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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:06 pm 
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Fans today no longer go to games hoping to buy tickets........??

You can't be serious!!! I must imagine all the touts on Olympic Way on cup final day. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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grandad wrote:
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Fans today no longer go to games hoping to buy tickets........??

You can't be serious!!! I must imagine all the touts on Olympic Way on cup final day. :lol: :lol: :lol:

iT's called Sarcasm....

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Fans today no longer go to games hoping to buy tickets........??



So there's no touts about on cup final day then?


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it's much deeper then money......
It didn't seem that way up until they got the verdict, now it's all about money. I thought there'd be closure but no it's going on and on.


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Nidge2 wrote:
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Fans today no longer go to games hoping to buy tickets........??



So there's no touts about on cup final day then?

iT's called Sarcasm.....You accept it today .....but see it as being wrong 27 years ago...

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i have kept clear of this one to see what develops and will not criticize other posts.

Firstly the FA should never have used a ground without a safety certificate.

Secondly the Police behaviour on the day was scandalously dangerous and their perception of the events unfolding before their eyes astounding calling for police dogs before ambulances reveals their CRIMINAL mentality.

Subsequently to manufacture FALSE EVIDENCE AND TO LIE UNDER OATH was no surprise to many with experience of this outfit.

Where now? clearly many POLICE were involveld in a CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY TO PERVERT THE COURSE OF JUSTICE they must of course feel the full force of the law and no stone must be left unturned until all those guilty are imprisoned.

I firmly believe they were following Magaret Thatchers and the Tory Partys instructions they of course must also be dealt with!

One lesson learnt never take on the SCOUSE a people of many mixed ethnicity's and normally very determined honest and genuine!

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When was it reported broken,do not think that was stated at this inquest.


no idea if it was stated in the inquest, i remember seeing it read out on the news, also on youtube, although, what they did say was that the legit ticket holders were in the ground & were oblivious, the fans without tickets that came in caused the problem , quite a few without tickets apparently, also you must feel for the police mind, probably outnumbered 100/1, we all know the way football fans act , like animals,especially back in the day , so i think it was just panic on the polices behalf, like tt said, "called the dogs before ambulances" , obviously for protection in a very "hostile" situation, my opinion? yes the police handled it poorly ( should have just dispersed the crowd outside) , the flip side is why did the fans , with no reason at all to be there ( they didn't have tickets after all) rush to get in ? if they hadn't bothered going in the first place without a ticket, it would never have happened, if the police hadn't opened the gates it also would never have happened , but! they wouldn't have needed to open the gates if the travelling fans without tickets didn't bother going , why would you bother travelling to a game without a ticket ? ( i know people do , my mate does) cant understand it tbh , so, how are the fans without tickets not to blame? they caused it , anyway , just my 2 penneth :wink:


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MR T wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
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it's much deeper then money......


so the solicitors and barristers are working FOC?



Does yours..I don't think so..


i aint looking for 27 years interest on a lump sum...

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MR T wrote:
Nidge2 wrote:
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Fans today no longer go to games hoping to buy tickets........??



So there's no touts about on cup final day then?

iT's called Sarcasm.....You accept it today .....but see it as being wrong 27 years ago...


There were touts more than 27 years ago. I remember going to Wembley to watch Man United when I was 17 without a ticket. I got one easy enough when I got there.


How much money do they want out of all this, £100K, £200K, £300K each? Who's going to foot the bill. Not the Taxpayers of Merseyside.


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heathcote wrote:
When was it reported broken,do not think that was stated at this inquest.


no idea if it was stated in the inquest, i remember seeing it read out on the news, also on youtube, although, what they did say was that the legit ticket holders were in the ground & were oblivious, the fans without tickets that came in caused the problem , quite a few without tickets apparently, also you must feel for the police mind, probably outnumbered 100/1, we all know the way football fans act , like animals,especially back in the day , so i think it was just panic on the polices behalf, like tt said, "called the dogs before ambulances" , obviously for protection in a very "hostile" situation, my opinion? yes the police handled it poorly ( should have just dispersed the crowd outside) , the flip side is why did the fans , with no reason at all to be there ( they didn't have tickets after all) rush to get in ? if they handt of bothered going in the first place without a ticket, it would never have happened, if the police hadnt opened the gates it also would never have happened , but! they wouldn't have needed to open the gates if the travelling fans without tickets didn't bother going , why would you bother travelling to a game without a ticket ? ( i know people do , my mate does) cant understand it tbh , so, how are the fans without tickets not to blame? they caused it , anyway , just my 2 penneth :wink:


Remember Liverpool fans have form. When they played Everton at the old Wembley fans were seen climbing in without tickets. Oh and there's Hysel.


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Remember Liverpool fans have form. When they played Everton at the old Wembley fans were seen climbing in without tickets. Oh and there's Hysel.[/quote]

correct, never there fault though :wink:


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Where there are people wanting to go to any ticket only event ticket touts will always be in attendance knowing full well fans will pay anything to see their heroes.

This will never change no matter what any one tries to do.It is only human nature.


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the compo cases wont get to pay+play till the cops get sentenced, in about 5 years, then the compo cases could roll on another 5

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heathcote wrote:
Where there are people wanting to go to any ticket only event ticket touts will always be in attendance knowing full well fans will pay anything to see their heroes.

This will never change no matter what any one tries to do.It is only human nature.

But we are told that this didn't happen at Hillsborough. There were no Liverpool fans at the game without a valid ticket. The fans were all queuing in an orderly manner without any pushing or shoving.
I know that I will get slated for this comment but I firmly believe that the jury were put under extreme pressure to return the unlawful killing verdict.

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