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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:51 pm 
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Asad Shah: Uber minicab seized by police investigating murder of Glasgow shopkeeper

An Uber minicab has been seized by police investigating the murder of Glasgow shopkeeper Asad Shah - who was stabbed to death after wishing friends and customers a "very happy Easter".

The grey Volkswagan Passat mini-cab with Uber branding in the windscreen was parked opposite "man of peace" Mr Shah's shop in Glasgow, where he was killed just four hours after posting his Easter message to "my beloved Christian nation".

The vehicle - a private hire cab registered with the city council in Bradford, 200 miles from Glasgow - was within the police cordon set up at the crime scene and was removed by police forensic officers wearing white protective suits.

The forensic officers slowly drove a recovery truck into the cordon and winched the private hire saloon cab onto the back of it before driving away.

It's believed the vehicle, which is feared to have transported Mr Shah's killer to the scene, is now undergoing forensic testing.

The vehicle seizure happened at 2.30pm on Friday afternoon outside Mr Shah's shop on Minard Road in the Shawlands area of Glasgow but has only just come to light.

News of the seizure comes 24 hours after reports that Mr Shah's killer had travelled to Scotland from Bradford.

An Uber spokesman said yesterday that the car was registered to a private hire cab driver in Bradford who last used the Uber app on Monday March 21.

The spokesman said the car had not been used for any Uber trips in Glasgow and said any driver given a private hire licence by Bradford City Council had to pass enhanced DBS disclosure tests.

Police Scotland yesterday refused to comment on the seizure of the vehicle.

Meanwhile a crowdfunding site set up to raise money for Mr Shah's family has reached £70,000 thanks to donations from across Britain and further afield.

Police said on Friday that Mr Shah's death was being treated as "religiously prejudiced".

source: http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/1438 ... hopkeeper/

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News of the seizure comes 24 hours after reports that Mr Shah's killer had travelled to Scotland from Bradford.

An Uber spokesman said yesterday that the car was registered to a private hire cab driver in Bradford who last used the Uber app on Monday March 21.

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It's a shame when people of peace...live in terror....he seemed a nice man....

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It's a shame when people of peace...live in terror....he seemed a nice man....


He sounded like he was one of the good ones. The people from that area liked him.


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£85,000 is raised to help family of murdered Glasgow shopkeeper Asad Shah



MORE than £85,000 has been raised for the family of murdered Glasgow shopkeeper Asad Shah.

The 40-year-old man was seemingly killed in a sectarian attack last week just hours after wishing friends “a happy Easter” on Facebook.

A 32-year-old man has been arrested and will appear in court today. Police said the crime was “religiously prejudiced” and that Shah's attacker is Muslim.

Yesterday, police recovered an Uber taxi registered to a private hire firm in Bradford.

A spokesperson for the taxi company said the car was last used with the Uber app on March 21 and that it had not been used for any trips to Glasgow. They also said any driver given a private hire licence by Bradford City Council had to pass enhanced criminal records checks by the Disclosure and Barring Service.

Senior police officers have also sent a letter of reassurance to local communities worried that this could be the start of a vicious sectarian war. The man arrested was Sunni, while Shah was Ahmadi, a movement of Islam regarded as heretical by many orthodox Muslims.

The letter from Police Scotland assistant chief constable Ruaraidh Nicolson and Commander Mak Chishty, the National Police Chiefs’ Council lead for race, religion and belief, read: “We express our sincere condolences to his family. Our thoughts and prayers are with them at this difficult time.

“We would like to reassure you that we will be working closely with all communities and any sectarian conflict, hatred or extremism will be dealt with swiftly and strongly.

“We are proud of our community cohesion. We will ensure they remain safe and are always protected. If you have any concerns, please feel able to contact your local policing teams. Additional patrols and police visibility have been arranged to help reassure you at this difficult time.”

Shah’s family had said they were in fear for their lives because of their beliefs.

Unlike orthodox Muslims, Ahmadi do not believe Mohammed was the final prophet. Instead they believe their founder Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, born in 1835, was the promised Messiah though they also revere Mohammed as their primary prophet.

In Pakistan, the Ahmadis were officially declared as non-Muslims in 1974. Other laws forbid the movement calling their places of worship mosques.

Hours before he died Shah posted a video on his Facebook saying: “Good Friday and a very Happy Easter, especially to my beloved Christian nation.”

And he added: “Let’s follow the real footstep of beloved holy Jesus Christ and get the real success in both worlds.”

Outraged at his killing, around 400 people took to the streets for a vigil in Glasgow’s south side on Friday.

