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mancityfan
 Post subject: Re: new licensing Policy
PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:41 pm 
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The council will not accept applications for renewal after the expiry date, but the application will be treated as a fresh application and a proportionate application fee is due.

Interesting I would do a FOI to see how many vehicles they have re-licensed that
A had expired
B that the vehicle was to old to be licensed
I think you get the way I'm going
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mancityfan
 Post subject: Re: new licensing Policy
PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:47 pm 
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A saloon / estate vehicle or MPV based on a saloon vehicle, including Ford C Max, Renault Scenic, Citroen Picasso, VW Touran, Vauxhall Meriva and other similar vehicles, will normally be licensed for a maximum period of ten years from the date of first registration.
An application may be submitted on an annual basis to extend the ten year period provided the vehicle passes an inspection, conducted by a BSU officer / enforcement officer / licensing officer or SODA to assess overall condition, mileage, service record, accident damage history etc.

I'm losing the will to live, this says so long as it passes its test it can carry on, so why bother with age policy.
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mancityfan
 Post subject: Re: new licensing Policy
PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:53 pm 
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Damage to licensed vehicles
Any damage to a licensed vehicle must be notified to a council enforcement officer as soon as possible and in any case within 48 hours. Unless the vehicle is so severely damaged that it will never again be serviceable as a licensed vehicle, the council will make an appointment for the driver to produce the vehicle for inspection.

I've had enough now, this council have decided there above the law of the land, and have decided to re-write the law.
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Deks
 Post subject: Re: new licensing Policy
PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:39 am 
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mancityfan wrote:
This policy encourages newer and cleaner vehicles for the majority of licensed vehicles but each application will be considered on its individual merits to ensure that the overall quality and safety of licensed vehicles is maintained thereby providing the appropriate and necessary commercial opportunities for local businesses to compete with out of area businesses.

So there are no age restrictions?


yes and NO

as a right an guarantee licensing will accept a car it has to be 2 years old or newer

Older vehicles will be considered provided they meet the approval of licensing officer
it will consider age, history, condition and euro6 compliant.

This is where in my opinion the problem lies as its open to his/her interpretation and what side of the bed they got out of
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Deks
 Post subject: Re: new licensing Policy
PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:40 am 
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mancityfan wrote:
Driving
All taxi and private drivers must also pass the Driving Standards Agency (DSA) taxi driving test or similar approved test.
Note: Private hire drivers will not have to take this test if it is not included in the national standards set by the Secretary of State in due course.

A bit out of date and what so special about private hire drivers that they don't need a test and hackneys do?


told them that in the consultation stage

but they said it is still valid as private companies would be taking up the mantle
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Deks
 Post subject: Re: new licensing Policy
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mancityfan wrote:
Dual badge holders
If a driver wishes to convert his / her current hackney driver or private hire driver badge to a dual driver’s badge, the fee due is the full dual badge fee, less the pro-rata value of the fee remaining on the current badge, plus an administration fee to cover costs of up-dating records, and producing new badges and completing a dual badge test. An application to convert to a dual badge will be treated as if it is a new application and as such the council will consider (a) whether the applicant is a ‘fit and proper person’ and / or (b) whether there are any current issues to consider, eg enforcement proceedings and appeal hearings.

Very strange if they issue dual badges surely every driver would have one, the cost should be the same, so god knows why they don't just issue dual to everyone.



A councillor recently asked me why the dual badge costs more than a single badge
so I asked the council this very question in fact I tried to challenge it when it was adopted
also we only £10 discount if we re licence for 3 years over rather than 1 year

the response"The fees have been adopted in accordance with the democratic process and no representations were made."
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Deks
 Post subject: Re: new licensing Policy
PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:48 am 
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mancityfan wrote:
A medical certificate is valid for a period of three years up to the age of 70 years. Once a driver is 70, he / she needs a new medical certificate each year. A medical certificate should be renewed at least 14 days before its expiry date.

Must be one of the few councils not using the DVLA medical standards.


I'll have to look that up

we used to be every 5 years but they changed that in new policy
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Deks
 Post subject: Re: new licensing Policy
PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:49 am 
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mancityfan wrote:
An operator’s licence is granted for a period of two or five years. The fee for an operator’s licence is (a) pro-rata for the period applied for and (b) based on the number of cars they operate. An operator must also fulfil the test to be a ‘fit and proper person’ to hold a licence. They should therefore hold a driver’s badge or satisfy the requirements for a driver as set out in part three above.

Operators licences are for 5 years, only in exceptional circumstances can they be issued for less and only applies to individuals not companies.


Can you link me to this
as I'll enjoy challenging something else
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Deks
 Post subject: Re: new licensing Policy
PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:52 am 
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mancityfan wrote:
The council will not accept applications for renewal after the expiry date, but the application will be treated as a fresh application and a proportionate application fee is due.

