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Has uber released a statement saying Tanveer Ahmed wasn't at work at the time yet?

Have you read the original post yet? After all it was you who posted it. :wink:

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Have you read the original post yet? After all it was you who posted it. :wink:


ahh -

The spokesman said the car had not been used for any Uber trips in Glasgow and said any driver given a private hire licence by Bradford City Council had to pass enhanced DBS disclosure tests.


councils fault for allowing a potential murderer to be licensed. =D> =D> =D>

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Have you read the original post yet? After all it was you who posted it. :wink:


ahh -

The spokesman said the car had not been used for any Uber trips in Glasgow and said any driver given a private hire licence by Bradford City Council had to pass enhanced DBS disclosure tests.


councils fault for allowing a potential murderer to be licensed. =D> =D> =D>

It also stated that he last used the app on March 21st.

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Another Dead Blasphemer—in Scotland

The stench of Islamic extremism has become all too common among the religious and community leaders of the U.K.


LONDON — Asad Shah was a much-loved Muslim shopkeeper in Scotland’s second city of Glasgow. Embodying the slogan of his mosque: Love for All and Hatred for None, he would post inclusive social media messages such as “a very Happy Easter, especially to my beloved Christian nation,” and the locals loved him for it.

Yet, on the eve of Good Friday this year, Tanveer Ahmed, a fellow Muslim, appears to have driven 200 miles from Bradford to Glasgow in his licensed Uber car in order to stab Asad 30 times all over his body, stamp on his head and then sit laughing on his chest. Asad, tragically, died from his wounds later that night. With her nation in shock, Scotland’s First Minister Nicola Sturgeon attended a vigil in Asad’s memory, and he was buried just over a week later.

The truth behind why Asad was killed makes for uncomfortable and ugly reading.

Mohammad Faisal, a friend of the Shah family, described the murderer as “bearded,” wearing a long Muslim “religious robe” and addressing Asad in his native language before killing him.

Police have in fact charged the suspect Tanveer Ahmed with “religiously prejudiced” murder. For Asad was an Ahmedi Muslim, a minority sect persecuted as “heretical” by much of Pakistan’s Sunni Muslim majority. With these facts in mind, Asad Shah has probably become Britain’s first spillover case of Pakistan’s ongoing and vicious blasphemy inquisition being waged by that country’s increasingly belligerent mullah mafia.

The Ahmedis emerged in North India under the British Raj in the 1800s, and their founder Mirza Ghulam Ahmed from Qadian claimed to be the embodiment of Jesus the Messiah, returned. Such a claim has certainly caused controversy among the Sunni Muslim majority within the Indian Subcontinent.

Regardless, only the stone-cold and heartless could ignore the campaign of persecution that has been unleashed since upon Ahmadis by my fellow Sunni Muslims, especially those of the Barelwi denomination. Many would expect extremists, such as the Khatme Nubuwwat group that enforces the Finality of the Prophet, to celebrate Asad’s murder online. Beyond that, we would prefer to assume the best in Muslims, and insist that the extremists are but a “tiny minority.” A closer look reveals a dispiriting and disturbing truth.

Just how widespread and institutionalized this persecution is, are questions that few want to ask.

This is because, as the previous case of Salmaan Taseer highlighted, to defend “blasphemers” in Pakistan is likely to get you killed even if you’re the powerful governor of Punjab, Pakistan’s richest province. Taseer’s killer Mumtaz Qadri was recently executed by the Pakistani state, but nevertheless glorified and anointed by the inquisitor mullahs as a “ghazi” (warrior), who died a “shaheed” (a holy martyr), while defending namoos-e-Rasool (the honour of the Prophet).

After Qadri’s execution, the Barelwi Muslim leadership held widespread street protests in Pakistan’s capital Islamabad, demanding that the government accept a list of their demands. These included imposing their version of Sharia as law, to immediately execute all blasphemers including Aasia Bibi (the allegedly “blasphemous” Christian woman Salmaan Taseer died defending), the immediate release of all those convicted for killing to defend the “honor of the Prophet,” for the state to officially declare Mumtaz Qadri a “shaheed” on national media, to expel all members of the Ahmedi community from Pakistan (that’s 2 percent of the population), and to terminate immediately the positions of Ahmedis working in government departments.