In just three days, the ‘Support for Mr Shah’, crowdfunder has attracted donations from more than 4,000 people, most from Glasgow, but others globally. Last night the fund stood at almost £84,000 Many left supportive and sympathetic messages.

Kirk Young wrote: “Still trying to analyse why I should still be crying and grieving for someone that I only met for some 30 secs to a minute every few months.”

On her donation Linda Carlisle, wrote: “I live across the road from Mr Shah’s shop and was very saddened to learn of the brutal attack on such a humble, kind, peaceful and loving man.”

source: http://www.thenational.scot/news/85000- ... shah.15638

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The questions nobody wants to ask about Asad Shah’s murder

On Easter Saturday a Muslim shopkeeper in Glasgow was brutally murdered. Forty-year-old Asad Shah was repeatedly stabbed in the head with a kitchen knife and then allegedly stamped upon. Most of the UK press began by going big on this story and referring to it as an act of ‘religious hatred’, comfortably leaving readers with the distinct feeling that – post-Brussels – the Muslim shopkeeper must have been killed by an ‘Islamophobe’. Had that been the case, by now the press would be crawling over every view the killer had ever held and every Facebook connection he had ever made. They would be asking why he had done it and investigating every one of his associates.

But it soon emerged that although the Asad Shah murder was being treated by police as ‘religiously motivated’ the suspected killer was in fact another Muslim who struck just hours after Mr Shah had posted a message on Facebook wishing a very happy Easter to his ‘beloved Christian nation’ and suggesting people follow in ‘The Real Footstep of Beloved Holy Jesus Christ’. The murdered man’s family have now been advised by police to watch what they say and to disguise where they are in Britain because it is believed that they too could now be targeted.

Mr Shah was an Ahmadiyya (Ahmadi), a member of – against some stiff competition – one of the most persecuted sects within Islam. Persecution against them in Pakistan and elsewhere around the Islamic world is rife. Yet despite that (or perhaps for that very reason) they are probably the most peaceable and indeed admirable sect within Islam. Among other things, Ahmadiyya Muslims formally reject the concept of Jihad that other schools cling to. In Britain whenever there is a vaguely positive news story about Islam it almost invariably involves Ahmadi Muslims. Remember the bus adverts a few years back saying that Islam had ‘love for all, hatred for none’. That was paid for by Ahmadiyya Muslims. Remember the stories of a Muslim group not burning poppies but actually selling them for the Royal British Legion? Ahmadiyyas again.

As I said, if the killer of Mr Shah had been a non-Muslim things would have worked out differently. But since he was a Muslim the story has now effectively gone dead. The media aren’t that interested in follow-up and the politicians seem unbothered about following the hate-trail. Like all other stories in this area, they don’t know what questions to ask and they don’t want to ask them anyway. It’s a familiar pattern. Last Friday it turned out that the Imam of the Grand Central Mosque in Glasgow (Scotland’s biggest mosque) had been caught posting messages on the net praising the Muslim extremist who murdered Pakistani governor Salman Taseer for opposing blasphemy laws. This is the mosque that First Minister Nicola Sturgeon went straight to after the Paris terror attacks in November. Did she ask whether the Imam was an Islamist? Perhaps she didn’t know how to ask. Like most people in our public life she is too willingly ignorant to ask such questions and wouldn’t like the answers anyway.

It is the same after the death of Mr Shah. Ms Sturgeon went straight to a vigil in his memory. But neither she nor any other politician so far as I am aware has bothered wondering why Ahmadiyya Muslims like Mr Shah might be targeted. Of course in the days ahead we may hear the usual blandishments, but no blame will be apportioned. So for instance nobody will ask which Muslim leaders in the UK stoke hatred of Ahmadiyya Muslims. Either because they do not know, or because they do not care, nobody will ask Sadiq Khan about the killing of Mr Shah on Saturday. If they did then Sadiq Khan would doubtless express horror for the killing and then talk (as he always does) of the need to ‘root out’ all such hatred. But would anyone press on and ask whether the man most likely to be the next Mayor of London has ever ‘rooted out’ such hatred himself? Will anyone ask Sadiq Khan about the views of the religious leaders at the mosque he himself attends? I doubt it. They would know what to do were Sadiq Khan a follower of almost any other religion, but such is the illiteracy in this country about a religion people really ought to know far more about by now that they will be silent.

As it happens, the Imam of the mosque that Sadiq Khan himself attends in Tooting is one Suliman Gani. This is a man who has in the past openly acknowledged that he uses his position to agitate against Ahmadiyya Muslims. Indeed Sadiq Khan’s Imam has sat on a platform from which calls were made for Muslims to boycott shops owned by Ahmadi Muslims: Muslim shopkeepers, that is, like Mr Shah who was murdered on Saturday.

