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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:31 pm 
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I don't know if the courts have any discretion on the number of points issued for non disclosure, maybe you could advise on that score?

Both charges will be put to the defendant, but it's common practice to sentence only on one, usually the speeding charge.

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Put the case on Pepipoo as cabbyman says.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 6:49 pm 
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grandad wrote:
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I don't know if the courts have any discretion on the number of points issued for non disclosure, maybe you could advise on that score?

Both charges will be put to the defendant, but it's common practice to sentence only on one, usually the speeding charge.

I have sent you a pm.

Thank you.

In short he should have gone back to court and signed a statutory declaration.

You can only get one set of points per offence i.e. four bald tyres doesn't mean 4 x 3 points, it means 1 x 3 points.

If you are speeding with no insurance and four bald tyres it doesn't mean you get 4 x 3 points (tyres), plus 6 points (insurance), plus 3 points (speeding) total 21 points, in fact you get the 6 points for the insurance and your license is just endorsed with the other offences.

The fella who looks after all the stars when it comes to speeding also successfully argued that even if a driver get 4 speeding tickets on one run, as it's viewed as one driving episode the driver only get the one set of three points.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:39 pm 
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You can only get one set of points per offence i.e. four bald tyres doesn't mean 4 x 3 points, it means 1 x 3 points.

If you are speeding with no insurance and four bald tyres it doesn't mean you get 4 x 3 points (tyres), plus 6 points (insurance), plus 3 points (speeding) total 21 points, in fact you get the 6 points for the insurance and your license is just endorsed with the other offences.




but deserves the book thrown at em

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:48 pm 
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I thought different offences were dealt with separately ?

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I thought different offences were dealt with separately ?

Yes, but not in terms of points.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:28 pm 
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I thought different offences were dealt with separately ?

Yes, but not in terms of points.



has that changed then because i can remember being told once by a customer who mistook a police car for another boy racer and raced it on the A1M about being given a total of 21 points for various offences including the speeding

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:42 pm 
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edders23 wrote:
has that changed then because i can remember being told once by a customer who mistook a police car for another boy racer and raced it on the A1M about being given a total of 21 points for various offences including the speeding

The 21 points would have accumulated over a number of incidents.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:22 pm 
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has that changed then because i can remember being told once by a customer who mistook a police car for another boy racer and raced it on the A1M about being given a total of 21 points for various offences including the speeding

The 21 points would have accumulated over a number of incidents.


all for that one

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:15 pm 
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I remember an incident with a well known limousine company a few years ago where by the vehicle was stopped as it left the industrial estate where they were based and the 4 tyres were found to be of the wrong rating. The driver was given 3 points for each tyre and lost his license under the totting up.

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grandad wrote:
I remember an incident with a well known limousine company a few years ago where by the vehicle was stopped as it left the industrial estate where they were based and the 4 tyres were found to be of the wrong rating. The driver was given 3 points for each tyre and lost his license under the totting up.



something must have changed at some point surely

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grandad wrote:
I remember an incident with a well known limousine company a few years ago where by the vehicle was stopped as it left the industrial estate where they were based and the 4 tyres were found to be of the wrong rating. The driver was given 3 points for each tyre and lost his license under the totting up.

Then he got mugged.

Not excusing his actions but that's not how the law is.

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each tyre SHOULD be 3 pts, and each speeding ticket SHOULD be 6 pts....

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Penalties

If you drive a vehicle fitted with an illegal or defective tyre on a road, a police officer may give you a Fixed Penalty Notice or, in Scotland, a Conditional Offer Notice.

A police officer has discretion not to issue a fixed penalty but to report the case for prosecution. In law, the driver and the owner (if different) are liable and one or both may be summonsed.

The maximum fine which a court can impose for using a vehicle with a defective tyre is £2,500 and three penalty points (£5,000 in the case of a goods vehicle or a vehicle constructed or adapted to carry more than eight passengers).

If a vehicle is fitted with more than one defective tyre, you can be summonsed for each tyre which is illegal. Disqualification is also possible in certain circumstances.

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wannabeeahack wrote:

If a vehicle is fitted with more than one defective tyre, you can be summonsed for each tyre which is illegal. Disqualification is also possible in certain circumstances.

You can get summoned, but the court will only give one set of max points.

The other offences will be sentenced separately, but the highest point offence will be the only points, the other offences will be marked with endorsements on your record.

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