Most devout Barelwi Sunni Muslims in the West take their religious instruction directly from Pakistan, and there remains a powerful flow of ideas coming from their leaders in the Punjab.

Nearly a week before Asad’s murder the imam of Scotland’s largest mosque, also in Glasgow, Maulana Habib Ur Rehman used the messaging platform WhatsApp to show his support for the now executed Mumtaz Qadri. In messages seen by the BBC, the Imam said that he was “disturbed” and “upset” at Qadri’s execution. He then added the epithet “rahmatullahi alaih” after mentioning Qadri’s name. This is a religious blessing usually given to devout Muslims and meaning “may God’s mercy be upon him.”

In another message, he says: “I cannot hide my pain today. A true Muslim was punished for doing which [sic] the collective will of the nation failed to carry out.” This, from the most senior imam at Glasgow Central Mosque, a role which involves leading prayers and giving religious guidance to an entire community.

Police are also currently investigating links between Sabir Ali, head of religious events at Glasgow Central Mosque, with Sipah-e-Sahabah, a banned Pakistani terror group from the Deobandi sect that persecutes Shia Muslims, also for alleged “blasphemy.” And yet, just as Scotland’s First Minister Nicola Sturgeon had attended the vigil in memory of Asad Shah, she also chose Glasgow mosque to hold a minute of silence after the recent Brussels attacks.

Few in wider society are prepared to acknowledge just how deep Sunni prejudice against alleged blasphemers can run.

This thirst for an inquisition is not found only among extremist groups, nor limited to these key figures in the U.K.’s largest mosques. It is also present to worrying levels in the wider community.

Recently, Luton on Sunday, a local newspaper, carried a double-spread advertisement celebrating 125 years since the Ahmadiyya movement was founded. That paid advert prompted such a level of complaints from the wider Sunni Muslim community in Luton that it lead to this groveling response by the newspaper:

“Last week the Luton on Sunday carried an advertisement from the Ahmediyyah…We would like to make it clear that we completely disassociate ourselves from the content of the advertisement… On Friday we met with representatives from the Muslim community to discuss the advertisement which we had accepted in good faith but now understand has caused offence to members of the Muslim Community in Luton.”

Included is a quotation from one of the “community leaders” the newspaper met with which thanks them for their sensitivity over a matter relating to the “fundamental beliefs of all Muslims.”

But as with all things, the mosque imams and “community leaders” find succor in the stance taken by those in authority among them. Look no further than the Pakistani High Commission in London to behold the truly institutionalized nature of this “Blasphemy Inquisition.”

Any British dual-national seeking to apply for a passport, or even an identity card, to travel to Pakistan visa-free is asked to partake in the persecution. Upon applying for our papers we are expected to sign a declaration (PDF) attesting— among other religious interferences by the state—that “I consider Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Quadiani to be an imposter nabi (prophet) and also consider his followers whether of the Lahori or Qadiani group to be non-Muslim.” Hundreds of thousands of British-Pakistani Muslims have had little choice but to participate in this ritual that normalizes the Blasphemy Inquisition, in order to gain their identity cards.

If we contextualize Asad Shah’s murder by placing it in this hostile climate, as we must, then we begin to realize the horrifying level of persecution facing those deemed heretical, such as Ahmedis or other “blasphemers.”

Over the years, in survey after survey, British Muslim attitudes have reflected dangerously high levels of support for enforcing “blasphemy” taboos. A 2007 poll found that 36 percent of young British Muslims thought that apostates should be killed. A 2008 YouGov poll found that a third of Muslim students claimed that killing for religion can be justified, while 33 percent expressed a desire to see the return of a worldwide theocratic Caliphate. A ComRes poll commissioned by the BBC in 2015 found that a quarter of British Muslims sympathized with the Charlie Hebdo “blasphemy” attacks.

