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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:12 am 
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Here is an extract from a legal website.

What if I caused, or partly caused, the accident?
There are some cases when you will clearly be at fault for causing an accident. For instance, if, as a result of your own error, you lost control whilst driving your own vehicle and had an accident that did not involve any other vehicles. In this case it would not be possible to bring a claim for compensation because there is no other person to bring a claim against.
Generally, if you are injured as a result of an accident that was your fault you will not be able to make a claim for compensation unless another person or organisation was also partly to blame for the accident.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:27 pm 
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But what if it wasn't your fault or error and no other parties are involved, say a tyre blowout. Do you get compensated then ?

If I'm involved in an accident that wasn't my fault but no-one else involved I'd like to think I'm insured for any injury.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:24 pm 
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sasha wrote:
But what if it wasn't your fault or error and no other parties are involved, say a tyre blowout. Do you get compensated then ?

If I'm involved in an accident that wasn't my fault but no-one else involved I'd like to think I'm insured for any injury.

But you are still claiming against yourself.

The insurance company will not pay out, therefore you would have to claim direct against yourself.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:41 am 
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sasha wrote:
But what if it wasn't your fault or error and no other parties are involved, say a tyre blowout. Do you get compensated then ?

If I'm involved in an accident that wasn't my fault but no-one else involved I'd like to think I'm insured for any injury.

I think you had better ask your insurers. Or you could just ask one of the claims handling firms if they would take on a case where you are claiming against your own insurance.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:40 pm 
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grandad wrote:
Here is an extract from a legal website.

What if I caused, or partly caused, the accident?
There are some cases when you will clearly be at fault for causing an accident. For instance, if, as a result of your own error, you lost control whilst driving your own vehicle and had an accident that did not involve any other vehicles. In this case it would not be possible to bring a claim for compensation because there is no other person to bring a claim against.

Generally, if you are injured as a result of an accident that was your fault you will not be able to make a claim for compensation unless another person or organisation was also partly to blame for the accident.


Not sure if that's entirely relevant to the point being made - that sounds more like it's about a compensation claim rather than an insurance claim, although of course the two can overlap.

If you have some kind of personal accident where there's no insurance cover then obviously you can only claim if there's a third party at fault.

On the other hand, surely the whole point of *comprehensive* insurance cover is to provide compensation for loss when there's no third party to claim from, even if you are at fault somehow.

Obviously the vehicle will normally be covered in such circumstances, but according to the Go Compare website, personal accident cover is normally included under a comprehensive policy. Read the whole lot here, but the most relevant information seems to be:

https://www.gocompare.com/car-insurance ... ury-cover/

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If you're injured whilst in your car, you might assume that personal injury cover is already included on your car insurance policy.

But that's not necessarily the case, especially if you don't have a comprehensive policy, and even if you do have cover it might not be to the level that you expect.

While you'll be able to make a claim against a third party if they're to blame for the accident, if you're at fault or there's no blame you'll need personal accident cover on your policy to have a chance of getting compensation.

On 30 April, 2015, Gocompare.com checked 225 comprehensive car insurance policies on the matrix of independent financial researcher Defaqto and found that 94% included personal accident cover as standard, while a further 3% allowed it to be added as an optional extra.

If you search through Gocompare.com, your results table will allow you to filter it to only show policies offering personal accident insurance, while the table itself will clearly display if such cover is included and at what level.


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Exclusions to personal accident policies

As with any insurance policy, it's the responsibility of the policyholder to meet certain conditions.

Personal accident policies can have restrictions, such as covering only the driver and his or her spouse, or only covering people under 80.

What's more your policy may become invalid if, for example, you're injured whilst driving when drunk or under the influence of drugs.

Personal accident cover also excludes some types of treatment - for instance, 92% of the policies checked on Defaqto didn't cover the cost of physiotherapy treatment following an accident.

You might also not be covered for personal injury if you're taking part in a sport such as rallying - read your policy documents carefully to see what is and isn't included.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:55 pm 
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So on some policies you are covered others not, and some only if you have personal injury cover, but not in all circumstances. Phew !

Say I'm not covered on my policy so can't claim for my injuries, BUT my named driver (same policy) would be able to claim (off me!) if they were to be injured driving my vehicle on my policy !!
What if my named driver was driving and I was a passenger and had an accident, they could probably claim but what about me ?!

Insurers are a bunch of c8nts.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:11 pm 
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Wonder what happened here?

Mother confined to a wheelchair after being hit by a 'taxi' in Bradford.

Taxi went through a red light when mother was on the crossing, according to the newspaper and the mother's husband.

Yet no witnesses and no skid marks, and driver never prosecuted by police.

But the victim awarded compensation, presumably this was either because she sued the driver and/or the driver's insurance paid out.

Only £2,000 compo though - maybe the insurer and/or lawyer quite glad to settle for that, even if fault was disputed - a minor bump between two cars could easily cost a lot more than that considering all the rigmarole the process amounts to even for something trivial.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -home.html

Daily Mail wrote:
A mother-of-two has been left wheelchair-bound after a taxi driver ran a red light and ploughed into her as she rushed home to care for her disabled daughter.

Natalie Coates, from Bradford, West Yorkshire, was a full-time carer for her 13-year-old daughter, Briany, until she was hit by a car in December 2014.
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'A taxi driver had gone through the red lights, despite her green man showing. He went right through and ran her over.

'Workmen had stopped the taxi driver. Without them I suspect he'd have just driven off.'
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The couple are angry that the 'reckless' actions of the taxi driver have cost them so much.

However, because there were no witnesses to the accident and no skid marks to indicate if he had been speeding, the driver was never prosecuted by police.
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Despite the driver not being prosecuted, Ms Coates was awarded compensation after the accident - but it was from before she was left wheelchair-bound.

Mr Coates says that the couple regret accepting the paltry amount, which was under £2,000, as it in no way makes up for how badly the crash has affected her life.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:54 pm 
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No independent witnesses to confirm the lady's account.

Maybe the driver told the police and insurance company that the light was green.

Only a fool would accept £2,000 if their account was credible.

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