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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:34 pm 
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why do magistrates let these idiots stay on the road surely public safety over rides one persons circumstances ?

A motorcyclist with 46 points on their licence was stopped by police after travelling at 110mph (177kph).
Norfolk and Suffolk Roads Police clocked the rider on the A47 near Norwich at about 15:00 GMT on Saturday.
Officers found that the motorcyclist, who was carrying a passenger, also had no insurance or tax, and their MOT ran out in 2008.
The motorcyclist will appear in court in due course.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:46 pm 
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edders23 wrote:
why do magistrates let these idiots stay on the road surely public safety over rides one persons circumstances ?

Who says they have?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:24 pm 
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Jail coming up for this one =D>

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:23 pm 
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Jail coming up for this one =D>

Na. [-(

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:45 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
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why do magistrates let these idiots stay on the road surely public safety over rides one persons circumstances ?

Who says they have?

I was expecting a question asking me to explain. So I will to myself.

Firstly points stay on your license for four years, yet only apply to totting for three.

Secondly he may have been given those points by the court in his absence, but can't be banned until he attends court, either by summons (voluntarily) or warrant (picked up by police).

Thirdly, and this is the one that always gets folks in a pickle, is the matter of 'exceptional circumstances'. This very rarely applies to the actual drivers personal circumstances, more to other peoples. in other words innocent peoples circumstances.

Two examples.

1) A bloke has an elderly relative who's only way to get out to the doctors or the hospital is via lifts from that bloke, he is also on call to them 24/7 or their registered carer. Do we say tough sh** to the old dear for six months?
2) A bloke would lose his job should he lose he DVLA license. Well that's down to him, but what if he being out of work leads to his house being repossessed. Is that fair on his wife and kids? What have they done?

Of course the alternative case could be made, that people should be aware of these pitfalls, but my point is that it isn't as black and white as people think.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:40 am 
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Sussex wrote:
1) A bloke has an elderly relative who's only way to get out to the doctors or the hospital is via lifts from that bloke, he is also on call to them 24/7 or their registered carer. Do we say tough sh** to the old dear for six months?
2) A bloke would lose his job should he lose he DVLA license. Well that's down to him, but what if he being out of work leads to his house being repossessed. Is that fair on his wife and kids? What have they done?

Of course the alternative case could be made, that people should be aware of these pitfalls, but my point is that it isn't as black and white as people think.


I remember years ago before I became a PH driver I was on 9 points and for just over 6 months I had to drive round like Miss Daisy, if people can't keep to 12 points and below then that's their fault.

Regarding your first point, I'm sure the local taxi firm could pick them up.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:12 pm 
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Would the taxi driver be able to inject medicine or stick pessaries in?

My point is that just because someone has got loads of points and still drives it doesn't mean the judicial system is at fault.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:18 pm 
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Sussex wrote:

My point is that just because someone has got loads of points and still drives it doesn't mean the judicial system is at fault.

Exceptional circumstances/hardship bollox! the rules should apply equally to all. the line should be drawn in the sand. 12 points means a ban. The same for other crimes. A chap round here robbed a shop a few years ago and stabbed the shop keeper. He pleaded PTSD and stayed out of prison. Yes well done whoever decided that one because last week the same chap robbed a few shops here only this time he was armed with an axe which looking at the charges, he used on 2 people from different shops and has been charged with 11 offenses. One of the victims required stiches to a head wound after being attacked!
Hopefully he wont pull the wool over the eyes of the judge and jury.

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grandad wrote:
Sussex wrote:

My point is that just because someone has got loads of points and still drives it doesn't mean the judicial system is at fault.

Exceptional circumstances/hardship bollox! the rules should apply equally to all. the line should be drawn in the sand. 12 points means a ban. The same for other crimes. A chap round here robbed a shop a few years ago and stabbed the shop keeper. He pleaded PTSD and stayed out of prison. Yes well done whoever decided that one because last week the same chap robbed a few shops here only this time he was armed with an axe which looking at the charges, he used on 2 people from different shops and has been charged with 11 offenses. One of the victims required stiches to a head wound after being attacked!
Hopefully he wont pull the wool over the eyes of the judge and jury.


He'll be covered under the Mental Health Act, if he got away with the first one he's definitely under the Mental Health Act.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:19 pm 
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Nidge2 wrote:
grandad wrote:
Sussex wrote:

My point is that just because someone has got loads of points and still drives it doesn't mean the judicial system is at fault.

Exceptional circumstances/hardship bollox! the rules should apply equally to all. the line should be drawn in the sand. 12 points means a ban. The same for other crimes. A chap round here robbed a shop a few years ago and stabbed the shop keeper. He pleaded PTSD and stayed out of prison. Yes well done whoever decided that one because last week the same chap robbed a few shops here only this time he was armed with an axe which looking at the charges, he used on 2 people from different shops and has been charged with 11 offenses. One of the victims required stiches to a head wound after being attacked!
Hopefully he wont pull the wool over the eyes of the judge and jury.


He'll be covered under the Mental Health Act, if he got away with the first one he's definitely under the Mental Health Act.

He is currently remanded in custody.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:25 pm 
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and they will have him assessed whilst there as to his mental state

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:30 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
Would the taxi driver be able to inject medicine or stick pessaries in?

My point is that just because someone has got loads of points and still drives it doesn't mean the judicial system is at fault.


The taxi driver wouldn't have to, the carer who is banned from driving will still be caring for their patient.


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getting my bike on the road for Easter like 8) ,cant wait , great bikes man , front facing speed cameras? fook em , no plate on the front of my bike :lol: , had all the licenses over the years, bike,car,hgv class 1,excavators,tippers,bobcat skid steer, counterbalance flt instructor & never had any points at all ( obviously didn't go on the roads with some like), having posted that now, i will be guaranteed to get 3 tomorrow :lol: :lol: & i agree with grandad on this, should be the same for all :wink:


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