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EU - Remain or Leave?
Remain in the EU 28%  28%  [ 12 ]
Leave the EU 72%  72%  [ 31 ]
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 8:19 pm 
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Re border control.

That is the irresponsible dare I say unlawful behaviour that we will get from the threat/fear brigade. Any Prime Minister who goes along with that is not fit for purpose, as they are duty bound to defend the borders and inhabitants who they are responsible to. It is a no brainer - it will not be allowed to happen.

You can guarantee that it wont happen? How will it be stopped? Your out buddies haven't answered this question yet so how can you be certain?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 8:34 pm 
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cabby john wrote:

Re border control.

That is the irresponsible dare I say unlawful behaviour that we will get from the threat/fear brigade. Any Prime Minister who goes along with that is not fit for purpose, as they are duty bound to defend the borders and inhabitants who they are responsible to. It is a no brainer - it will not be allowed to happen.

You can guarantee that it wont happen? How will it be stopped? Your out buddies haven't answered this question yet so how can you be certain?


I think the clue is in the "unlawful behaviour" comment! Do you honestly believe that the French would allow a free for all that would almost certainly result in many hundreds of deaths, they would almost certainly have a duty of care as to how they handle the situation. Also Cameron would be summoned to stop it.......a bit of sabre rattling I am afraid.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 8:34 pm 
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Taking full control of our financial affairs and regulations that govern our finances is one big reason why we should vote to leave http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cass ... us-edition

Another is accountability, on our own we could vote and ensure who represents us is fully accountable, this can be done without current sitting MPs hiding behind eu regulation.

Another reason to leave is your very own morals and values, are we really a nation of all right jacks? Leaving the eu would free this little island to focus on the priorities of its people, again this could be achieved without interference from stupid trade deals (ttip) that threaten the likes of our NHS, The Tories are even considering selling our roads, freeing up huge resources so they can play Billy big baws on the world stage and lump their dosh in shares to the extreme capitalism that is soon to become extremely detrimental to local economies.

Britain should become a country with full economic freedom, worldwide countries with economic freedom are the countries that are doing best, 7 of the top 10 are countries like New Zealand, Singapore etc.

The eu has gone mad and expanded beyond its means, we have a chance to pull away, be absolute madness not to get out before it explodes (spain&italy).

There will be short term pain but I believe the long term gain will be huge as far as a feeling again of having full control of everything, all this crap about borders and economic doom and gloom is simply scaremongering, Britain imports much more eu products than Europe import British products, Europe needs us more, they need especially our waters to fish, within those waters is europes largest oil fields, then their is the value of our whisky, the eu needs our willingness to travel, Spain, Italy, Greece, Portugal and Turkey would be fecked if we stopped travelling there because the eu wouldn't play ball with a country that pulled out of its to far gone sinking ship.

It's a big fat gypsy get out now from me :D

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 4:04 am 
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we shall not flag or fail.

We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France,
we shall fight on the seas and oceans,
we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be,
we shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,
we shall fight in the hills;
we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God’s good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old.”

The other one is attributed to saying - I do not think that I can stop them.....Your choice!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 10:36 am 
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what would Winnie say if he could see Germany ruling the UK via the EU back door?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 10:56 am 
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Look's like we will be fighting them on the beaches soon............

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 9:50 pm 
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Face it

We stand as much chance in the EU as we do in Eurovision

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 12:20 am 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
Face it

We stand as much chance in the EU as we do in Eurovision



Nul points

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:51 am 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
Face it

We stand as much chance in the EU as we do in Eurovision

If it were a condition of leaving the EU that we could no longer take part in Eurovision, that just might sway my vote . :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 4:16 pm 
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Taking full control of our financial affairs and regulations that govern our finances is one big reason why we should vote to leave http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cass ... us-edition

Another is accountability, on our own we could vote and ensure who represents us is fully accountable, this can be done without current sitting MPs hiding behind eu regulation.

Another reason to leave is your very own morals and values, are we really a nation of all right jacks? Leaving the eu would free this little island to focus on the priorities of its people, again this could be achieved without interference from stupid trade deals (ttip) that threaten the likes of our NHS, The Tories are even considering selling our roads, freeing up huge resources so they can play Billy big baws on the world stage and lump their dosh in shares to the extreme capitalism that is soon to become extremely detrimental to local economies.

