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EU - Remain or Leave?
Remain in the EU 28%  28%  [ 12 ]
Leave the EU 72%  72%  [ 31 ]
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:11 am 
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Manufacturing jobs lost,it is only a Tory government ever to jump into bed with a communist regime(China)which allows its new bed mate to swamp Britain with cheap steel,MOD allowing foreign steel to be used to build ships,thousands of jobs being removed from central government and Councils alike,watch business questions in Parliament for your answers.
The referendum on Europe is being used as a smoke screen to try and hide what is going on and Cameron is not kidding anyone when he takes his jacket off to make a speech,he does not know the meaning of hard work.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:36 am 
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The recession is getting deeper due to Tory policies and the job losses in every section proves it.

The office for National Statistics have a different view.
http://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabo ... bruary2016


And you believe the Governments lies? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:15 am 
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It is not just interference from the unelected members of the Council of Europe but the idea of G20 finance ministers putting their 2 penneth in that has to be stopped,they all look after their paymasters (big business)and the common man is just an after thought who they stitch up at all times.It is always first and foremost a self interest protection organisation for the rich.

And what's wrong with that ??



they've all been listening to trotsky :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:37 pm 
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Free speech is a thing of the past in Tory Britain,Cameron and his cronies now want to vet world leaders speeches to ensure they do not have any content within them that may undermine his attempt to secure a victory in the referendum also they must not give support of any kind to the leave campaign.

It can only come from a government who are running scared and lack confidence in themselves who would have the nerve to muzzle other world leaders.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:39 pm 
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heathcote wrote:
Free speech is a thing of the past in Tory Britain,Cameron and his cronies now want to vet world leaders speeches to ensure they do not have any content within them that may undermine his attempt to secure a victory in the referendum also they must not give support of any kind to the leave campaign.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 7:47 am 
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heathcote wrote:
Free speech is a thing of the past in Tory Britain,Cameron and his cronies now want to vet world leaders speeches to ensure they do not have any content within them that may undermine his attempt to secure a victory in the referendum also they must not give support of any kind to the leave campaign.

It can only come from a government who are running scared and lack confidence in themselves who would have the nerve to muzzle other world leaders.



You should write a novel "crackpot conspiracy theory" would be a good title

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:13 pm 
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Todays pile of poo



If we leave, Europe might put up trade barriers


OK, so they wont wanna sell here?

BMW
Audi
Peugeot
Citroen
Fiat
VW
Seat
Skoda
Lancia
Ferrari
Lamborghini
Maserati
Mercedes
Porsche
Alfa-Romeo
Bugatti

Ok, maybe Honda, Nissan and Toyota UK-built LHD cars might get hit but overall I think Europe needs our markets

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:14 pm 
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Nidge2 wrote:
grandad wrote:
heathcote wrote:

The recession is getting deeper due to Tory policies and the job losses in every section proves it.

The office for National Statistics have a different view.
http://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabo ... bruary2016


And you believe the Governments lies? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


certainly dont believe Labours version

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:01 pm 
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I have yet to here any vision from any of the leave groups.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:37 pm 
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grandad wrote:
I have yet to here any vision from any of the leave groups.


me neither :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:46 pm 
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I've alway's been about one Union or the other, as a Scot I'm part of two unions :shock: If it's a stay in the eu then I'll again campaign for Scottish independence :shock: Smaller states seem to get a better deal being a part of the eu, bigger states are getting screwed on all counts, if it's a vote to stay in then as far as I'm concerned the British Union is/should be finished, we all don't need to be part of two unions when one is more than enough, Scotland has plenty resources that others member states don't have, I say we'd have a better standing in the eu as Scotland than we do being a part of Westminster also, having two of something when you only need one isn't cost effective, there is no best of both worlds being a part of two unions.

If it's a vote to leave then I'll settle for that, get rid of a union that was supposed to be about economics but has massively become more political, as a republican Scot I'd vote to leave both unions but I'm just one vote, I'd settle for the Norwegian deal as I would have if Scotland had voted yes.

I'll be voting to leave the eu, if it happens then the next vote should be about Britain becoming a republic, hopefully a republican political party will evolve and then maybe Britain could become great again but not as in the old empire sense, hopefully as a world leader as a true democracy where we simply focus on the priorities, once they are taken care of I wouldn't care about our politicians playing Billy big baws on the world stage.

So it's a vote out for me, which by default would trigger another Scottish referendum, looks like a win win for me :D :D :D

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:48 pm 
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Private Reggie wrote:

So it's a vote out for me, which by default would trigger another Scottish referendum, looks like a win win for me :D :D :D


so you vote means nothing really its not a belief it part of a wider game.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:55 pm 
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captain cab wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:

So it's a vote out for me, which by default would trigger another Scottish referendum, looks like a win win for me :D :D :D


so you vote means nothing really its not a belief it part of a wider game.

Yes it could become that :D If the polls show a close call amongst the English vote then the Scottish vote could become relevant, 1.6million scots voted yes, if they where to vote to leave :shock: It would be an interesting scenario :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:06 am 
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Private Reggie wrote:
Yes it could become that :D If the polls show a close call amongst the English vote then the Scottish vote could become relevant, 1.6million scots voted yes, if they where to vote to leave :shock: It would be an interesting scenario :wink:


I want to stay

But if the majority of Scots want to leave, like polls suggest they do, then so be it.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 2:59 am 
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I was thinking about all of this BS that we hear about the EU being great for trade for the UK - and thought how can this be true. The High streets up and down the country are not exactly buzzing, the quality of jobs i.e low pay/zero hour contracts etc do not fit the image of a country doing well, and it would seem that every EU country is up over its neck in some serious debt. So I thought - check it out>>>>>>>>>>>

It would appear that since we joined the EU back in 1973, that we have had (MORE) and (LONGER) recessions than we ever did before joining! The question that I would ask is this; If trade is that good and beneficial to us......how come we are now getting the aforementioned recessions more and more..................and now we cannot even climb out of them.

Oh and before anyone asks for proof.....do your own checking because it is out there.

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