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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:19 pm 
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More rear end rhetoric from Sussex by the sea.

Is that it, or are you going to elaborate on that view? :-k

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so can you see the link between drivers hours and deregulation just yet?


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Can you see the link between inflated rentals and drivers' hours yet? :?

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187ums wrote:
so can you see the link between drivers hours and deregulation just yet?

I'm awaiting with bated breath.

But as long as the level of custom doesn't reduce, then I can't see the problem.

Just think wouldn't it be nice if we could all earn the same money but work less hours to gain it. :-$

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:16 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
187ums wrote:
so can you see the link between drivers hours and deregulation just yet?

I'm awaiting with bated breath.

But as long as the level of custom doesn't reduce, then I can't see the problem.

Just think wouldn't it be nice if we could all earn the same money but work less hours to gain it. :-$


Yes,it would be nice. But not at all likely, with an unlimited number of taxi's, driven by an unlimited number of drivers, is it?


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Well that's the point again jimbo, the number of taxi drivers is unlimited at present in restricted areas, and the only limit is that imposed by the market - ie wages are so low they can't get any lower.

This demonstrates the basic hypocrisy of your position, as always.

Why don't you have a read of some of the stuff on the site before coming up with the same old hypocrisy. For example, what about the Bournemouth mush referred to in this piece:

http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/vie ... php?t=2655

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Well that's the point again jimbo, the number of taxi drivers is unlimited at present in restricted areas, and the only limit is that imposed by the market - ie wages are so low they can't get any lower.

This demonstrates the basic hypocrisy of your position, as always.

Why don't you have a read of some of the stuff on the site before coming up with the same old hypocrisy. For example, what about the Bournemouth mush referred to in this piece:

http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/vie ... php?t=2655


Why do you call me a hypocrite? I do not employ drivers, or rent out my cab. The cab I own has never been driven by anyone else but me. I would rather my cab was parked up, where it is safe and sound, than being abused by someone who has no financial interest in it's wellbeing.
If someone wants to become an owner driver, I have no problem with that at all. They could follow the same easy path to cab ownership that I have. Or, on the other hand they could offer their services to an owner. I have yet to meet a driver who is forced to drive for any owner, they do it because they choose to do it. Even little old me started out as a driver, and I was very happy to do it. In fact, I was so happy, I bought the company. :lol: :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:42 am 
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If someone wants to become an owner driver, I have no problem with that at all. They could follow the same easy path to cab ownership that I have.

One wonders how much money you have Jimbo, if you think paying someone up to £50,000 for a peice of plastic is an easy path. :-k

Especially when many many councils are de-limiting. :wink:

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Sussex wrote:
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If someone wants to become an owner driver, I have no problem with that at all. They could follow the same easy path to cab ownership that I have.

One wonders how much money you have Jimbo, if you think paying someone up to £50,000 for a peice of plastic is an easy path. :-k

Especially when many many councils are de-limiting. :wink:


But the ones that really matter, are not.


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But the ones that really matter, are not.

Until a time comes when the gov do what they said they would five years ago. :wink:

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jimbo wrote:
Why do you call me a hypocrite? I do not employ drivers, or rent out my cab. The cab I own has never been driven by anyone else but me. I would rather my cab was parked up, where it is safe and sound, than being abused by someone who has no financial interest in it's wellbeing.


The reason I call you a hypocrite has nothing to do with this, it's because you bleat about the consequences of an unlimited number of drivers, but that's exactly what happens in restricted areas, irrespective of what you do individually. And you quite obviously don't mind being afforded preferential treatement from your council, so if others have to work more hours as a consequence then this clearly makes you a hypocrite. And you shout down any measure that might boost earnings and thus mean less hours, such as the DSA test.

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If someone wants to become an owner driver, I have no problem with that at all. They could follow the same easy path to cab ownership that I have. Or, on the other hand they could offer their services to an owner. I have yet to meet a driver who is forced to drive for any owner, they do it because they choose to do it. Even little old me started out as a driver, and I was very happy to do it. In fact, I was so happy, I bought the company.


I would hardly call raising £50k an easy way into the trade. Many simply couldn't raise that sort of money, and others wouldn't risk it on a plate in any case. And whatever happens in Lincoln, in Brighton and places like it the big premiums depend on milking drives who don't have a plate, so if anyone tries to get self-rigtheous about earings and hours then that's hypocrisy.

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jimbo wrote:
I have yet to meet a driver who is forced to drive for any owner, they do it because they choose to do it


That's about as useful as saying that a slave chooses to be a slave because they could get out of it by killing themselves. :-|

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jimbo wrote:
I have yet to meet a driver who is forced to drive for any owner, they do it because they choose to do it


That's about as useful as saying that a slave chooses to be a slave because they could get out of it by killing themselves. :-|


Lucky, then, that I did not have to raise 50K, then isn't it?

I was no more a slave than a person who works in Tesco's. Some drivers out there are happy with their lot. The "Slaves" are the cab owners with finance who will find their earnings falling thanks to the de-limiters, I bet they will be falling over each other to get to you to thank you for all your good work in (f)ucking up their lives


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Yes Jimbo, a level playing field can hurt :?

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Yes Jimbo, a level playing field can hurt :?


Not as much as a minefield though, eh?


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