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 Post subject: Re: vaping??
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:12 pm 
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Midlife martyr wrote:
Makes you wonder how anyone managed to stop smoking before all the aids like nicotine gum patches and now vaping,
Must have had something to do with willpower and a packet of polos.


i agree, just makes it easier i suppose mate, things move on tbh, ya granny used to live on tripe & cowheels :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: vaping??
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:20 pm 
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Nidge2 wrote:
Buy it from here and make 500ml for £13, http://flavour-boss.co.uk/ Total cost with mixing £18-£19 for 500ml.
That's just the flavourings though ? Can't find the base liquids on the site despite looking.

Site I posted has everything to make e-liquid from scratch, nicotine, glycerin, glycol, flavouring etc. Like I said a lot of the vape shops buy the raw ingredients from them and just stick their own labels on.


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 Post subject: Re: vaping??
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:52 pm 
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sasha wrote:
Nidge2 wrote:
Buy it from here and make 500ml for £13, http://flavour-boss.co.uk/ Total cost with mixing £18-£19 for 500ml.
That's just the flavourings though ? Can't find the base liquids on the site despite looking.

Site I posted has everything to make e-liquid from scratch, nicotine, glycerin, glycol, flavouring etc. Like I said a lot of the vape shops buy the raw ingredients from them and just stick their own labels on.


couldn't be arsed tbh,will just buy them


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 Post subject: Re: vaping??
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:42 am 
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sasha wrote:
Nidge2 wrote:
Buy it from here and make 500ml for £13, http://flavour-boss.co.uk/ Total cost with mixing £18-£19 for 500ml.
That's just the flavourings though ? Can't find the base liquids on the site despite looking.

Site I posted has everything to make e-liquid from scratch, nicotine, glycerin, glycol, flavouring etc. Like I said a lot of the vape shops buy the raw ingredients from them and just stick their own labels on.


They won't be able to in 2017 when the stupid TPD kicks in.


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 Post subject: Re: vaping??
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:18 pm 
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Only MUGS smoke and if its killing yer who cares NOT ME its your choice mind i would barr yer from any NHS care your stoopid DIE from IT :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

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 Post subject: Re: vaping??
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:21 pm 
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Only MUGS smoke and if its killing yer who cares NOT ME its your choice mind i would barr yer from any NHS care your stoopid DIE from IT :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:



Smoking kills us but the Government don't want us vaping. Look up the TPD and see what the crazy Government are doing to Vaping. They're trying to kill it dead despite over 2 million people giving up the ciggies and moving to vaping. Thousands of people are going to be out of a job when the TPD comes in fully in May of next year.

This is classed as tobacco product according to the TPD

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This is also classed as tobacco product according to the TPD.

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This is also classed as tobacco product according to the TPD.

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Funny tobacco products aren't they??


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 Post subject: Re: vaping??
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:49 pm 
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Nidge2 wrote:
trotskys twin wrote:
Only MUGS smoke and if its killing yer who cares NOT ME its your choice mind i would barr yer from any NHS care your stoopid DIE from IT :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:



Smoking kills us but the Government don't want us vaping. Look up the TPD and see what the crazy Government are doing to Vaping. They're trying to kill it dead despite over 2 million people giving up the ciggies and moving to vaping. Thousands of people are going to be out of a job when the TPD comes in fully in May of next year.

This is classed as tobacco product according to the TPD

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This is also classed as tobacco product according to the TPD.

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This is also classed as tobacco product according to the TPD.

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Funny tobacco products aren't they??


that sh!t should be banned it pollutes the atmosphere well done the Banners =D> =D> =D> =D>

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 Post subject: Re: vaping??
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trotskys twin wrote:
Only MUGS smoke and if its killing yer who cares NOT ME its your choice mind i would barr yer from any NHS care your stoopid DIE from IT :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:


i agree with you mate, if anything happens to me due to smoking its all my fault , when i started we didn't know the consequence & it wasn't "plastered" all over the place how bad it was for you, it amazes me now, that with all the info about i still see kids smoking on the way to school :shock: i used to love " dinner break" at school, quick ciggie with the lads, then slope off to go for a fumble about behind the bike sheds with one of the lasses, tbh , looking back, that caretakers job was one of the best jobs i ever had :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: vaping??
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Nidge2 wrote:
sasha wrote:
a lot of the vape shops buy the raw ingredients from them and just stick their own labels on.


They won't be able to in 2017 when the stupid TPD kicks in.
I didn't know about that until you mentioned it so have had a quick read of it.