By any reasonable assessment, something has gone badly wrong in Britain, and a solution must start on the ground, within the communities where the problem has festered for so long. It starts from a recognition that religious extremism has gained significant enough traction for it to pose a danger.

For Asad Shah’s sake, for all those persecuted for their religious choices, or lack of, we must speak up. Just as all of us, black or white, are responsible for challenging racism, and just as all of us, gay or straight, are responsible for challenging homophobia, all of us, Muslim or not, are responsible for challenging this religious extremism. Denial that a generational struggle, no less than the civil struggle to challenge racism, lies ahead of us is no longer a viable option.

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It also stated that he last used the app on March 21st.


That's ok then =D>

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Uber driver admits murdering 'Happy Easter' shopkeeper Asad Shah 'for disrespecting the Prophet Muhammad'


Tanveer Ahmed, 32, issued a statement in which he claimed he had killed Asah Shah because he claimed to be the Prophet

A uber minicab driver has admitted murdering a shopkeeper 'for disrespecting the Prophet Muhammad'.

Tanveer Ahmed, 32, issued a statement today in which he claimed he had killed Asad Shah at his newsagent's in Glasgow because he claimed to be the Prophet.

But Ahmed, of Bradford, West Yorkshire, denied it had anything to do with Christianity or any other religion, the Daily Record reports.

This highly unusual statement was made through his lawyer, John Rafferty, after Ahmed's second appearance at court before sheriff Brian Adair.

Ahmed made no plea during private court appearance, charged with Mr Shah's murder.

He was remanded in custody and is expected to appear at the High Court at a later date.

The statement given is: "My client Mr Tanveer Ahmed has specifically instructed me that today, 6 April 2016, to issue this statement to the press, the statement is in the words of my client.

"This all happened for one reason and no other issues and no other intentions.

"Asad Shah disrespected the messenger of Islam the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.

"Mr Shah claimed to be a Prophet.

"When 1,400 years ago the Prophet of Islam Muhammad peace be upon him has clearly said that 'I am the final messenger of Allah there is no more prophets or messengers from God Allah after me."

"I am leaving you the final Quran," he continued.

"There is no changes.

"It is the final book of Allah and this is the final completion of Islam.

"There is no more changes to it and no one has the right to claim to be a Prophet or to change the Quran or change Islam.

"It is mentioned in the Quran that there is no doubt in this book no one has the right to disrespect the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him and no one has the right to disrespect the Prophet of Islam Muhammad Peace be upon him.

"If I had not done this others would and there would have been more killing and violence in the world.

"I wish to make it clear that the incident was nothing at all to do with Christianity or any other religious beliefs even although I am a follower of the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him I also love and respect Jesus Christ."

Mr Shah, 40, was found with serious injuries outside his shop on the evening of March 24, after being allegedly attacked outside his shop Shah's Newsagents and Convenience Store in Minard Road, Shawlands, Glasgow.

He was rushed to the Queen Elizabeth University Hospital where he was pronounced dead on arrival.

The savage killing happened just four hours he wished a happy Easter to friends and neighbours in “my beloved Christian nation”.

A silent vigil was held outside his shop attended by hundreds of people including First Minister Nicola Sturgeon.

A fundraising page on GoFundMe has raised more than £110, 000 for Mr Shah's family.

source: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ta ... py-7702445

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Another Asian from Yorkshire what is it about that [edited by admin] that breeds these trash ?????????????

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Uber driver drove 200 miles to stab popular Glasgow shopkeeper Asad Shah to death in argument over religion


Even after the knife was wrestled from Tanveer Ahmed's grip he began punching, kicking and stamping on his victim - despite repeated pleas to stop by those around him

Tanveer Ahmed has confessed to the killing of Glasgow shopkeeper Asad Shah

An Uber driver drove 200miles to stab popular Glasgow shopkeeper Asad Shah to death in a heated argument over religion.

