclosure and Barring
Service (DBS) checks and OneStop-Shop
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I thought the DBS was covered by different legislation and is not therefore an actual licensing function similar to medical fees etc. the council pays the DBS their fee plus an admin charge for processing form paid by us. The actual licensing itself should be done at cost assuming anyone could establish just what that cost actually is

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