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 Post subject: Re: E-cigs
PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:02 am 
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Unlike many people I've taken the time to read up on devices and juices, before I buy a device I look at the power and what it takes to charge them.

I've started to make my own ejuice, it's like brewing beer but much simpler

I use 18650 rechargeable batteries for my devices, they're charged on a Xtar VP4 charger which shuts down when they're fully charged.

I don't touch these pen like ecig devices, they were OK when I started my journey in vaping to see if I could take to it.

I now only use high end devices, the last one cost me £79.99, it's made by an English company and has the kite mark and the safety mark.

Is it your intention to eventually stop using the e-cig or are you just using it as a direct replacement for all the fags you used to smoke?
Personally I think that anything that helps people to give up smoking is generally a good thing. However in some cases I think people continue to use the e-cigs long after they have lost the craving for nicotine because they can't get out of the habit of having to do something with their hands, if you know what I mean.

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 Post subject: Re: E-cigs
PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:32 am 
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Cabbies make many choices on what they allow in their cabs, e-cigs should not be any different.

Here's the view of the NHS.

http://www.nhs.uk/smokefree/help-and-ad ... cigarettes

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 Post subject: Re: E-cigs
PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:16 am 
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how funny is how topic lives its own life... main topic was "Councils are about to use the clean air act to ban the use of e-cigs in taxis" and now we know almost everything about e-stinky-cigs, how helpful and healthy they are.. who cares, I don't smoke and don't want any bloody smoker smoking in my car, doesn't matter how healthy e-stinky-cig is for him, same as I don't like night revelers comming with cans of beer "cos I just opened it"... I don't care... drink it outside or leave it outside same smoking as grandad said, they're with me for few mins and there's no need to smoke in the car...



Unlike many people I've taken the time to read up on devices and juices, before I buy a device I look at the power and what it takes to charge them.

I've started to make my own ejuice, it's like brewing beer but much simpler

I use 18650 rechargeable batteries for my devices, they're charged on a Xtar VP4 charger which shuts down when they're fully charged.

I don't touch these pen like ecig devices, they were OK when I started my journey in vaping to see if I could take to it.

I now only use high end devices, the last one cost me £79.99, it's made by an English company and has the kite mark and the safety mark.



Why do you call that gunge you inhale "juice" is it freshly squeezed from tropical fruit?

You guys are like that bloke on holiday in Egypt. Your in denial.

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 Post subject: Re: E-cigs
PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 12:40 pm 
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Nidge2 wrote:
o-marek wrote:
how funny is how topic lives its own life... main topic was "Councils are about to use the clean air act to ban the use of e-cigs in taxis" and now we know almost everything about e-stinky-cigs, how helpful and healthy they are.. who cares, I don't smoke and don't want any bloody smoker smoking in my car, doesn't matter how healthy e-stinky-cig is for him, same as I don't like night revelers comming with cans of beer "cos I just opened it"... I don't care... drink it outside or leave it outside same smoking as grandad said, they're with me for few mins and there's no need to smoke in the car...



Unlike many people I've taken the time to read up on devices and juices, before I buy a device I look at the power and what it takes to charge them.

I've started to make my own ejuice, it's like brewing beer but much simpler

I use 18650 rechargeable batteries for my devices, they're charged on a Xtar VP4 charger which shuts down when they're fully charged.

I don't touch these pen like ecig devices, they were OK when I started my journey in vaping to see if I could take to it.

I now only use high end devices, the last one cost me £79.99, it's made by an English company and has the kite mark and the safety mark.


Kite Mark and Safety Mark..Don't you get those with all mind enhancing drugs, "Kite Mark" is how High you might get and "Safety Mark" is where you aim for when you come back down.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 1:40 pm 
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I think a lot of smokers have to get their head around the spiel that the Tobacco companies and the Government churn out!

My own genuine thoughts are this; Most people, as already indicated by another poster "what do I do with my hands" do not have an addiction, but they do have a habit.

The Gov and Tab companies put it about that you/whoever have a nicotine addiction/craving, primarily because you are contributory towards profit for the Tobacco company, and tax for the gov finances. The bottom line being is that they do not really want you to give up!

Okay having said that - If a guy/woman who smoked 40 a day for 30/40 years can get up one day, and stop smoking immediately, as has happened on numerous occasions, then it tells me that it is not a drug/nicotine addiction issue. My point being is that if it were an addiction as in say a drug....then you cannot just come off of it without a serious reaction, and yet people have come off of it, and have never looked back.