Even after the knife was wrestled from his grip he began punching, kicking and stamping on his victim, a court heard - despite repeated pleas to stop by those around him.

And when his vicious, murderous attack was over he calmly walked to a nearby bus shelter and sat "in prayer" waiting for the police to arrive, the court heard.

Uber taxi driver Tanveer Ahmed, 32, admits murdering Mr Shah, a 40-year-old Ahmadi Muslim, who ran a convenience store in the city.

The High Court in Glasgow heard today that Ahmed claimed Mr Shah had "disrespected the prophet of Islam, the messenger of Allah, Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him."

Horrific CCTV footage shown to court today showed Ahmed, from Bradford, arriving at the shop at about 9pm in the evening.

The judge was told Mr Shah's family wanted the video shown - but they were not in court because of fears for their own security and they did not want to see his killer.

The footage shows how shortly after arriving Ahmed swiftly got involved in a fierce row with Mr Shah - who had been serving customers - said to be "intense" and in Urdu.

The court heard that Ahmed - a Muslim - believed Mr Shah claimed to be a prophet.

The killer was said to have attempted and failed to "persuade Mr Shah to his point of view".

Ahmed can then be seen - on CCTV shown to the jury and members of the public sat in the gallery - reaching into his robes, pulling out a knife and moving round the counter to attack Mr Shah.

Mr Shah's colleague Stephen McFadyen rushed from the back of the shop where he had been working and tried to intervene but Mr Shah was repeatedly stabbed in the head and body, with the blows continuing as he fled into the street.

Mr Shah's brother Athar, a personal trainer who had been in the basement, rushed upstairs and dragged his injured brother away before trying to fend off the killer with the only weapon available - an advertising sign in the street outside the shop.

Mr McFadyen meanwhile bravely grabbed the knife from Ahmed and hid it in nearby bushes.

Their pleas for Ahmed to stop were ignored as he continued to punch, kick and stamp Mr Shah "with full force".

Ahmed then walked calmly to a nearby bus shelter where he sat with his head bowed "as if in prayer".

Advocate depute Iain McSporran told the court the pair conversed "intensely" in Urdu.

"His demeanour and gestures are at least consistent with his account that he was attempting to persuade the shopkeeper to his point of view," he said.

"From what we can see of Mr Shah, he is responding but not apparently agreeing with the accused.

"The accused, having apparently not received the response he was looking for, reaches into the robes he is wearing and removes a knife with which he attacks Asad Shah, moving behind the counter to do so.

"Stephen McFadyen, who was working nearby in the shop, approaches and attempts to assist but the incident is fast moving and he is unable to prevent the attack, involving repeated stab wounds aimed at the head and upper body, continuing."

He then moved to when the attack spilled outside.

"Athar Shah makes a valiant but vain attempt to fend off the attacker, wielding an advertising sign as the only available weapon but without effect," Mr McSporran continued.

"Whilst the attack continued, with the accused kneeling on the victim, pinning him to the ground, Stephen McFadyen bravely reached for the knife and grabbed it from the accused, running across the road and placing it in bushes out of harm's way.

"The accused then began punching, kicking and stamping with full force on the prone body of Asad Shah, who was long past being in any position to defend himself.

"Many blows were delivered to his head and face, despite Athar's repeated pleas for him to stop.

"The attack ceased suddenly and the accused walked calmly to a bus shelter nearby where he sat, head bowed as if in prayer."

The chain of events leading up to the killing at Shah’s Newsagents and Convenience Store on Minard Road on March 24 appeared to begin two days before. At that time Ahmed had been staying with a mutual friend of Mr Shah in Glasgow.

He seemed to already have an interest in his victim, asking his host whether he knew "Shah from Glasgow".

It was at that point that Ahmed was shown for the first time Facebook posts made by Mr Shah suggesting that he was a prophet.

The killer returned to Bradford on March 23, leaving his friend with no reason to think that anything would come of the incident.

But the following day he was again driving north and during the journey used his mobile to watch a video of Mr Shah claiming to be a prophet.