As I say, nobody will ask about this, because almost nobody knows, or cares to know, or cares to hear the answers. They would care deeply about webs of association if the man arrested for Mr Shah’s murder had been a non-Muslim. But there is little to ask now it seems to be a Muslim. That is how these things work in modern Britain, and that in a nutshell is why things are going to go so very wrong in the near future.

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Interesting article.

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Interesting article.

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Like I mentioned above he seemed a genuine chap, that article is a real eye opener.


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Unfortunately there are thousands of hard line muslims all over the uk who believe that the entire population of Britain should all become fanatical devotees of the koran and don't accept any other interpretation of islam or any other other religion as being genuine

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What a lot of people fail to realize is that islam is at war more with itself, than
with the west, and it is spilling out onto the streets of the UK . It will happen more frequently
as revenge attacks until it is out of control.


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seems to have gone all quiet this story - no details of the person they've arrested or anything, strange.

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The establishment are playing it down , they do not want to highlight that there is a very dangerous
growing sectarian problem in the muslim community .


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Another Dead Blasphemer—in Scotland

The stench of Islamic extremism has become all too common among the religious and community leaders of the U.K.


LONDON — Asad Shah was a much-loved Muslim shopkeeper in Scotland’s second city of Glasgow. Embodying the slogan of his mosque: Love for All and Hatred for None, he would post inclusive social media messages such as “a very Happy Easter, especially to my beloved Christian nation,” and the locals loved him for it.

Yet, on the eve of Good Friday this year, Tanveer Ahmed, a fellow Muslim, appears to have driven 200 miles from Bradford to Glasgow in his licensed Uber car in order to stab Asad 30 times all over his body, stamp on his head and then sit laughing on his chest. Asad, tragically, died from his wounds later that night. With her nation in shock, Scotland’s First Minister Nicola Sturgeon attended a vigil in Asad’s memory, and he was buried just over a week later.

The truth behind why Asad was killed makes for uncomfortable and ugly reading.

Mohammad Faisal, a friend of the Shah family, described the murderer as “bearded,” wearing a long Muslim “religious robe” and addressing Asad in his native language before killing him.

Police have in fact charged the suspect Tanveer Ahmed with “religiously prejudiced” murder. For Asad was an Ahmedi Muslim, a minority sect persecuted as “heretical” by much of Pakistan’s Sunni Muslim majority. With these facts in mind, Asad Shah has probably become Britain’s first spillover case of Pakistan’s ongoing and vicious blasphemy inquisition being waged by that country’s increasingly belligerent mullah mafia.

The Ahmedis emerged in North India under the British Raj in the 1800s, and their founder Mirza Ghulam Ahmed from Qadian claimed to be the embodiment of Jesus the Messiah, returned. Such a claim has certainly caused controversy among the Sunni Muslim majority within the Indian Subcontinent.

Regardless, only the stone-cold and heartless could ignore the campaign of persecution that has been unleashed since upon Ahmadis by my fellow Sunni Muslims, especially those of the Barelwi denomination. Many would expect extremists, such as the Khatme Nubuwwat group that enforces the Finality of the Prophet, to celebrate Asad’s murder online. Beyond that, we would prefer to assume the best in Muslims, and insist that the extremists are but a “tiny minority.” A closer look reveals a dispiriting and disturbing truth.

Just how widespread and institutionalized this persecution is, are questions that few want to ask.

This is because, as the previous case of Salmaan Taseer highlighted, to defend “blasphemers” in Pakistan is likely to get you killed even if you’re the powerful governor of Punjab, Pakistan’s richest province. Taseer’s killer Mumtaz Qadri was recently executed by the Pakistani state, but nevertheless glorified and anointed by the inquisitor mullahs as a “ghazi” (warrior), who died a “shaheed” (a holy martyr), while defending namoos-e-Rasool (the honour of the Prophet).

After Qadri’s execution, the Barelwi Muslim leadership held widespread street protests in Pakistan’s capital Islamabad, demanding that the government accept a list of their demands. These included imposing their version of Sharia as law, to immediately execute all blasphemers including Aasia Bibi (the allegedly “blasphemous” Christian woman Salmaan Taseer died defending), the immediate release of all those convicted for killing to defend the “honor of the Prophet,” for the state to officially declare Mumtaz Qadri a “shaheed” on national media, to expel all members of the Ahmedi community from Pakistan (that’s 2 percent of the population), and to terminate immediately the positions of Ahmedis working in government departments.