It appears to only apply to retailers selling ready mixed products to the public which they must have proved are safe. If the retailer buys from a supplier who has proved they are safe then the shops are ok to sell. It will perhaps stop shops from mixing their own from the raw ingredients. However I don't know if it applies to the individual ingredients or the end mixed product as a whole, PG, VG and some flavourings are already known to be safe (approved by the government for use in medicines !) so technically a shop could sell a base fluid PG/VG mix without any nicotine or flavouring they've mixed themselves.

Shouldn't affect they DIY mixer as long as you buy the ingredients seperately (nicotine and some flavourings might be a problem). VG you can buy pure as a throat medicine from the chemist along with menthol crystals, PG can be obtained from lots of sources (fluid for use in smoke machines for example) and I'm sure the nicotine could be got from somewhere as well.


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 Post subject: Re: vaping??
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:31 pm 
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ven2112 wrote:
make e-liquid from scratch
couldn't be arsed tbh,will just buy them
Just trying to save you some cash :wink:
For what you mix yourself for £30 would cost over £700 to buy ready mixed from a vape shop. Mix yer own, print out some fancy sticky labels (also available from the site) and flog em to fellow cabbies at say half what theyd pay in a shop, nice little earner !


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sasha wrote:
ven2112 wrote:
make e-liquid from scratch
couldn't be arsed tbh,will just buy them
Just trying to save you some cash :wink:
For what you mix yourself for £30 would cost over £700 to buy ready mixed from a vape shop. Mix yer own, print out some fancy sticky labels (also available from the site) and flog em to fellow cabbies at say half what theyd pay in a shop, nice little earner !



I mix my own anyway. I've not bought any juice for well over 6 months.


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 Post subject: Re: vaping??
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sasha wrote:
Nidge2 wrote:
sasha wrote:
a lot of the vape shops buy the raw ingredients from them and just stick their own labels on.


They won't be able to in 2017 when the stupid TPD kicks in.
I didn't know about that until you mentioned it so have had a quick read of it.

It appears to only apply to retailers selling ready mixed products to the public which they must have proved are safe. If the retailer buys from a supplier who has proved they are safe then the shops are ok to sell. It will perhaps stop shops from mixing their own from the raw ingredients. However I don't know if it applies to the individual ingredients or the end mixed product as a whole, PG, VG and some flavourings are already known to be safe (approved by the government for use in medicines !) so technically a shop could sell a base fluid PG/VG mix without any nicotine or flavouring they've mixed themselves.

Shouldn't affect they DIY mixer as long as you buy the ingredients seperately (nicotine and some flavourings might be a problem). VG you can buy pure as a throat medicine from the chemist along with menthol crystals, PG can be obtained from lots of sources (fluid for use in smoke machines for example) and I'm sure the nicotine could be got from somewhere as well.



I buy my VG, PG and Nicotine from Darkstar. From May of next year they won't be able to sell nicotine even though they've been selling it for well over 5 years without any problems.


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 Post subject: Re: vaping??
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:42 pm 
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I'll stick with Vaporized, keeping it simple for over 4 years, no problems what so ever, back in the gym at 51 and feeling fitter than ever before, highly recommend over real ciggies any day, happy to pay £8.10 for 30ml, last's about 10 day's, no desire to go down the mix your own route, happy vaping :D

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 Post subject: Re: vaping??
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 7:37 pm 
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Nidge2 wrote:
I buy my VG, PG and Nicotine from Darkstar. From May of next year they won't be able to sell nicotine even though they've been selling it for well over 5 years without any problems.
Had a look around the site, nice find, half the price of bluestar (which was the cheapest I'd been able to find). Done a quick calculation and I could make up 3.5 litres of juice for around £40 !! :D
I'm wondering if you'll be able to get nic concentrate from an overseas supplier or whether the import will be banned, if not a couple of litres before May would probably last over 5 years anyway 8)

Alternatively is nicotine still used as a pesticide and available from farmers supplies, if it's in a pure form it should be the same product and ok to use ? Is it a blanket ban on nic or only if it's being sold in relation to e-cigarattes ?


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 Post subject: Re: vaping??
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 7:57 pm 
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Of course, you could just give up.

I thought that's what they were about, weaning you weak willed smokers off nicotine, not as a replacement.

Take a look in the mirror sometime how ridiculous you look with those metal machines, breathing in your "juice" and then breathing out like the flying Scotsman.

You look like a musician in an alien marching band.

I can see after a few years on one of those things, having teflon coated your lungs, and drowning in your own mucus. Seriously, give it up completely.

Whatever happened to willpower?

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