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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 12:49 pm 
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Tell me, why don't the green badge holders have to know the suburban areas in intimate detail to get their badge?


Thats a bit like asking, why do Edinburgh not have to know Dalkeith intimatley in case they take a job there?

Quite simply you don't work from there, on the occasions you do go there, the suburban part of the Knowledge is deemed sufficient for you to get a customer there via a good route, but 90% of my work is still in and around 8 mioes of central London.

Thats why we have Sububan Taxi drivers to cover the work in these areas.

Some 'all London' drivers may choose to work a Suburban area that they have a good knowledge of, but thats few.


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So because people don't start the Knowledge until they are in their 30's that makes it the Dark ages.

I'm not sure that's what the report or I said, but any trade that has more people over 70 working in it than people under 30, points in the dark direction. :wink:

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Thats a bit like me saying Eastbourne is predominantly made up of people over 65, so it must be in the dark ages? :?

You cannot sign onto the Knowledge until you have turned 21, so I'm not surprised we have an older age of driver.

Tell me how that detracts from the level of service offered or indeed the driver numbers which continue at over 25,000?

I agree with your first sentence. :wink:

As for your second and third sentences. I think the KOL is now open to 18 year old people. I also think the older the people are in the trade, the less they respond to change. And you also end up being led by the near dead.

Which perhaps explains why everything seems to be going the way the LPH want, and not the way the London cab trade want. :-$

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greenbadgecabby wrote:
One gets a strong smell of provincial jealousy appearing in this thread. :wink:

Well not from me, I couldn't care less if you earn't ten grand a week. :shock:

But from afar it's seems crystal clear to me that the capital's cab trade has many hurdles ahead to keep what they have, let alone increase it.

And I'm not that sure they have anyone in a position of leadership up to the challenge. [-(

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I agree with your first sentence. :wink:



Ditto. :wink:


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Sussex wrote:
Well not from me, I couldn't care less if you earn't ten grand a week. :shock:

But from afar it's seems crystal clear to me that the capital's cab trade has many hurdles ahead to keep what they have, let alone increase it.

And I'm not that sure they have anyone in a position of leadership up to the challenge. [-(



As I've said before Sussex, i've heard all of the above many, many times before, by the great reformists during the early nineties, we will survive the latest attack and carry on as normal.

As for the leadership issue you mention, with the lefty 'leadership' that lives in City Hall, we will have no worries about ours.


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Sussex wrote:
Which perhaps explains why everything seems to be going the way the LPH want, and not the way the London cab trade want. :-$



I would suspect the last thing the PH companys would want is more of their drivers leaving, they struggle with staff retetion at the moment, never mind with another 2000 defectors.

I work in the London trade, so I have a pretty good grasp of whats happening, and I'm more than happy with what I see.

Are you happy with what you see in your town?


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Are you happy with what you see in your town?

Oh yes. Could do with a few less vested interests in the council and a few less idiots driving cabs, but apart from that everything is just fine and dandy. :D

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Sussex wrote:
I think the part of the report that does point to the dark ages is;

Many organisations believe that these problems are leading to an ageing and declining licensed taxi driver population. Indeed, 98% of licensed taxi drivers are over 30, and there are more drivers aged over 70 than there are aged under 30.


How many people under 30 anywhere want to drive a Taxi/PH?. Under 25's are penalised by the insurance companies, and lets face it, under 30's want to be out on the town on a saturday night, and not driving a taxi!
It is, de facto, an older persons game.


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I would suspect the last thing the PH companys would want is more of their drivers leaving, they struggle with staff retetion at the moment, never mind with another 2000 defectors.

Why would they need to defect? The black cab circuits are giving us plenty of work. :D

If only the LTDA knew the whole truth about all that work we get from Com-Cab. :-$

Still as they only own 20% of it, why should they care?

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Why would they need to defect? The black cab circuits are giving us plenty of work. :D

If only the LTDA knew the whole truth about all that work we get from Com-Cab. :-$

Still as they only own 20% of it, why should they care?

Ollie



Better ask your friend John Griffen, he seems to have a big problem.

As for the ComCab circuit, I guess they need someone for the local trips that does'nt involve the carriage of single females.

I guess your colleague Mr Al-Shaz-Rapeu can manage that.


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How many people under 30 anywhere want to drive a Taxi/PH?. Under 25's are penalised by the insurance companies, and lets face it, under 30's want to be out on the town on a saturday night, and not driving a taxi!
It is, de facto, an older persons game.

I'm not so sure that's true.

In my manor the % of under 30's owning PHs is considerably higher than the % of under 30's owning taxis. Quite why I'm not sure, but maybe the idea of paying up to £50,000 for a plate is a slight turn off.

Thus maybe the youth of today are brighter than I thought. :wink:

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greenbadgecabby wrote:
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I know there are good reasons to keep the KOL, but if designing it from scratch I don't think I would make it quite as rigorous as it is now.



Luckily you won't either.


Don't you mean can't? :lol:

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TDO wrote:
Tell me, why don't the green badge holders have to know the suburban areas in intimate detail to get their badge?


Thats a bit like asking, why do Edinburgh not have to know Dalkeith intimatley in case they take a job there?

Quite simply you don't work from there, on the occasions you do go there, the suburban part of the Knowledge is deemed sufficient for you to get a customer there via a good route, but 90% of my work is still in and around 8 mioes of central London.

Thats why we have Sububan Taxi drivers to cover the work in these areas.

Some 'all London' drivers may choose to work a Suburban area that they have a good knowledge of, but thats few.



Yes, thanks for that, but my question was kind of rhetorical - ie I was alluding to the the question of disproportionality. ie is it really necessary to know central London as well as is currently required?

That's another rhetorical question, by the way, but feel free to answer it if you want. :wink:

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greenbadgecabby wrote:
I work in the London trade, so I have a pretty good grasp of whats happening, and I'm more than happy with what I see.



But you've got a vested interest, so you would say that, innit :D

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