Britain should become a country with full economic freedom, worldwide countries with economic freedom are the countries that are doing best, 7 of the top 10 are countries like New Zealand, Singapore etc.

The eu has gone mad and expanded beyond its means, we have a chance to pull away, be absolute madness not to get out before it explodes (spain&italy).

There will be short term pain but I believe the long term gain will be huge as far as a feeling again of having full control of everything, all this crap about borders and economic doom and gloom is simply scaremongering, Britain imports much more eu products than Europe import British products, Europe needs us more, they need especially our waters to fish, within those waters is europes largest oil fields, then their is the value of our whisky, the eu needs our willingness to travel, Spain, Italy, Greece, Portugal and Turkey would be fecked if we stopped travelling there because the eu wouldn't play ball with a country that pulled out of its to far gone sinking ship.

It's a big fat gypsy get out now from me :D



Sturgeon wants to remain in the EU, looks like you'll be getting all the refugees.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:30 pm 
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Nidge2 wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
Taking full control of our financial affairs and regulations that govern our finances is one big reason why we should vote to leave http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cass ... us-edition

Another is accountability, on our own we could vote and ensure who represents us is fully accountable, this can be done without current sitting MPs hiding behind eu regulation.

Another reason to leave is your very own morals and values, are we really a nation of all right jacks? Leaving the eu would free this little island to focus on the priorities of its people, again this could be achieved without interference from stupid trade deals (ttip) that threaten the likes of our NHS, The Tories are even considering selling our roads, freeing up huge resources so they can play Billy big baws on the world stage and lump their dosh in shares to the extreme capitalism that is soon to become extremely detrimental to local economies.

Britain should become a country with full economic freedom, worldwide countries with economic freedom are the countries that are doing best, 7 of the top 10 are countries like New Zealand, Singapore etc.

The eu has gone mad and expanded beyond its means, we have a chance to pull away, be absolute madness not to get out before it explodes (spain&italy).

There will be short term pain but I believe the long term gain will be huge as far as a feeling again of having full control of everything, all this crap about borders and economic doom and gloom is simply scaremongering, Britain imports much more eu products than Europe import British products, Europe needs us more, they need especially our waters to fish, within those waters is europes largest oil fields, then their is the value of our whisky, the eu needs our willingness to travel, Spain, Italy, Greece, Portugal and Turkey would be fecked if we stopped travelling there because the eu wouldn't play ball with a country that pulled out of its to far gone sinking ship.

It's a big fat gypsy get out now from me :D



Sturgeon wants to remain in the EU, looks like you'll be getting all the refugees.


Too cold :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 7:01 am 
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Private Reggie wrote:

Too cold :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


They'll have plenty of blankets. :shock: :shock: :shock:


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 7:48 am 
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Private Reggie wrote:
Nidge2 wrote:


Sturgeon wants to remain in the EU, looks like you'll be getting all the refugees.


Too cold :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

To cold!!! They are queuing up to get into Norway.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 8:44 am 
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grandad wrote:
cabby john wrote:

Re border control.

That is the irresponsible dare I say unlawful behaviour that we will get from the threat/fear brigade. Any Prime Minister who goes along with that is not fit for purpose, as they are duty bound to defend the borders and inhabitants who they are responsible to. It is a no brainer - it will not be allowed to happen.

You can guarantee that it wont happen? How will it be stopped? Your out buddies haven't answered this question yet so how can you be certain?


Until we are out we can never know just how best to control our borders sucessfully...but the real point is that at present migration to the UK is completely out of control and once we know our working parameters after brexit then we will be able to start putting in new laws democratically to protect our shores.

This goes for the other things they say we cant answer in detail until the full question arises...but one things for sure it can't be any feckin worse than the mess the EU is getting us into,,,we can still use their good ideas but at least have the chance to dump their daft ones...only we can can control our borders..not some bloody sprout in brussels.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 9:49 am 
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bloodnock wrote:

Until we are out we can never know just how best to control our borders sucessfully.

I take it that this is just your view. Because if that is the official view of any of the out groups then they are fecked. You can't expect people to vote for something that hasn't even been looked into.

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