The funeral of Mr Shah was held at the The Bait Ur Rahman Mosque in the West End of Glasgow

"Listen to this guy, something needs to be done, it needs nipped in the bud," he said in a phone message at the time.

After the attack a passing GP and nurse stopped to help and Mr Shah was rushed to the Queen Elizabeth University Hospital but pronounced dead on arrival - less than an hour after the killer first entered his shop.

When police found Ahmed in the nearby bus shelter, he said: "I respect what you do and I have nothing against you and so I am not going to hurt you. I have broken the law and appreciate how you are treating me."

In court, prosecutor Iain McSporran highlighted the "brave" and "valiant" efforts of Mr McFadyen and Athar Shah, who suffered a knife wound to the neck as he defended his brother.

He said: "In particular Athar Shah, who witnessed his brother being murdered and who bears a terrible sense of guilt at what he sees, quite wrongly, as his failure to help him, has suffered greatly both mentally and physically."

Ahmed, from Bradford in West Yorkshire, pleaded guilty to murdering the respected businessman, who was described by his family as a "brilliant" man.

At an earlier hearing Ahmed declared that he killed Mr Shah in order to protect the honour of Islam.

He told his lawyer to release the unprecedented statement after appearing in court for the second time in relation to the death of Mr Shah.

In a move that left legal experts baffled, he had his lawyer read out a statement which accused Asad of showing disrespect to his religion .

It said: “Asad Shah disrespected the messenger of Islam the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. Mr Shah claimed to be a Prophet.”

As explained by prosecutors, Ahmadis differ from other Muslims in their belief that the Prophet Muhammad was not the final Prophet.

The majority of Muslims believe this view is inconsistent with Islamic belief and many consider it heretical or blasphemous.

Ahmed said he murdered Mr Shah - who was granted asylum when he moved to Glasgow from Pakistan to escape violence in 1998 - not because he was an Ahmadi Muslim however, but because of specific comments he made on social media.

Evidence gathered showed Mr Shah had posted videos on Facebook and YouTube which could be seen as him claiming that he was a Prophet.

The court heard Ahmed was not motivated by malice towards Ahmadi Muslims as a group, but by his offence at Mr Shah's comments.

The shopkeeper regularly posted messages and video clips online which the Crown said gave "little doubt that he was claiming to be a messenger of God and a prophet".

Hours before the attack, Mr Shah had posted a Facebook message wishing all Christians a "Happy Easter".

Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon attended a vigil for Mr Shah

Mr Shah's family said a person's religion, ethnicity or race never mattered to the shopkeeper, who treated everyone with kindness and respect.

They said: "Our love for all mankind and hope for a better world in which we can all live in peace and harmony, as so emphatically embodied by Asad, will endure and prevail.

"Asad left us a tremendous gift and we must continue to honour that gift by loving and taking care of one another."

The parents of Mr Shah said they moved to Scotland from Pakistan because "we never thought that we could be in danger here".

As Ahmadi Muslims they said they faced religious hatred and discrimination in their homeland and sought refuge in Glasgow.

Many people enjoyed visiting Mr Shah in his store and chatting to him daily

His parents said: "We brought our children to this country to seek refuge from Pakistan in 1991 fleeing persecution, religious hatred, discrimination and a danger to our lives because we were Ahmadis.

"We never thought that we could be in danger here.

"We feel imprisoned by our pain and suffering and we have little hope of ever having a normal life again.

"Most of the family, unable to live with this turmoil, pain and fear, has taken a decision to leave Scotland forever."

Two decades on, they said the faith-motivated stabbing of their son as he served behind the counter of the family store has brought "an immense sense of guilt" and a renewed sense of fear for their safety.

But Ahmed said his actions had nothing to do with Christianity, claiming to "love and respect" Jesus Christ.

Asad was described as a pillar of the community. A silent vigil held outside his shop 24 hours after his death was attended by hundreds of people, including First Minister Nicola Sturgeon.

source: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ub ... es-8368097

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I heard someone on the radio today say this wasn't about religion :lol:

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