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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:09 pm 
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And, I mean, this is from the latest article:

Latest article wrote:
TAXIS from outside of Southampton will no longer be able to use bus lanes in the city other than in peak times.

That quite clearly sems to be saying that Eastliegh cars can only use the lanes at rush hours.

Latest article wrote:
Southampton City Council has announced that private hire firms that only have city-licensed vehicles will be able to use bus lanes.

I suspect this is totally wrong in two regards. It's not just private hire firms. And it's nothing to do with 'firms' anyway - the rule will apply to vehicles.

Latest article wrote:
Those who do not fit this criteria are not obligated to abide by its rules on emissions, and so will no longer be able to use the lanes.

This just reads like a jumble of words related to emissions, and is just plain confusing.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:22 pm 
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For what it's worth, first response is over on page 1 of this thread.

Should really go through that stuff again to check for errors, but think I'd lose the will to live, so won't bother :lol:

But to echo what Edders said, in a nutshell:

Yesterday Edders wrote:
diesels Euro 6 only and no Eastleigh PH or Uber in a nutshell

:P

Yesterday the Daily Echo wrote:
TAXIS from outside of Southampton will no longer be able to use bus lanes in the city other than in peak times.

:-k

Yesterday Sussex wrote:
All non Southampton taxi/PH are banned from the bus lanes at the peak times mentioned.

:-s


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:32 pm 
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So you're saying Eastleigh cars are banned from the bus lanes at rush hours?

That's the way it reads to me.
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So basically the earlier proposal was to allow Eastleight cars only to access the lanes at rush hours, and only if they're Euro 6 compliant.

The earlier post was a request from the Eastleigh trade to be able to use the lanes 24/7, supported by some local politicians. Clearly Southampton have refused that request.
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Are you saying that the earlier proposal wasn't actually implemented? If not then I can't see how you can construe the latest piece in the way you do.

The earlier proposal was a request, which was rejected.
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To clarify the latest piece I'm assuming that the earlier proposal is the one that's actually being implemented... #-o

It appears to me the council haven't changed their position since day one.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:33 pm 
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TAXIS from outside of Southampton will no longer be able to use bus lanes in the city other than in peak times.

That bit is rubbish journalism.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:33 pm 
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I can't wait to see the traffic signs with all that information on them and I suppose that they do have the relevant traffic order in place to make it legal? Nottingham fell foul of that one.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:45 pm 
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Please note that I completely ignored the request from the Eastleigh trade to change tack, and just used 'Eastleigh cars' as a proxy for 'non-Southampton HC and PHVs working in Southampton', or similar.

Anyway, if it's assumed that nothing's changed since the initial proposal, and ignoring the fine details, then this from the very top of the thread is what I'm not getting:

Six months ago a journalist wrote:
Taxis and private hire vehicles licensed outside of Southampton could be allowed to access bus lanes in the city only from 7am to 9.30am and from 4am to 6.30pm on weekdays and only if the vehicle was first registered on or after January 2006 if petrol and September 2015 if diesel.


A couple of days ago Sussex wrote:
All non Southampton taxi/PH are banned from the bus lanes at the peak times mentioned.

So the reports are saying that non-Southampton cars will be allowed in the bus lanes at peak times, while you're saying the opposite?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:11 pm 
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So the reports are saying that non-Southampton cars will be allowed in the bus lanes at peak times, while you're saying the opposite?

My brain wasn't working because I assumed the council had a brain that was working. #-o

You are correct. :shock:

However the fact that the council are allowing non local cars in when it's busy in those lanes, but banning them when it will be quiet in those lanes makes no sense at all.

I stupidly assumed the council would want better access for buses/local cabs when it was peak times.

Silly me. #-o

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:55 am 
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It does seem counter-intuitive, but I suppose the argument is that it might ease congestion at the very busiest times.

On the other hand, it might have just been misreported, and the clunky English etc in the latest article is perhaps evidence in that regard.

The first piece stated:

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Taxis and private hire vehicles licensed outside of Southampton could be allowed to access bus lanes in the city only from 7am to 9.30am and from 4am to 6.30pm on weekdays and only if the vehicle was first registered on or after January 2006 if petrol and September 2015 if diesel.

The second piece repeated the 4am error (which presumably should read 4pm), suggesting that it was just copied and pasted from the first piece. So if the original author got it the wrong way round, then the second piece would just repeat the error.

And the latest piece, er, lacks clarity.

Tried to find an official press release or similar to see if that might clarify things, but there's no sign of anything on the council's website or elsewhere.

Anyway, the fine details are maybe of less importance than the broader principle, which is that non-local vehicles will be restricted from accessing Southampton bus lanes, and which at least seems clear enough.


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Tried to find an official press release or similar to see if that might clarify things, but there's no sign of anything on the council's website or elsewhere.

Tried searching for any info on the committee website, but nothing seems to be going to committee. :-k

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