Interesting I would do a FOI to see how many vehicles they have re-licensed that
A had expired
B that the vehicle was to old to be licensed
I think you get the way I'm going



done :-D
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Deks
 Post subject: Re: new licensing Policy
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mancityfan wrote:
Damage to licensed vehicles
Any damage to a licensed vehicle must be notified to a council enforcement officer as soon as possible and in any case within 48 hours. Unless the vehicle is so severely damaged that it will never again be serviceable as a licensed vehicle, the council will make an appointment for the driver to produce the vehicle for inspection.

I've had enough now, this council have decided there above the law of the land, and have decided to re-write the law.


They certainly seem to think so

challenging them is basically ignored the two people that oversee us just will not accept anything we say

all smug and smiley out others faces but do as they want
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Deks
 Post subject: Re: new licensing Policy
PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:20 am 
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mancityfan wrote:
An operator’s licence is granted for a period of two or five years. The fee for an operator’s licence is (a) pro-rata for the period applied for and (b) based on the number of cars they operate. An operator must also fulfil the test to be a ‘fit and proper person’ to hold a licence. They should therefore hold a driver’s badge or satisfy the requirements for a driver as set out in part three above.

Operators licences are for 5 years, only in exceptional circumstances can they be issued for less and only applies to individuals not companies.


worth pointing out also our council charges the operators licence per vehicle and not per operator

I have 3 vehicles and have to pay for each of them so mine is 3x as much as a single vehicle operator so on and so on
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mancityfan
 Post subject: Re: new licensing Policy
PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:41 pm 
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Deks wrote:
mancityfan wrote:
Damage to licensed vehicles
Any damage to a licensed vehicle must be notified to a council enforcement officer as soon as possible and in any case within 48 hours. Unless the vehicle is so severely damaged that it will never again be serviceable as a licensed vehicle, the council will make an appointment for the driver to produce the vehicle for inspection.

I've had enough now, this council have decided there above the law of the land, and have decided to re-write the law.


They certainly seem to think so

challenging them is basically ignored the two people that oversee us just will not accept anything we say

all smug and smiley out others faces but do as they want


This is basic stuff any licensing officer should no this and if he doesn't he should be sacked, also the trade should have picked this basic error up. So go and tell them to change it because they can't re-write statute.
Without prejudice to the provisions of [section 170 of the Road Traffic Act 1988], the proprietor of a hackney carriage or of a private hire vehicle licensed by a district council shall report to them as soon as reasonably practicable, and in any case within seventy-two hours of the occurrence thereof, any accident to such hackney carriage or private hire vehicle causing damage materially affecting the safety, performance or appearance of the hackney carriage or private hire vehicle or the comfort or convenience of persons carried therein.
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mancityfan
 Post subject: Re: new licensing Policy
PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:43 pm 
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Deks wrote:
mancityfan wrote:
An operator’s licence is granted for a period of two or five years. The fee for an operator’s licence is (a) pro-rata for the period applied for and (b) based on the number of cars they operate. An operator must also fulfil the test to be a ‘fit and proper person’ to hold a licence. They should therefore hold a driver’s badge or satisfy the requirements for a driver as set out in part three above.

Operators licences are for 5 years, only in exceptional circumstances can they be issued for less and only applies to individuals not companies.


worth pointing out also our council charges the operators licence per vehicle and not per operator

I have 3 vehicles and have to pay for each of them so mine is 3x as much as a single vehicle operator so on and so on


So you have 3 Operators licences?
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mancityfan
 Post subject: Re: new licensing Policy
PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:51 pm 
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Deks wrote:
mancityfan wrote:
An operator’s licence is granted for a period of two or five years. The fee for an operator’s licence is (a) pro-rata for the period applied for and (b) based on the number of cars they operate. An operator must also fulfil the test to be a ‘fit and proper person’ to hold a licence. They should therefore hold a driver’s badge or satisfy the requirements for a driver as set out in part three above.

Operators licences are for 5 years, only in exceptional circumstances can they be issued for less and only applies to individuals not companies.


Can you link me to this
as I'll enjoy challenging something else


http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/201 ... ision/5/10
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Deks
 Post subject: Re: new licensing Policy
PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:56 pm 
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mancityfan wrote:
Deks wrote:
mancityfan wrote:
An operator’s licence is granted for a period of two or five years. The fee for an operator’s licence is (a) pro-rata for the period applied for and (b) based on the number of cars they operate. An operator must also fulfil the test to be a ‘fit and proper person’ to hold a licence. They should therefore hold a driver’s badge or satisfy the requirements for a driver as set out in part three above.

Operators licences are for 5 years, only in exceptional circumstances can they be issued for less and only applies to individuals not companies.


worth pointing out also our council charges the operators licence per vehicle and not per operator

I have 3 vehicles and have to pay for each of them so mine is 3x as much as a single vehicle operator so on and so on


So you have 3 Operators licences?


I have one operator licence booklet that lists all my vehicles in but I pay according to the number of vehicles not the one operator licence
we used to have one operator licence the fee for this back in the day was £200 for 2 years now we pay £50 per vehicle for 2 years
so actually better off but my argument is I am one operator no matter how many vehicles I have
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