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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:06 am 
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in other words test my vehicles every 5 months instead of every 6


I always test my vehicles One month before end of licence..what's hard about that



I just don't believe in it I would prefer to be within a couple of weeks of the original test date so that I don't end up with a 7 month interval between tests or the certificate being unacceptable when road taxing my vehicle because the expiry date is too close to the end of the month :wink: If you get it done too early you can end up with compliance certificate running out before the road tax and the post office refusing to accept it


Surely its the same here as it is where you are.

Let's say my plate runs out on 1st September 2017, I am allowed to get my taxi MOT'd 28 days before the expiry date, so that will be 4th August 2017. My taxi passes its test with flying colours, I am then allowed to renew my plate anytime after so if I go and get it done that day and I'm only allowed to renew it every 6 months (cars older than 8 years are 6 months), the expiry date of my new plate will be 1st March 2018. When that plate is about to run out I would be allowed to get it MOT'd from 1st February 2018 which is 6 months (not 7) from its previous MOT and when I go and renew the plate it will expire on 1st September 2018.

It seems like you're the one who has cocked up by leaving it until the last minute.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:37 am 
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the point is the compliance certificate is dated for the day it was tested NOT the date the test is next due so if you test a vehicle too early the MOT certificate might run out on the 30th of the month but you are not due for testing till the 15th of the following month but your road tax is due on the 31st

the post office will not accept a compliance certificate if it is dated the 30th even if the council deems it to be valid until the 15th of the month following

if you put a vehicle through compliance 3 to 4 weeks early then EVERY subsequent test for that vehicle has to be the same amount early otherwise your compliance certificate becomes invalid for MOT purposes before due date

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:44 am 
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edders23 wrote:
And also according to schedule J of their licensing conditions the maximum points for the offence is only 4 but i got given 6 for both offences !!!!!

no doubt they will claim it is a different offence


that was your first mistake standing for that abuse by them WHYdid you?

Secondly as i always say never ever rep yourself YOU DID which is bloody stupid, i am surprised you come across as a decent intelligent type of guy.

Where now obviously you need to be represented by a solicitor #-o only one fully conversant with the relevant legislation who might be difficult to find in your neck of the woods.

Obviously an experienced Trade Union official would be your best bet, reckon they could sort it easily but you AINT a member are you so thats out Unions dont do issues pre dating membership #-o anyway wish you luck, and others reading this heed the lesson JOIN A UNION. :D

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:00 pm 
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edders23 wrote:

They were demanding an action plan by me which guaranteed that all vehicles be tested at least 4 weeks before due date to guarantee nothing can go wrong

in other words test my vehicles every 5 months instead of every 6

That is not the case. If your test is due by june 1st and then december 1st then the tests could be carried out on May 1st and November 1st. Still 6 months apart.
I assume that you told the Council about the problems by phone and not by email? Just a thought but is it possible that if you rang them that your service provider may be able to confirm that you called the Council and then you can ask the Council for their record of that call using their "infallible" system.

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phone records only obtainable by court order :sad:

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what happened then? to long these posts mind :-|


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:36 pm 
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edders23 wrote:
phone records only obtainable by court order :sad:

Really.

I can get a print out of my land line and mobile, it's called an itemised bill.

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phone records only obtainable by court order :sad:

Really.

I can get a print out of my land line and mobile, it's called an itemised bill.

Ah but that may have to be turned on and paid for before the records are kept, well unless you are the police.

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well I was supposed to be interviewed by a "manager" who didn't interview me but talked to all of the members of the licensing team and concluded they were right this is clearly going all the way to the magistrates court more expense I can do without

anyone know if these Patterson law people are any good ? or how expensive they are ?

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grandad wrote:
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phone records only obtainable by court order :sad:

Really.

I can get a print out of my land line and mobile, it's called an itemised bill.



Ah but that may have to be turned on and paid for before the records are kept, well unless you are the police.



er, no.... ive always had access

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well I was supposed to be interviewed by a "manager" who didn't interview me but talked to all of the members of the licensing team and concluded they were right this is clearly going all the way to the magistrates court more expense I can do without

anyone know if these Patterson law people are any good ? or how expensive they are ?



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AS FOR EXPENSE NO IDEA BUT NO LAWYER IS CHEAP

CANT WORK THE pm SYSTEM MESELF #-o

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CANT WORK THE pm SYSTEM MESELF #-o


Its idiot-proof..........to a point

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edders called the number you sent no reply but message on phone from Colin ??

maybe its wrong number ?? TT

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Called 4 times no answer ?/

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edders23 wrote:
well I was supposed to be interviewed by a "manager" who didn't interview me but talked to all of the members of the licensing team and concluded they were right this is clearly going all the way to the magistrates court more expense I can do without

anyone know if these Patterson law people are any good ? or how expensive they are ?


You have 21 days to appeal, about £200, the appeal is easy takes about 4 mins to do.you have to take it to the nearest Magistrates’ Court with the £200 (it might be £205 or £210 now) along with a copy of the decision letter from the council, as it’s the decision your appealing against. I Then you MUST get a receipt for the money, and acknowledgment on paper that the appeal has been lodged on that date.then it gets dearer in total with a legal rep I would say about £1500-£2000. in total. If you win you could ask for costs Bradford v Booth which basically sets out that costs should follow the event/result.


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