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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:01 pm 
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Plans to prevent taxis from refusing disabled passengers clear Commons

A Bill which would prevent taxi drivers from refusing disabled passengers has cleared the Commons.

The Taxis and Private Hire Vehicles (Disabled Persons) Bill proposes to address inconsistencies in the Equality Act to ensure all disabled people are afforded protection from discrimination.

Opening the third reading debate, Conservative former attorney general Jeremy Wright highlighted the loophole in the current legislation.

He claimed that as it stands, only wheelchair and assistance dog users have specific rights and protections under the Equality Act in relation to taxis and private vehicles.

The MP for Kenilworth and Southam said: “The Taxis and Private Hire Vehicles sections of the Equality Act do not work well enough for all of the 13.7 million disabled people in Great Britain.

“The fundamental intention of this Bill is to ensure that the protections envisaged by the Equality Act of 2010 work effectively and comprehensively when a disabled person uses a taxi or a private hire vehicle, so that any disabled person has reasonable rights and protections to book, to access and travel in a taxi or private hire vehicle at no additional charge.”

The former minister added: “As it stands, only wheelchair and assistance dog users have specific rights and protections under the Equality Act in relation to taxis and private vehicles.

“The existing Equality Act Taxi and Private Hire Vehicle measures do not, for example, provide clearly expressed rights for a wheelchair user intending to transfer from their wheelchair into the passenger seat of a non-designated taxi or private hire vehicle.

“They do not provide a visually-impaired person with a right to guaranteed assistance to find and locate a booked private hire vehicle and the current measures failed to sufficiently protect disabled people who do not use wheelchairs or assistance dogs from discriminatory treatment at all.”

The Bill, given an unopposed third reading in the Commons, would also include fines to punish drivers who disobeyed the measures, similar to those in existing law.

Mr Wright told MPs the measures would “create new duties for private hire vehicle operators at section 167a of the Equality Act by creating offences for refusing or failing to accept a booking from a disabled person”.

However, he stressed that “where a driver has a genuine reason why they could not fulfil the duties specified in this Bill, then the defences provided would be adequate to avoid them being penalised unfairly”.

Shadow transport minister Gill Furniss confirmed Labour’s support for the Bill, saying: “The barriers that disabled people continue to face in transport are downright scandalous.”

She added: “Labour would implement much-needed reforms to taxi and private hire services.

“This includes a review of licensing authorities’ jurisdictions, setting national minimum standards for safety and accessibility, and updating regulations to keep pace with technological change.”

Too often I have had a taxi turn up to pick me up as a mother with a pram and two children, and they have seen that I’m a mum with two children, and I have seen taxis turn and run, and refuse to take me as a mother

Conservative MP Alicia Kearns welcomed the proposals but suggested further changes to the Equality Act, as she told MPs how taxis have in the past refused to take her because she is a mother with children.

She said: “Too often we have pockets of our society where there is not true equality, where there is not true access, and this Bill will fundamentally change that.

“While some people may think this is just a small change, for my disabled constituents and beyond, this will make an enormous, life-changing difference.”

She added: “Too often I have had a taxi turn up to pick me up as a mother with a pram and two children, and they have seen that I’m a mum with two children – and I’d like to think it’s because of the children, not because they’ve seen my face – but I have seen taxis turn and run, and refuse to take me as a mother.”

She said it was a “small minority” of taxi drivers but added: “The fact that they are happy to turn around and leave a mother in the rain with two small children under three, I mean it’s happened at least four or five times in my lifetime and my children are only three now. So, this is something that perhaps we could look at for future revisions to the Equality Act.”

Transport minister Wendy Morton said: “The Government fully supports this Bill today, not only would it level the playing field for the services which drivers provide to disabled people, but it will also be a direct contribution to delivering a fully inclusive transport network.

“I recognise that the Bill will not overcome all the barriers that disabled passengers face when using taxis and private hire vehicles,” she said.

She added: “The Government will continue to encourage local authorities to require drivers to complete disability awareness training, and we’ve committed, as soon a legislative time allows, to require taxi and private hire vehicle drivers to complete disability awareness training through new national minimum standards.”

The Taxis and Private Hire Vehicles (Disabled Persons) Bill will now undergo further scrutiny in the House of Lords.

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Conservative MP Alicia Kearns welcomed the proposals but suggested further changes to the Equality Act, as she told MPs how taxis have in the past refused to take her because she is a mother with children.

Yeah right. :---)

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Conservative MP Alicia Kearns welcomed the proposals but suggested further changes to the Equality Act, as she told MPs how taxis have in the past refused to take her because she is a mother with children.

Yeah right. :---)


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Conservative MP Alicia Kearns welcomed the proposals but suggested further changes to the Equality Act, as she told MPs how taxis have in the past refused to take her because she is a mother with children.

Yeah right. :---)



oh look it's Pete's mate

she must appear at least once a month in the local rag she does seem to like publicity and any issue will do

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Can't see it working with PH which are pre booked so how would you know on what grounds you were refused a pickup!!.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:39 pm 
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edders23 wrote:
Sussex wrote:
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Conservative MP Alicia Kearns welcomed the proposals but suggested further changes to the Equality Act, as she told MPs how taxis have in the past refused to take her because she is a mother with children.

Yeah right. :---)



oh look it's Pete's mate

she must appear at least once a month in the local rag she does seem to like publicity and any issue will do


Depends on how well behaved the Kids looked..


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bloodnock wrote:
edders23 wrote:
Sussex wrote:
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Conservative MP Alicia Kearns welcomed the proposals but suggested further changes to the Equality Act, as she told MPs how taxis have in the past refused to take her because she is a mother with children.

Yeah right. :---)



oh look it's Pete's mate

she must appear at least once a month in the local rag she does seem to like publicity and any issue will do


Depends on how well behaved the Kids looked..

A bit strange this one. I have never heard of a mother with children being refused. FFS if we did refuse mothers and children that would be a big chunk of work gone.
Next time I talk to Alicia i will ask her where these refusals take place. She lives in Rutland so is more likely to use an Oakham company than a Melton Company. But it could equally be that it is when she is in London. She has never phoned our company for a car yet. maybe I should give her a call.

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Can't see it working with PH which are pre booked so how would you know on what grounds you were refused a pickup!!.

Might be difficult from the office, but if the driver turns up and drives off then that would be a lot easier to deal with.

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Would this mean mandatory mixed fleets to accomodate all disabilities? That can only be a good thing.


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Good except for those who draw the short straws 8-[


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Would this mean mandatory mixed fleets to accomodate all disabilities? That can only be a good thing.

Not sure any law could mandate mixed fleets, but reasonable adjustments could/should be made to accommodate any disability.

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Sussex wrote:
Not sure any law could mandate mixed fleets, but reasonable adjustments could/should be made to accommodate any disability.

No way is it enforceable.
If Drivers in WAV don't want to take a Wheelchair they just put themselves as unavailable. If they are shown to be "Logged In" they can just say they had a puncture, door lock not working, engine management light, the list is endless. Of course when it's fixed, the potential passenger has gone elsewhere. Bit difficult to "Prove" the availability or non-availability after the event as - wheel changed and puncture repaired, door adjusted, error codes cleared etc.
The only place a Law like this is enforceable is, as always, at a Rank.
I am someone who specialises in wheelchair work and I can see the solution has not, and will not, be found.

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