My next point is this; People also need to take on board that (stating the obvious) we all need to sleep! If you/whoever had a drug/nicotine problem then your body would be waking you up at all times of the night/day for you to have your fix! My guess is that most go to bed and only light up at the very earliest.....when they get up at natural o'clock. Ask yourselves this - if I have an addiction.....then why am I not getting up several times a night to feed it?

I genuinely believe that most people i.e 97/98% have no more than a habit, unfortunately many believe the lies put out that they have a nicotine problem.....just not true imo.

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 Post subject: Re: E-cigs
PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:53 pm 
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grandad wrote:
Nidge2 wrote:


Unlike many people I've taken the time to read up on devices and juices, before I buy a device I look at the power and what it takes to charge them.

I've started to make my own ejuice, it's like brewing beer but much simpler

I use 18650 rechargeable batteries for my devices, they're charged on a Xtar VP4 charger which shuts down when they're fully charged.

I don't touch these pen like ecig devices, they were OK when I started my journey in vaping to see if I could take to it.

I now only use high end devices, the last one cost me £79.99, it's made by an English company and has the kite mark and the safety mark.

Is it your intention to eventually stop using the e-cig or are you just using it as a direct replacement for all the fags you used to smoke?
Personally I think that anything that helps people to give up smoking is generally a good thing. However in some cases I think people continue to use the e-cigs long after they have lost the craving for nicotine because they can't get out of the habit of having to do something with their hands, if you know what I mean.


By Christmas I want to be off the Ecigs, coming off the ciggies is like coming off beer and the dreaded drugs, as you well know you've got to step it down over a period of time for example, I started on 36mg Nicotine 4 years ago, I'm now on 3mg nicotine, by August I want to be coming off the 3mg and heading for zero nicotine. By Christmas I should be good to give them up all together.

I agree with what you say about people continuing to use them, it's meant to get you off the Nicotine not make you more dependent on it but that's their choice. Some people like the throat hit which ciggies gave you, me I like the relaxing side of it like sitting down having a coffee and a good old smoke. Ask people who smoke what they like best with a ciggie, a cup of coffee or a cup of tea will be their reply.

If it helps people kick the habit where they're throwing thousands of chemicals from one ciggie into their body then its a good thing IMO.


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 Post subject: Re: E-cigs
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Nidge2 wrote:
o-marek wrote:
how funny is how topic lives its own life... main topic was "Councils are about to use the clean air act to ban the use of e-cigs in taxis" and now we know almost everything about e-stinky-cigs, how helpful and healthy they are.. who cares, I don't smoke and don't want any bloody smoker smoking in my car, doesn't matter how healthy e-stinky-cig is for him, same as I don't like night revelers comming with cans of beer "cos I just opened it"... I don't care... drink it outside or leave it outside same smoking as grandad said, they're with me for few mins and there's no need to smoke in the car...



Unlike many people I've taken the time to read up on devices and juices, before I buy a device I look at the power and what it takes to charge them.

I've started to make my own ejuice, it's like brewing beer but much simpler

I use 18650 rechargeable batteries for my devices, they're charged on a Xtar VP4 charger which shuts down when they're fully charged.

I don't touch these pen like ecig devices, they were OK when I started my journey in vaping to see if I could take to it.

I now only use high end devices, the last one cost me £79.99, it's made by an English company and has the kite mark and the safety mark.



Why do you call that gunge you inhale "juice" is it freshly squeezed from tropical fruit?

You guys are like that bloke on holiday in Egypt. Your in denial.



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:56 pm 
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Nidge2 wrote:
o-marek wrote:
how funny is how topic lives its own life... main topic was "Councils are about to use the clean air act to ban the use of e-cigs in taxis" and now we know almost everything about e-stinky-cigs, how helpful and healthy they are.. who cares, I don't smoke and don't want any bloody smoker smoking in my car, doesn't matter how healthy e-stinky-cig is for him, same as I don't like night revelers comming with cans of beer "cos I just opened it"... I don't care... drink it outside or leave it outside same smoking as grandad said, they're with me for few mins and there's no need to smoke in the car...



Unlike many people I've taken the time to read up on devices and juices, before I buy a device I look at the power and what it takes to charge them.

I've started to make my own ejuice, it's like brewing beer but much simpler

I use 18650 rechargeable batteries for my devices, they're charged on a Xtar VP4 charger which shuts down when they're fully charged.

I don't touch these pen like ecig devices, they were OK when I started my journey in vaping to see if I could take to it.