Most devout Barelwi Sunni Muslims in the West take their religious instruction directly from Pakistan, and there remains a powerful flow of ideas coming from their leaders in the Punjab.

Nearly a week before Asad’s murder the imam of Scotland’s largest mosque, also in Glasgow, Maulana Habib Ur Rehman used the messaging platform WhatsApp to show his support for the now executed Mumtaz Qadri. In messages seen by the BBC, the Imam said that he was “disturbed” and “upset” at Qadri’s execution. He then added the epithet “rahmatullahi alaih” after mentioning Qadri’s name. This is a religious blessing usually given to devout Muslims and meaning “may God’s mercy be upon him.”

In another message, he says: “I cannot hide my pain today. A true Muslim was punished for doing which [sic] the collective will of the nation failed to carry out.” This, from the most senior imam at Glasgow Central Mosque, a role which involves leading prayers and giving religious guidance to an entire community.

Police are also currently investigating links between Sabir Ali, head of religious events at Glasgow Central Mosque, with Sipah-e-Sahabah, a banned Pakistani terror group from the Deobandi sect that persecutes Shia Muslims, also for alleged “blasphemy.” And yet, just as Scotland’s First Minister Nicola Sturgeon had attended the vigil in memory of Asad Shah, she also chose Glasgow mosque to hold a minute of silence after the recent Brussels attacks.

Few in wider society are prepared to acknowledge just how deep Sunni prejudice against alleged blasphemers can run.

This thirst for an inquisition is not found only among extremist groups, nor limited to these key figures in the U.K.’s largest mosques. It is also present to worrying levels in the wider community.

Recently, Luton on Sunday, a local newspaper, carried a double-spread advertisement celebrating 125 years since the Ahmadiyya movement was founded. That paid advert prompted such a level of complaints from the wider Sunni Muslim community in Luton that it lead to this groveling response by the newspaper:

“Last week the Luton on Sunday carried an advertisement from the Ahmediyyah…We would like to make it clear that we completely disassociate ourselves from the content of the advertisement… On Friday we met with representatives from the Muslim community to discuss the advertisement which we had accepted in good faith but now understand has caused offence to members of the Muslim Community in Luton.”

Included is a quotation from one of the “community leaders” the newspaper met with which thanks them for their sensitivity over a matter relating to the “fundamental beliefs of all Muslims.”

But as with all things, the mosque imams and “community leaders” find succor in the stance taken by those in authority among them. Look no further than the Pakistani High Commission in London to behold the truly institutionalized nature of this “Blasphemy Inquisition.”

Any British dual-national seeking to apply for a passport, or even an identity card, to travel to Pakistan visa-free is asked to partake in the persecution. Upon applying for our papers we are expected to sign a declaration (PDF) attesting— among other religious interferences by the state—that “I consider Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Quadiani to be an imposter nabi (prophet) and also consider his followers whether of the Lahori or Qadiani group to be non-Muslim.” Hundreds of thousands of British-Pakistani Muslims have had little choice but to participate in this ritual that normalizes the Blasphemy Inquisition, in order to gain their identity cards.

If we contextualize Asad Shah’s murder by placing it in this hostile climate, as we must, then we begin to realize the horrifying level of persecution facing those deemed heretical, such as Ahmedis or other “blasphemers.”

Over the years, in survey after survey, British Muslim attitudes have reflected dangerously high levels of support for enforcing “blasphemy” taboos. A 2007 poll found that 36 percent of young British Muslims thought that apostates should be killed. A 2008 YouGov poll found that a third of Muslim students claimed that killing for religion can be justified, while 33 percent expressed a desire to see the return of a worldwide theocratic Caliphate. A ComRes poll commissioned by the BBC in 2015 found that a quarter of British Muslims sympathized with the Charlie Hebdo “blasphemy” attacks.

By any reasonable assessment, something has gone badly wrong in Britain, and a solution must start on the ground, within the communities where the problem has festered for so long. It starts from a recognition that religious extremism has gained significant enough traction for it to pose a danger.

For Asad Shah’s sake, for all those persecuted for their religious choices, or lack of, we must speak up. Just as all of us, black or white, are responsible for challenging racism, and just as all of us, gay or straight, are responsible for challenging homophobia, all of us, Muslim or not, are responsible for challenging this religious extremism. Denial that a generational struggle, no less than the civil struggle to challenge racism, lies ahead of us is no longer a viable option.

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Has uber released a statement saying Tanveer Ahmed wasn't at work at the time yet?

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