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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:04 pm 
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Police say some Derby taxis are deathtraps after they find serious defects

https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/d ... es-2178298

Corrosion, fractured suspension and loose headlamp discovered

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Taxis have had their licences suspended due to defects on their cars after police officers carried out a crackdown on cabs across the city.

Officers from Derbyshire police took to the roads to check the standards of taxis operating in Derby and found several problems in some of the cabs.

As part of their monthly checks on the city’s Hackney Carriage and private hire vehicles, Derbyshire Roads Policing Unit stops vehicles at random and assesses their condition.

Some of the issues found this time around included a fractured suspension, corrosion and a back light not being secure.

Officers carried out their checks for about six hours and stated that they inspected six cars during that time.

Four of these were in a poor state and had their licences suspended, two others had advisories.

What was wrong with the taxis?

There were a number of defects with the cars that had their licences suspended.

One private hire taxi had a fractured suspension coil spring which had become detached from its lower seating point.

Another private-hire cab's battery and headlamp were not secure and the vehicle licence was also not secure in the taxi.

A third private-hire vehicle had low tyre pressures in both front tyres with them standing at 21psi and 24psi, when they should have been at 37psi.

The brake light was also out and a wheel joint was defective.

The final car with defects was a Hackney Carriage which had corrosion within 30cm of the lower rear passenger seat mount. There was a hole in the bottom of the taxi.

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The steering idler box was also not secure.

What happened to the vehicles?

Out of the six vehicles inspected, the worst four had their licences suspended and each one was also issued a PG9 prohibition notice.

The other two taxis that were checked during the crackdown were only given advisories.

What is a PG9 prohibition notice?

This concerns a car's roadworthiness.

These are issued for mechanical problems or for the condition of a vehicle’s bodywork and equipment.

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It could have an immediate or delayed effect depending on how severe the defect is.

The Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency has published a list of defects explaining whether immediate or delayed prohibitions are issued.

Was the crackdown a success?

Officers from Derbyshire Roads Policing Unit posted their finds on Twitter.

They stated that the operation was not a success as the situation never improves.

In a tweet they wrote: "Officers carried out checks for about six hours in Derby.

"We checked six taxis, four of which (illustrated in our tweets) were prohibited and the other two had advisories.

"As usual there were no cabs on the ranks after 1pm once the word was out.

"Was it a success? No, as it never improves. The public are getting into death traps."


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:53 pm 
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6 vehicles in 6 hours. what a waste of time and funds. Why don't they simply require certain vehicle to be inspected on a random basis at an appointed time. they can inspect a vehicle up to 3 times a year.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:26 pm 
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6 vehicles in 6 hours. what a waste of time and funds. Why don't they simply require certain vehicle to be inspected on a random basis at an appointed time. they can inspect a vehicle up to 3 times a year.

I couldn't agree more.

One hour per test, that longer than a full MOT.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:06 pm 
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As soon as they came out the drivers went home. These vehicles are owned by drivers who have scant regard to public safety.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:46 pm 
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Nidge2 wrote:
As soon as they came out the drivers went home. These vehicles are owned by drivers who have scant regard to public safety.

We know that, that is why I would advocate an appointment system. If you don't show up for the appointment then you license is suspended.
If these checks are all about safe vehicles it would also give the owner the opportunity to fix any defects before the appointment.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:47 am 
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grandad wrote:
Nidge2 wrote:
As soon as they came out the drivers went home. These vehicles are owned by drivers who have scant regard to public safety.

We know that, that is why I would advocate an appointment system. If you don't show up for the appointment then you license is suspended.
If these checks are all about safe vehicles it would also give the owner the opportunity to fix any defects before the appointment.


There shouldn't be an appointment system, the vehicles should be bang on the money 365 days of the year. I will go out on a limb and say if, "I got pulled up I would pass" because, my motor gets looked after.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:51 am 
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Nidge2 wrote:

There shouldn't be an appointment system, the vehicles should be bang on the money 365 days of the year. I will go out on a limb and say if, "I got pulled up I would pass" because, my motor gets looked after.

So how would you inspect the cars that dissapear as soon as a random inspection is seen?

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grandad wrote:
So how would you inspect the cars that dissapear as soon as a random inspection is seen?

I think Nigel is suggesting that vehicles are, for want of a better expression, randomly summonsed to appear at a certain place at a certain time to be checked.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:35 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
grandad wrote:
So how would you inspect the cars that dissapear as soon as a random inspection is seen?

I think Nigel is suggesting that vehicles are, for want of a better expression, randomly summonsed to appear at a certain place at a certain time to be checked.

I think you will find that it is me who is suggesting this. Nigel is against it.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:41 am 
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Ok.

But whoever is in favour of whatever, I'm in favour of randomly targeted checks.

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