I now only use high end devices, the last one cost me £79.99, it's made by an English company and has the kite mark and the safety mark.


Kite Mark and Safety Mark..Don't you get those with all mind enhancing drugs, "Kite Mark" is how High you might get and "Safety Mark" is where you aim for when you come back down.


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 Post subject: Re: E-cigs
PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:58 pm 
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Cabby John 1 wrote:
I think a lot of smokers have to get their head around the spiel that the Tobacco companies and the Government churn out!

My own genuine thoughts are this; Most people, as already indicated by another poster "what do I do with my hands" do not have an addiction, but they do have a habit.

The Gov and Tab companies put it about that you/whoever have a nicotine addiction/craving, primarily because you are contributory towards profit for the Tobacco company, and tax for the gov finances. The bottom line being is that they do not really want you to give up!

Okay having said that - If a guy/woman who smoked 40 a day for 30/40 years can get up one day, and stop smoking immediately, as has happened on numerous occasions, then it tells me that it is not a drug/nicotine addiction issue. My point being is that if it were an addiction as in say a drug....then you cannot just come off of it without a serious reaction, and yet people have come off of it, and have never looked back.

My next point is this; People also need to take on board that (stating the obvious) we all need to sleep! If you/whoever had a drug/nicotine problem then your body would be waking you up at all times o'f the night/day for you to have your fix! My guess is that most go to bed and only light up at the very earliest.....when they get up at natural o'clock. Ask yourselves this - if I have an addiction.....then why am I not getting up several times a night to feed it?

I genuinely believe that most people i.e 97/98% have no more than a habit, unfortunately many believe the lies put out that they have a nicotine problem.....just not true imo.


Yeah, right. " I smoked eighty fags a day for forty years, and didn't find them at all addictive"

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jimbo wrote:
Cabby John 1 wrote:
I think a lot of smokers have to get their head around the spiel that the Tobacco companies and the Government churn out!

My own genuine thoughts are this; Most people, as already indicated by another poster "what do I do with my hands" do not have an addiction, but they do have a habit.

The Gov and Tab companies put it about that you/whoever have a nicotine addiction/craving, primarily because you are contributory towards profit for the Tobacco company, and tax for the gov finances. The bottom line being is that they do not really want you to give up!

Okay having said that - If a guy/woman who smoked 40 a day for 30/40 years can get up one day, and stop smoking immediately, as has happened on numerous occasions, then it tells me that it is not a drug/nicotine addiction issue. My point being is that if it were an addiction as in say a drug....then you cannot just come off of it without a serious reaction, and yet people have come off of it, and have never looked back.

My next point is this; People also need to take on board that (stating the obvious) we all need to sleep! If you/whoever had a drug/nicotine problem then your body would be waking you up at all times o'f the night/day for you to have your fix! My guess is that most go to bed and only light up at the very earliest.....when they get up at natural o'clock. Ask yourselves this - if I have an addiction.....then why am I not getting up several times a night to feed it?

I genuinely believe that most people i.e 97/98% have no more than a habit, unfortunately many believe the lies put out that they have a nicotine problem.....just not true imo.


Yeah, right. " I smoked eighty fags a day for forty years, and didn't find them at all addictive"


That's the spirit..........just a very long HABIT :D

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The government are getting squeaky bottoms hence all the bad news, the duty on a pack of ciggies is £3.52, if there's 2milion people given up smoking and taken to vaping and they were buying 20 a day times by 7 the Government are losing a shed load of money a year plus the governments shares in the tobacco and pharma companies would be taking a hit.


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So what your also sayin Nidge is all those government/councillors pensions that are linked to the big tobacco companies are about to go up in smoke :shock:

Never thought about that :oops:

Feck em :mrgreen:

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So what your also sayin Nidge is all those government/councillors pensions that are linked to the big tobacco companies are about to go up in smoke :shock:

Never thought about that :oops:

Feck em :mrgreen:



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:25 pm 
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Here is another study that's worth a read, more evidence that backs allowing and encouraging the use of e-cigs over real cigarettes.

http://www.ncsct.co.uk/usr/pub/e-cigarette_briefing.pdf

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Yeah, right. " I smoked eighty fags a day for forty years, and didn't find them at all addictive"


A true hobbyist, the kind of man that does not even let the fear of death get between him and his hobby, a man who could have easily and conveniently blamed his hobby like all others on addiction....but no, he lives and wheezes purely in pursuit of his hobby.

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