Taxi Driver Online

Forum " a meeting or medium for the open discussion of subjects of public interest" it says in my dictionary. I state my opinion,you state yours. neither is right or wrong, but an opinion. A discussion is not the automatic gainsay of the other persons opinion. I came here for an argument (Monty Python).

I know it's your bat and ball, but can we all play?

OK so cracking to the nut here.......
If in my infinate wisdom I go out and pay 35k for a plate, maybe even 70k for 2 plates, then next year Newcastle City Council deregulate/delimit's whatever. Does this then means that anyone can come in and and apply for a license license with no restrictions on numbers and also does it mean that they have to buy a top of the line cab?
I'm think I'm starting to get my head round this but if the numbers are limited I still cannot see a problem or am I missing something. I can understand that some people paying for there plate are going to be upset but hey you rolls the dice and takes your chance, and if you have a plate you can have a saloon car is that correct??

Bankside

PS...thanks for all the comments.

I would go to your licensing department tomorrow and ask your LO to write you a guarantee saying they wont de-limit until you get your investment back, and if they do the council will reimburse your investment in full.

If they do, then go buy as many plates as you like. If they don't then you only have yourself to blame when it goes arse up.

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IDFIMH

Now your joking right a civil servant that can write.......?????
or are you serious???

i would take a risk on one, remember it will still cost you 32k for a TX2 and that maybe in two to three years time if they decide to derestrict

meanwhile you would have lost valuable earning potential.

these guys will try to scare you till the cows come home.

So would you have recommended to folks in

Adur, Amber Valley, Ashford, Basildon, Bassetlaw, Cardiff, Castle Point, Chelmsford, Cherwell, Conwy, Copeland, Crawley, Denbighshire, Durham, Eastleigh, East Lindsey, East Northants, East Riding, Fylde, Gosport, Great Yarmouth, Guildford, Harlow, Ipswich, Kerrier, Kettering, Luton, Merthyr, Middlesborough, Mole Valley, New Forest, North East Lincs, Reigate and Banstead, Selby, Slough, Solihul, South Bedfordshire, South Ribble, Stratford-upon-Avon, Swindon, Thanet, Walsall, West Somerset, Wolverhampton, Woking, Wrexham, Wycombe, Wyre Forest,

that they go out and buy a plate 18 months ago?

And if someone said for f*** sake don't, would you have accused them of trying to scare-monger?

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IDFIMH

read what i write sussex, my advice to him would be to take a risk on one, if dereg comes, obviously we will try to make sure that its not the free for all situation that you espouse.

it will still cost him 32k for a TX2, that may be a condition.

as for the cases you point out, we all know about Cardiff, Wycombe are not issuing any more plates because of space constraints. Swindon was a stitch up. Slough were badly organised and also stitched. Middlesborough is not deregulated yet.

anyway why has your council not bowed down to you?

alternatively he can follow your advice and go for the partnership option, after all thats what you would do isn't it knowing that thier will be a free for all, or he can do nothing, sit back and watch and it may still cost him 32k for a new TX2 - oh i forget you also think its unfair that councils inisist on a new WAV type vehicle.

Presuming the "we" you refer to is the T&G or some other organisation, it would appear you haven't done a very good job of making sure it is not a "free for all" in all those 48 authorities that have so far removed or voted to remove numbers control. Whatever recipe you are using seems to be working just fine for those councils who want to remove quantity controls.



Lets assume the gentleman doesn't want to put on a TX2 in Newcastle perhaps you can inform him of their current policy with regard to vehicle type?



If it weren't for this site I doubt you would know an awful lot about Cardiff?

Wycombe have not issued any licenses since they took the decision to remove quantity controls, this is because the district council is waiting for the County council to install more rank space. Their policy remains unrestricted and if anyone down in Wycombe was aggrieved at the situation they could force Wycombe council to issue the licenses regardless of the rank space.

Swindon took a democratic decision to remove numbers, I suspect that democratic decision didn't sit too well with you? I get the distinct feeling that you don't like democratic decisions that don't go your way?

Same with Slough, you didn't like that democratic decision either. What is it about these so called trade bodies who bang on about democracy and the rights of the workers yet when it comes down to unfavourable democratic decisions they end up throwing their toys out of the pram?

Would it be fair to say, that most of what you have ever written on this forum in the past pertaining to be fact Mr 187ums has been totally inaccurate and for the most part intentionally misleading?

JD

Epistemology:

I had this conversation with a lecturer once, now I know why I remember the word and not the argument.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

Interesting note on taxi rank space holding up new taxi licenses.

Hereford i believe is deregulated but now only allows wav vehicles to gain free licenses. (saloon plates cost about 4,500 which i think is dirt cheap - if only I had the money)

however back to the ranks.....

Hereford has about 26 rank spaces (including 12 which are part time -after 10.00pm) I think and 500 taxis!!

Friday and Saturdays are real exciting as 100's of taxis roll out and try and rank in those places it's good fun watching the police trying to get something resembling order on the streets.

Kevin

Thank you everyone for there replys it has been a great help I had aready decided to go forward anyway but maybe now not as fast as I had planned.

thanks to all

Bankside

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Skull this is a very "big word" for you, next time try to use it in the correct context - your recieve a BIG FAT F for failure as usual.

As for you Mr Wanna B Taxi Driver - why do i get the feeling that you will allow any view on this site as long as it falls in to line with your line. You have banned virtually everyone else who gave a different opinion to you.

You are probably still wondering how Jacobs slipped through your fingers. In fact probably still a little sore from it all.

Not half as sore as you will be when deregulation hits your burgh little man, so much for your little empire eh.



No drivers wishing to drive taxis, no scarcity of shifts available, no inflated rental value, no inflated plate premium.


No rationing of licence plate's, no plate value,
no demand to buy.

No more blowing about your plate value to all the people you meet on holiday.

No more polishing your plate value with your arse.





I wouldn't swap places with you for anything little man. When you fall, and you will fall, I will take a bet that someone like you will never recover.


BTW you deny knowledge in every context, your hallucinating if you think you are going to keep that plate value before you pay off that big fat loan.

The fear you have of de-restriction permeates every word you write, you live in fear of the day it will happen, and that’s the difference between you and me.

I don’t have to.


Can I come and watch when it happens, shouldn't be long now.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

What we are really talking about here is the fear of what you might lose through buying into a hopeless cause, an illusion of ownership. Twenty years ago the quantity controls might have worked but not now, its game over. 187ums you are consumed by the fear of what you might lose and rightly so.

The argument in its simplest form means we are right and you are wrong, sooner or later you and others like you will have to face the reality of your situation. The vast majority on this forum could go out and buy in just like you and perpetuate this madness, but know one wants too. Have you ever wondered why? Let me spell it out for you, know one here likes the idea of someone having the power or the control to take something away from them at the stroke of a pen, and that’s the kind of power you give councillors when you buy into something you don’t really own. Ownership of a taxi plate is an illusion nothing more, and you probably don’t want to believe it, but you can see it, and that’s what this argument is about.

In other words “it’s all in your head” you’ve just bought into the biggest pup of your life and now you are so far in you can’t let go.

You’re dangling over a precipice and what lies beneath is oblivion, no more the little man with the illusion of substance, just obscurity, your self-identity shattered into a thousand little pieces.

All of this from a shinny little piece of plastic, and the need to believe it is more than what it is.

Have fun!

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"